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23 hours ago, Chryptyk said:

I don't know how it happened, but the other day i was in a hypergate and the other team had 2 healers and really good dps.  my team had none.  i know not all 8 of them were queuing together, but most of them had to be if they got 2 healers and we got none.  we barely got any kills and basically just got farmed.  So i decided to take a break to try to get out of queue sync with them.  a lot of people do the same thing when they know premades are around.  it kills the queue.

nobody has fun getting farmed.  large premades are quite ridiculous.  matches should be somewhat even.  5m+ premades should be disallowed, and it should be shrunk back to 4m at least, and give premades their own queue.  that would make the matches more even for them.

the queue supposedly should give us even matches, but that just isn't the case when premades are around.  when they are around, the system just puts randoms together to force the queue to pop.  quality matches would be more fun than forcing a match to happen, just to make it happen.

I feel you. Was playing solo the past weekend from Friday to Monday. Came across very few big premades. Yesterday I got against one on my sorc. It hurt mainly because we had no supporting classes on our team. I swapped to my full mit vanguard tank and the next match I got in we got two healers and me. The 6/7 man premade still cooked. Did tons of dmg but with some support classes in the match we were able to cap the eastern and western node on Yavin and hold them off. We won the match, and it was one of the more fun matches I had all weekend. Sometimes you have to switch up your tactics to win a match. Part of it was luck but part of it was also getting the right comp against a premade team and we competed admirably just a bunch of pugs. 

The most boring games I got all weekend were the all solo matches where half the ppl couldt defend themselves cuz they didn't know how to us dcds. And most of the solo only matches are mostly dps cuz there's very few ppl that are willing to queue heals solo knowing that their team is gonna be a bunch of bots who don't use dcds and peel for heals. 

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On 12/31/2022 at 10:42 PM, VegaMist said:

I think if they limited premades to half-the-group max (meaning max 2 in 4vs4, and max 4 in 8vs8), it would solve most of the issues. (Premade of 4 in 8vs8 used to be the max pre-7.2 and it worked fine).

doesn't work. I've been online and playing for most of today. around 10 or so hours.

I que Solo. every time i que, reguardless of the spec I choose. or the Toon. it has put me against the same two Pre-mades. one team is 6 ranged and 2 melee. and the other team is 4 melee and 4 ranged.  

all Sorcs, Juggs, Maras, and Sins. with a Merc Healer. 

i'm a Causal Player. my guild is mostly gone. and i dislike the Jumbo Guilds. for my own Reasons. weekdays i'm limited to prime time. so i accept that i will be steamrolled if I que with a Friend or by myself. but today is BullHockey.. 4 different toons. over 30 matches. in the last two hours i finally snapped. I started leaving matches. and then waiting 35-40 mins to reque. and it still puts me against the same team.

No Pre-made. 2+ should be put against a Normal Solo Que Team. Ever.

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just tossing this out there fwiw: if the pvp seasons stuff is important to you, just farm mids. at least on SF, the pops are quick and there's nary a premade. those that are there don't have much if any affect on the game. most players are in their 70s though. so just run a few toons up to 70 and farm mids for 10 levels. it's ridiculously easy. that's on SF. can't speak for the experience on other servers.

honestly, I'm amazed that you can do this seasons stuff below level 80. 😄

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6 hours ago, krackcommando said:

just tossing this out there fwiw: if the pvp seasons stuff is important to you, just farm mids. at least on SF, the pops are quick and there's nary a premade. those that are there don't have much if any affect on the game. most players are in their 70s though. so just run a few toons up to 70 and farm mids for 10 levels. it's ridiculously easy. that's on SF. can't speak for the experience on other servers.

honestly, I'm amazed that you can do this seasons stuff below level 80. 😄

There are still premades. I think you were lucky you didn’t encounter them. 

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On 2/21/2023 at 9:09 PM, AwesomeTacoCat said:

Please don’t misrepresent my post by quoting the first half and then not quoting the second half where I specifically acknowledge that the set of people on the forums may not be a representative sample. 
 

Moreover, it’s not necessarily clear that there would be an over-representation of people who dislike the current pvp system on the forums. It’s why we need some sort of poll. 

hey kat, its mak!! Remember when we would group up and destroy everyone!! Those were good times lol.

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Lol, it's honestly funny that I checked in after months (years??) and see this is still on the front page. Good to see that some things never change. Keep fighting the good fight trixxie!!! I'm sure that one day, probably the day before BW shuts down the game, they might give out that survey you wanted to the 20 people who actually care lol.

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No skill left in the game its just gear vs gear like a korean mmo kekw. P2w buy gold augments then group up in premade to roll people with no gear so much counterplay so much skill kekw. Swtor is full p2w in pvp might aswell start selling the swtor token like wow so its easier to buy gold for gear. So leet kekw

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10 hours ago, Skummy said:

No skill left in the game its just gear vs gear like a korean mmo kekw. P2w buy gold augments then group up in premade to roll people with no gear so much counterplay so much skill kekw. Swtor is full p2w in pvp might aswell start selling the swtor token like wow so its easier to buy gold for gear. So leet kekw

I've never paid real money for a gold aug. In fact I've crafted you a complete set they are just sitting in my bank waiting for u to come back to the game bbg 😘😘♥️♥️

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You know what's cool. The Devs have already solved this problem by putting in the battle record. The harsh truth is that people that are complaining are not good at PVP. Its a simple fact. As you can see in the below screen shot if somehow your not winning more then loosing its all on you. You are the one common player in each pvp map you play. I only que solo and a 66% winrate with a class that is considered bottom tier is proof  enough. Also some of those games I trolled in cause that's just a thing I do for fun.

 

I'll say it again, the really top end PVP players have spent more time parsing, researching, learning than you have. I have probably more time parsing than most of the people on here have in actual PVP. Sometimes you just have to accept that your not playing correctly and change it or keep the same status quo.

 

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56 minutes ago, TmoneyTime said:

You know what's cool. The Devs have already solved this problem by putting in the battle record. The harsh truth is that people that are complaining are not good at PVP. Its a simple fact. As you can see in the below screen shot if somehow your not winning more then loosing its all on you. You are the one common player in each pvp map you play. I only que solo and a 66% winrate with a class that is considered bottom tier is proof  enough. Also some of those games I trolled in cause that's just a thing I do for fun.

 

I'll say it again, the really top end PVP players have spent more time parsing, researching, learning than you have. I have probably more time parsing than most of the people on here have in actual PVP. Sometimes you just have to accept that your not playing correctly and change it or keep the same status quo.

 

https://imgur.com/a/yXyV6Ac

That has to be the worst low rez pic I’ve ever seen linked on this forum. Can’t even zoom in to see the numbers 😂

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Just now, TmoneyTime said:

You know what's cool. The Devs have already solved this problem by putting in the battle record. The harsh truth

You may be good so that you can carry a bunch of bad-to-average randoms most of the time with your awesome skills (which is doubtful, since you are not even a full-stealth class). Or you may be just lucky to not meet good premades very often. Heck, with enough luck you can be always at 8th spot of 7-man premade :w_eek:

 

And RNG can be really harsh at times - for example i have most of my chars in 55-60% range and one dps in 20%. In no way in the world i am this bad with said chararacter. Also i bet that 7-8 man premades, as a team, have way more than 66%, i would say 85-90% win rate.

 

But anyway - i will just paraphrase some popular quote - if you don't see the problem then you are part of the problem. :rak_09:

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1 hour ago, TmoneyTime said:

You know what's cool. The Devs have already solved this problem by putting in the battle record. The harsh truth is that people that are complaining are not good at PVP. Its a simple fact. As you can see in the below screen shot if somehow your not winning more then loosing its all on you. You are the one common player in each pvp map you play. I only que solo and a 66% winrate with a class that is considered bottom tier is proof  enough. Also some of those games I trolled in cause that's just a thing I do for fun.

 

I'll say it again, the really top end PVP players have spent more time parsing, researching, learning than you have. I have probably more time parsing than most of the people on here have in actual PVP. Sometimes you just have to accept that your not playing correctly and change it or keep the same status quo.

 

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This guy is speaking the truth. Listen casuals u might not like to hear it but it's the truth. When u enter a wz ur willingly entering into a place where ppl who take the pvp mode of the game more seriously than you. In fact many times its the only reason many of us log on to play. 

I've related this anecdote before but here goes again. When I started playing swtor at launch I'd never played a trinity style mmo. My irl friends were all wow vets. We made a pvp guild. It's all we did, and when I started I was the biggest noob ever. They taught me how to play, use dcds, taunt, counter other classes, los, ect. I became a much better player by learning from players who knew what they were doing. 

The choice is yours. If you are struggling with premades reach out to a group of pvpers who know how to play. They can teach you a lot IF YOU ARE WILLING TO LEARN. But first you have to humble yourself. Maybe you still have some things to learn especially if ur a casual player who doesn't concentrate on pvp. I rely on friends to this day to tell me what talents to pick/tactical to use on classes that I'm not all that familiar with. And I'm always willing to help players who want to improve on the classes where I know what I'm doing. Reach out, most premade/former ranked ppl are just ppl like you and me most aren't jerks, contrary to popular opinion. 

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My $0.02...

 

I am an Elite Warlord title-holder. I got it the day before pvp changed.

In the old pvp system, premades were not nearly as bad an issue as they are now.

The new system makes premades the only viable way to compete now, otherwise you spend hundreds of hours struggling through the pvp season tasks.

You might ask yourself, why does it matter to you what other people are doing?

Well, the answer is simple, what they are doing is interfering with my game-play.

When I queue as a solo pvper, my expectation is to be put into a totally random group of 16 players split into 2 teams randomly.

There definitely should be a group pvp only queue, like ranked used to be. If you had a group, it had to be a premade and you were matched to only other premades. This is what I expect when I get a group together to do pvp, and more-so when it's an 8-player team.

The way things are now, I have pretty much stopped pvping because it is a terrible slogg of loss after loss because one or more premade group(s) is/are dominating the queue. And it doesn't take long to see when the other team is a premade farming the queue.

The problem this causes is that the average player is forced to feed their scores instead of getting to earn your own scores... And no player is going to put up with that garbage long. Pretty soon the pvp queue will be just a bunch of premade groups fighting each other and the fun will slowly disappear as less and less people do pvp over the whole sad state it is in.

If you really want people to participate in pvp seasons, and make it truely a fair and level play-field, there is a number of things that need to happen:

1. Set a group pvp queue separate from solo pvp queue.

2. People who do things to get around the above to form premades in the solo queue should be automatically be kicked out of the wz.

3. Actually fix the damn bolsterizer and make pvp item level 332 capped like you said you would.

4. Bring back pvp-specific gear so that using pve gear in pvp is severely penalized, forcing people to have to earn and use pvp-specific gear for pvp and use their pve gear for pve.

5. And lastly, stop nerfing pve because some bleeding heart pvper is crying about this class or that class over abilities they have... People need to learn how to play properly before they pvp. Simple as that.

 

Overall... The new pvp system caters to groups and ruins the game-play of solos. That can't be allowed to continue because that is not in the spirit of the original design, so changing something so dramatically is not only unfair, but uncalled for. Noone asked to make it so premades can ruin the fun for everyone else that isn't grouping for pvp.

 

It's a shame Bioware will probably ignore the pleas for fairness, but hey, at least in the end, you can choose to save pvp for a better game and just do the pve stuff here.

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39 minutes ago, Samcuu said:

This guy is speaking the truth. Listen casuals u might not like to hear it but it's the truth. When u enter a wz ur willingly entering into a place where ppl who take the pvp mode of the game more seriously than you. In fact many times its the only reason many of us log on to play.

There are levels to it.  S tier players should not be matched against anything lower than A tier.  Grossly imbalanced matches are happening ALL too often, and under a system (8man premades, deserter debuff, unlimited pvp matches regardless of subscription status, gear imbalances due in part to absence of bolster, a dearth of healers for pugs) that panders to a small group of people who take a very casual game entirely too seriously. 

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10 hours ago, TmoneyTime said:

You know what's cool. The Devs have already solved this problem by putting in the battle record. The harsh truth is that people that are complaining are not good at PVP. Its a simple fact. As you can see in the below screen shot if somehow your not winning more then loosing its all on you. You are the one common player in each pvp map you play. I only que solo and a 66% winrate with a class that is considered bottom tier is proof  enough. Also some of those games I trolled in cause that's just a thing I do for fun.

 

I'll say it again, the really top end PVP players have spent more time parsing, researching, learning than you have. I have probably more time parsing than most of the people on here have in actual PVP. Sometimes you just have to accept that your not playing correctly and change it or keep the same status quo.

 

https://imgur.com/a/yXyV6Ac

Yea you right idk what im doing at 70% winrate im just imagining p2w korean elements in an american mmo. kekw https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1020659784174813247/1082823082982527108/Screenshot_2023-03-07_16_29_52_012676.jpg Looking up a youtube videos so much research, taking 11mil dmg every game is normal ive took 20mill b4, But hey you're right a new player will do the same going against a team  stacked with geared players. Good take!👍💪 

 

 

Think the mmo you looking for is bdo.

 

 

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13 hours ago, TmoneyTime said:

You know what's cool. The Devs have already solved this problem by putting in the battle record. The harsh truth is that people that are complaining are not good at PVP. Its a simple fact. As you can see in the below screen shot if somehow your not winning more then loosing its all on you. You are the one common player in each pvp map you play. I only que solo and a 66% winrate with a class that is considered bottom tier is proof  enough. Also some of those games I trolled in cause that's just a thing I do for fun.

 

I'll say it again, the really top end PVP players have spent more time parsing, researching, learning than you have. I have probably more time parsing than most of the people on here have in actual PVP. Sometimes you just have to accept that your not playing correctly and change it or keep the same status quo.

 

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This is a terrible argument. On the toons that I almost exclusively solo que on I also have 60-70% win rate because I can hard carry. But many of my losses are to premades. That’s to say, if I didn’t have to constantly face premades, I’d probably be closer to 80-85%. It’s not fair that I have to play against these premades and for my win share to go down. 
 

I also played about 30 arenas last season in groups of 3-4 and went 30-0. Never lost. And only 1 of those 30 games was remotely interesting, which is why I mostly solo que. 
 

I and the others pleading to have separate ques just want balanced matches. That’s it. And that’s really not too much to ask for…

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Wow shocking. They should probably remove the solo part then, And add a lfg tool like every other mmo. Instead of shouting in general like its 2011. All my friends quit after they removed 8v8 ranked. I should of left too but im dumb. There was actually pvpr's queing 8v8, There was even premade lowbies. Nobody seemed to complain then. But yea wierd a mmo promotes grouping such a wierd concept. Only theirs problems, What happens when the game is ded like it is now. What happens when bolster doesn't work and theirs gearing issues? I used to log in to harbinger and bastion in 2.0 on pub fleet and there were 1000's of ppl doing things at 2am pst now its a ghost town. 

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1 hour ago, Skummy said:

Wow shocking. They should probably remove the solo part then, And add a lfg tool like every other mmo. Instead of shouting in general like its 2011. All my friends quit after they removed 8v8 ranked. I should of left too but im dumb. There was actually pvpr's queing 8v8, There was even premade lowbies. Nobody seemed to complain then. But yea wierd a mmo promotes grouping such a wierd concept. Only theirs problems, What happens when the game is ded like it is now. What happens when bolster doesn't work and theirs gearing issues? I used to log in to harbinger and bastion in 2.0 on pub fleet and there were 1000's of ppl doing things at 2am pst now its a ghost town. 

 

We have lfg tool like every other mmo, it's called group finder. Or activity finder. Not sure which one it's called these days but same thing. It's used by solo players when they want to do group content, but don't want to overcomplicate things. 

 

I remember quitting lowbie pvp because of premades.  The only reason I didn't come to complain here was because lowbies are now worthless anyhow. I used to play it a lot when we got warzone comms to buy gear when we hit max level. That's gone several patches and levels ago. I only did lowbies because I enjoy casual pvp. Once the enjoyment part was taken away with premades on the other side, it was easy to quit pvp completely.  With 7.2 and pvp revamp I was hoping to be able to pvp again, but doesn't seem so.

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4 hours ago, DeannaVoyager said:

I remember quitting lowbie pvp because of premades.  The only reason I didn't come to complain here was because lowbies are now worthless anyhow. I used to play it a lot when we got warzone comms to buy gear when we hit max level. That's gone several patches and levels ago.

😄 lowbie pvp was so broken, and I miss it!

back in the day, before every profession was homogenized, cybertech was the prof that manufactured 3 of the 4 pieces that went into moddable armor, and there was a new "mod/armoring/barrel/enhancement" tier every two levels. I used to discover purple schems in the exact stats I wanted and insert them every two level. it didn't matter who was in the queue.  I was auto attacking ppl to death (hyperbole but you get the point). it was just fun. discovering all kinds of wacky stat distribution schems was fun. and creating armor and mods was useful and unique while level. I miss that. not sure what the problem ppl had with professions or if BW just decided to muck with them, but they were never as fun after 1.x.

 

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46 minutes ago, krackcommando said:

😄 lowbie pvp was so broken, and I miss it!

back in the day, before every profession was homogenized, cybertech was the prof that manufactured 3 of the 4 pieces that went into moddable armor, and there was a new "mod/armoring/barrel/enhancement" tier every two levels. I used to discover purple schems in the exact stats I wanted and insert them every two level. it didn't matter who was in the queue.  I was auto attacking ppl to death (hyperbole but you get the point). it was just fun. discovering all kinds of wacky stat distribution schems was fun. and creating armor and mods was useful and unique while level. I miss that. not sure what the problem ppl had with professions or if BW just decided to muck with them, but they were never as fun after 1.x.

 

Yep, and I made hundreds of millions with some old crafted mods in 6.x because those mods had absorb as tertiary stat. Most ops were scaled to 70, and stats were capped with them so you could afford weird mods with more stats. I also used to craft myself lowbie gear when I played pvp, although not every two levels. Those were the good old days.

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yep they need to filter group ques to fight other group ques. if you que as a group you should be matched against another group que no matter how long or even if you get a match. Only let solo Ques fight against other solo ques. But lets be honest boiware don't really care!!!

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     I apologize in advance for the lengthy post. I do not post very often at all, though I do read these posts a lot.

 

     If you remember, Open world PVP was a thing on servers, like Jung Ma, which was a RP/PvP server. This was before Bioware made PvP it's own instance that you have to CHOOSE. Before that, Open world PvP slowly over the years became a breeding ground for Bullying and Harassment. Thank Gawd Bioware put an end to that. For that, I thank Bioware immensely. But now we have a new breeding ground for Bullying and Harassment -- Premades that que for regular WZs knowing (9 out 10 times) they will get a Pug enemy team.  They know this and their intentions is to bully and humiliate the Pug team. There's this que for "Issue Challenge" which is exclusively for Premades of various sizes. However, this feature for the most part goes ignored (dust and cobwebs are on this que button). This Issue Challenge que is a FAIR fight, and players do not want a FAIR fight. Players seem to want the unfair advantage, so they que regular WZs. Sadly this Premade invasion of regular WZs becomes a Bullying and Harassment FEST. Sure, the Premade is having fun, laughing at players on the Pug side, capping all the nodes, and camping the spawn zone. Meanwhile, the Pug team is feeling bullied, harassed, humiliated, helpless, frustrated, VICTIMIZED, upset and angry. When these solo quers encounter too many Premades, it makes them feel a sense of futility to continue doing WZs. Why should one group of players get to enjoy WZs and another not? Not everyone has the time to become elite, and super skilled, and competitive. I have heard the cracker jack excuses from the hard core players, like, L2P, get better, or make friends. They justify their bullying by giving out such cracker jack excuses. Not everyone plays the game 24/7, most players have lives, families, jobs. They log in to have a little fun on their free time. To get Bullied in a WZ by a Premade isn't fun and only makes a person simply log out. Who the hell wants to bullied in a video game? It's supposed to fun. When I have played WZs where it's a Pug v Pug, the match is super fun. Sometimes it's so close that when either side wins, everyone is walking away feeling good. The Issue Challenge que is ignored because folks actually want to humiliate a Pug team with a Premade. I have to assume that's why they que regular WZs -- to Bully. It's a perfect way to Bully and/or take out anger on innocent players. Premades vs. Pugs have become the new Open World PvP Bullying breeding grounds.   

It's just more Bullying. 

Make a Solo Que only que please.

 

     The other thing I wanted to address is personal bullying and harassment of a player in a WZ. I am not talking about healers cause they expect to be focus targeted and harrased, it comes with the job. I am talking about a dps player being bullied and harrased. Whether it's random choice or because maybe you melted them down when they were being dps'd by another player and got butthurt, there's some players who spend the whole WZ on ONE player, harassing them and bullying them. Killing them over and over and over again throughout the WZ, usually on a Stealth class who has lots of CCs. Sometimes a Tag team of stealths  bully and harass one player for the whole WZ. The chat box proves they are, when all you see is that person defeating you and no one else, or the tag team's names. I have become a victim of that on occasion. These players will not leave you alone, the follow you wherever you go, wait for you at the respawn point, and even if you try to hide, the find you, all the way to the edges of the map where no objectives are even close by. Why do they they do this to a player? Why Bully like this? I have no idea other than this person is a jerk. This behavior is unacceptable. They know they can get away with Bullying cause it's PvP, you know, and you are supposed to kill players. They hide behind the guise of PvP to bully and harass players. That was the same excuse they use in Open World PvP when they'd hide in stealth waiting for players doing dailies to enter into their web. It's PvP they'd say. It made Bullying legal. I think there should be an easier way to report these toxic bullying players. Maybe a drop down on their portrait, ->report harassment and a reason box, and a copy of the chat box progress for the whole WZ copied and sent to Bioware. Thank gawd there's only a handful of these jerks. On a side note, I brought this up because I was in a Void Star WZ the other day, and I saw this Merc who was being attacked constantly by this stealth tag team and I saw this poor Merc keep saying in Say Chat, "Stop Harrassing me." I whispered her later and she said that this tag team wouldn't stop, they followed her everywhere, ignoring the doors and other players. I watched them even follow her in stealth all the way back to window (waaaaay back from the doors) where she was trying to cut a break and they killed her there too. She was being bullied for sure and I felt bad for her. She did leave the WZ, of course. Who wouldn't? She said she didn't know these bullies and that she had no idea why they were picking on her. It's not the first time. It has happened to me too on occasion. This toxic behavior probably stems from Premades who get away with bullying Pugs, so why not take the toxicity to a higher level, cause you know, it's PvP, right. Just make it easier to report these players for this toxic behavior of bullying one player only thru the entire WZ. I play a Madness /Lighting  Sorc, and I know what it's like to get picked on. There has to be penalties for this kind of bullying. It has to stop.

 

     The PvP weekly has as a reward,  2000 Tech Fragments, and 3 Legendary Embers and other stuff. The PvP Daily has 300 Tech Fragments, 1 Legendary Ember. You get to do the weekly 3 times and the daily 7 times. So, that's 6000 Tech Frags, 9 Embers for all 3 weeklies combined. 2,100 Tech Frags, 7 Embers if you do the daily for the entire week. Grand total - 8,100 Tech Frags, 16 Embers. You do these missions on multiple toons and you rack up a fortune of Tech Frags and Embers. My question is why don't Flashpoints weeklies offer these kinds of Tech Frag and Ember rewards? You do all the Flashpoint weeklies along with Tech Frags from bosses, and you don't even come close to these numbers. Plus, no embers for doing FP weeklies. One of the major reasons I started to PvP again 4 months ago, was the EASY way to get Tech Frags and Embers. I like PvE but doing FP's and OPs isn't getting me the EASY Tech Frags and embers like PvP does. So, I pick weeks to grind for Tech Frags and Embers. You need lots of tech frags and embers to make Augments, esp. Gold Augments. Gold Augments are king for PvE. If you wanna do hard mode Operations, you need gold augs. Perhaps you should offer players weeklies for Flashpoints that offer 2000 Tech Frags, and 3 Legendary embers per weekly.  That would be great! I wouldn't feel such a need to grind WZs. Yes, I do have fun in WZs, but with all these Premades, I'd rather do FPs with the same rewards. That way, I can just do WZs for the PvP season and have a little fun instead of just grinding multiple toons for tech frags and embers. Thank You. 

 

     Target markers. I hear in chat, "Mark the healers! It helps a lot. However, players abuse these markers and put them on dps for revenge cause maybe you melted them down. They do that to me because I am a madness Sorc and they get mad cause I melt them down. They put a marker on me and I get ganged up on. This abuse happens more often than you think. I have an idea. How about you pre-mark toons with either a floating icon (above class symbol) or glowing circle (under the feet) according to their choice of healer, dps or tank. Blue, orange, and green colors for the floating icon or glowing circle. This way everyone already knows who's healing, dpsing, or tanking. No need to mark anyone anymore. 

 

     Emotes. It makes me feel good and warm inside when a player blows me a /kiss, or /hug me or even /thank you when I come their aide in a WZ. Lots of positive emotes. However, in a WZ, the ones that are toxic are /laugh when you kill an opponent, or /spit at an opponent when you get mad, and other negative emotes. These negative emotes need to be taken off the list in WZs, blocked. If a Cathar cannot use her species special growl ability in a WZ, why allow negative emotes. Leave the positive ones unblocked. Take more toxicity out of PvP. Thx.

 

     Please, Bioware, MAKE A SOLO ONLY QUE. END THE BULLYING AND HARASSMENT PLEASE!

 

Okay, I said my peace. 

 

It's just more Bullying!

 

 

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