Superman_AZ Posted May 13, 2014 Author Share Posted May 13, 2014 Now that that's cleared up...I am very much in favor of being able to reset your class quest to start it over. I would be in favor of that. We could even call it an AC swap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman_AZ Posted May 13, 2014 Author Share Posted May 13, 2014 well its alot more complicated than that. for instance companions, they are tied to your char story, so how would they transfer? Would they just magically change to imp side versions? The other issue is your class, say you are a Commando and swap to Imperial. Do you suddenly become a Merc (with two blasters instead of an assault cannon)? Ship would be your other issue since those are also faction specific. There is just too much tied to faction, class, gender, and story to just simply state (let us change _____ ) and ignore impacts/consequences. I'm just happy Eric was nice enough to stop by and give us a more clear direction as to why it is extremely unlikely. Who knows? 10 years from now, things may be less complicated and it becomes more of a possibility. But for now, I have my answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUXs Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 I would be in favor of that. We could even call it an AC swap AC has nothing to do with it though, I simply believe that allowing people to reply the biggest draw to this game would be a great move. Class story is broken up over a couple months 1-55. Allowing me to reply it with no distractions would be a draw for me since I skipped over everything I could while leveling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasen Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 AC has nothing to do with it though, I simply believe that allowing people to reply the biggest draw to this game would be a great move. Class story is broken up over a couple months 1-55. Allowing me to reply it with no distractions would be a draw for me since I skipped over everything I could while leveling. I think having the option to replay your class story would be brilliant! Maybe selecting a quest terminal in your stronghold allows you to relive your 'glory years'. Get to play through the class story from start to finish as much as you want, but as for how the game treats you it'll still be based off your first playthrough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillionsKNives Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 AC has nothing to do with it though, I simply believe that allowing people to reply the biggest draw to this game would be a great move. Class story is broken up over a couple months 1-55. Allowing me to reply it with no distractions would be a draw for me since I skipped over everything I could while leveling. Even better would be to also have the options to replay your class quests as a movie (with or without requiring you to actually do the full mission again) with the same dialog options that you already picked. Instead of the convo wheel it just plays straight through (you know, like a normal conversation). It's been about two and a half years now since I've done some of my quests, and with all of the side quests that served as distractions, I've forgotten a lot of the stories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUXs Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 I think having the option to replay your class story would be brilliant! Maybe selecting a quest terminal in your stronghold allows you to relive your 'glory years'. Get to play through the class story from start to finish as much as you want, but as for how the game treats you it'll still be based off your first playthrough. Exactly!!! No "resets" on what you've done, just the ability to blow threw it again to enjoy the story. And for companion conflicts, that could be handled by either locking out the conflicting companion or ignoring what companion you have altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman_AZ Posted May 13, 2014 Author Share Posted May 13, 2014 AC has nothing to do with it though, I simply believe that allowing people to reply the biggest draw to this game would be a great move. Class story is broken up over a couple months 1-55. Allowing me to reply it with no distractions would be a draw for me since I skipped over everything I could while leveling. Agreed. I would enjoy the idea of replaying just the class items at 55/60. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icebergy Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Hey folks, This is a good question! We have been asked this a few times at some of our Cantina Tours as well but I wanted to make sure we had the answer here in the forums for folks to be able to find it. I am remiss to ever say the word never, but I can say that it is very, very unlikely that we would ever implement any type of Faction change. As some others have alluded to in this thread, a very many things are tied into your characters Faction, and the choices they have made throughout their story. Due to that, having your faction change has a lot of impact on many things, not only from a story sense, but also technically involving your character. Because of that, it is very unlikely we will ever implement Faction change. -eric Good to hear. This is one of the few things I am very strongly against. Now if you could strike down the class change threads as well that would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman_AZ Posted May 13, 2014 Author Share Posted May 13, 2014 Good to hear. This is one of the few things I am very strongly against. Now if you could strike down the class change threads as well that would be great. Interesting and harsh choice in words. Maybe Let down, or Ease down, or break it to, might be better fitting. No one likes to hear No, but when done with tact, it is more easily received. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andryah Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 when done with tact, it is more easily received. I found this to be an extremely ironic statement, coming from you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infernixx Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 There's too much animosity in this thread. Some of you are at 11. We need you at about a 3. Can you do a 3 for us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman_AZ Posted May 13, 2014 Author Share Posted May 13, 2014 I found this to be an extremely ironic statement, coming from you. I am tactful when it comes to those who show respect, they get said respect in return. However, I am under no obligation to show tact to those who seldom exhibit it either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman_AZ Posted May 13, 2014 Author Share Posted May 13, 2014 There's too much animosity in this thread. Some of you are at 11. We need you at about a 3. Can you do a 3 for us? I'd settle for a 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrikePrice Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Just make everything bound to legacy. Problem solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman_AZ Posted May 13, 2014 Author Share Posted May 13, 2014 Just make everything bound to legacy. Problem solved. How would that solve turning your BH into a Trooper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infernixx Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 How would that solve turning your BH into a Trooper? On a related note, I was talking with Guildies about the idea of an Imperial Trooper Class/Story being added down the road... "Dude, it wouldn't work." "And why not?" "It'd last about three missions and when you did something that a Sith disliked, you'd end up Force Choked to death." "Valid point." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman_AZ Posted May 13, 2014 Author Share Posted May 13, 2014 On a related note, I was talking with Guildies about the idea of an Imperial Trooper Class/Story being added down the road... "Dude, it wouldn't work." "And why not?" "It'd last about three missions and when you did something that a Sith disliked, you'd end up Force Choked to death." "Valid point." True, if it were a story with a terminus. But, in a game world, where you are the hero, regardless of your affiliations, I would imagine a rogue trooper (level 55), breaks away from Havoc squad much the same way the original team betrays the Republic, would make for an interesting twist. You spend all this time tracking them down, killing them, and then... taking their place Plot twists are awesome. Though, in this case, we are talking more about defectors and less about the physical change from BH to Trooper, or Jedi to Sith. I think the defector's thing could work, if they wanted to give it a go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOHboy Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 True, if it were a story with a terminus. But, in a game world, where you are the hero, regardless of your affiliations, I would imagine a rogue trooper (level 55), breaks away from Havoc squad much the same way the original team betrays the Republic, would make for an interesting twist. You spend all this time tracking them down, killing them, and then... taking their place Plot twists are awesome. Though, in this case, we are talking more about defectors and less about the physical change from BH to Trooper, or Jedi to Sith. I think the defector's thing could work, if they wanted to give it a go. ok, lets work this out and hopefully point out the problems. char becomes a traitor and chooses to swap factions. a) char either changes to the equivalent "BH class" and some how magically has a new spouse and companions b) char remains a trooper but is now walking around an imp fleet with rest of companions (who wouldn't swap) c) char remains a trooper but is a traitor still walking around pub fleet given a) you have problems with swapping gear, companions, ship, titles, plot points, etc. which is what everyone ignores when requesting _____Swap given b) you are completely out of place and should be killed by the first person to see you makes zero sense and is meaningless outside that you somehow magically gain access to imp fleet while retaining everything pub. given c) this is basically the "RP" version" and you are free to play fairytale anyway you wish as it keeps everything as is, you just "pretened" you defected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaineOs Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Hey folks, This is a good question! We have been asked this a few times at some of our Cantina Tours as well but I wanted to make sure we had the answer here in the forums for folks to be able to find it. I am remiss to ever say the word never, but I can say that it is very, very unlikely that we would ever implement any type of Faction change. As some others have alluded to in this thread, a very many things are tied into your characters Faction, and the choices they have made throughout their story. Due to that, having your faction change has a lot of impact on many things, not only from a story sense, but also technically involving your character. Because of that, it is very unlikely we will ever implement Faction change. -eric What if the class story itself provided a reasonable way of changing factions? One of the way's you can end the imperial agent story is by becoming a republic double agent for the SIS. So if the class story was ever expanded...well I'm sure you can see where I'm going Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infernixx Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 What if the class story itself provided a reasonable way of changing factions? One of the way's you can end the imperial agent story is by becoming a republic double agent for the SIS. So if the class story was ever expanded...well I'm sure you can see where I'm going As has been pointed out, your char may switch sides, but even those within a position to do so may find it impossible due to companions. At least three of your example's companions would throw an ungodly fit if your example were to try and switch sides. The other two probably wouldn't care much, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec_Fortescue Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 I don't see it a big deal. Even a busy person can level up relevantly quick and make a mirror of their class in TOR. This is one thing I really like about TOR, compared to WoW, you level really quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeweledleah Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 I don't see it a big deal. Even a busy person can level up relevantly quick and make a mirror of their class in TOR. This is one thing I really like about TOR, compared to WoW, you level really quick. we definitely have very different experiences. becasue I level a lot slower in SWTOR then I do in WoW. maybe its due to actualy listening to conversations, not sure, but even when I add flashpoints into the mix, it still takes me a lot longer to level then in WoW. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrikePrice Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 How would that solve turning your BH into a Trooper? It's trivial to level a character on the other faction to 55. It's the equip that's an issue. If I have a BH with all BoL gear, all I have to do is create a trooper, level him up to 55 and then transfer all my gear. The investment of time in the toon is not the levels, it's the gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khevar Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 we definitely have very different experiences. becasue I level a lot slower in SWTOR then I do in WoW. maybe its due to actualy listening to conversations, not sure, but even when I add flashpoints into the mix, it still takes me a lot longer to level then in WoW. :/ I'm curious (never having played WoW), how long does it take you to level a toon in that game? I tried to find something about this when they started selling level 90 unlocks, and found a few people saying it takes about 150 hours to level a toon to 90. Is that your experience as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlienEyeTX Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 AC has nothing to do with it though, I simply believe that allowing people to reply the biggest draw to this game would be a great move. Class story is broken up over a couple months 1-55. Allowing me to reply it with no distractions would be a draw for me since I skipped over everything I could while leveling. Take a PTS character, jump to 55, then play the class missions. Easy as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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