Superman_AZ Posted May 12, 2014 Author Share Posted May 12, 2014 You can change Species because it is just a cosmetic choice. You can't change gender because there are underlying technical issues with conversation tracking in companion romances. You can't change Faction because there is an underlying technical issue with tracking quest flags as you progress through the class quests, and the associated companion arcs. What you are asking for with a Faction change (or a Class change) is a change in story, something I don't recall WoW having that much of. AC swap is a matter best left for the other thread. If I go from Male Jedi Knight (tank) to Female Sith Warrior (tank), I would not have completed the companion quests and would therefore, at 55, need to go back and get my companions by pushing through the class story (at a pretty brisk pace). I fail to see how faction or sex changing affects my idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vhaegrant Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 If I go from Male Jedi Knight (tank) to Female Sith Warrior (tank), I would not have completed the companion quests and would therefore, at 55, need to go back and get my companions by pushing through the class story (at a pretty brisk pace). I fail to see how faction or sex changing affects my idea. So, what you're actually asking for is a story reset mode that lets you faceroll through the mirror class content with a max level character? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman_AZ Posted May 12, 2014 Author Share Posted May 12, 2014 So, what you're actually asking for is a story reset mode that lets you faceroll through the mirror class content with a max level character? It's one of a few possibilities just to show this could be done. Now, being a realist, I know this will likely NEVER happen, but sometimes it is fun to ask for things just to see if they are possible. I mean, you never know. BW never mentioned anything about player housing, and we are getting that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reno_Tarshil Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 So, what you're actually asking for is a story reset mode that lets you faceroll through the mirror class content with a max level character? Seems like an excuse to just see the content without putting in the work to do so more than once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman_AZ Posted May 12, 2014 Author Share Posted May 12, 2014 Seems like an excuse to just see the content without putting in the work to do so more than once. Kinda like an AC swap. Get the other side of the coin and never have to put in the effort. If an AC swap is possible, surely this is too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vhaegrant Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 Kinda like an AC swap. Get the other side of the coin and never have to put in the effort. If an AC swap is possible, surely this is too It's nothing like an AC swap. The prime distinction of Class (more so than Faction) is that it sets the characters story and the specific class quests and companion content. This is completely different between all the eight classes in SWTOR (Bounty Hunter, Imperial Agent, Sith Warrior, Sith Inquisitor, Republic Trooper, Smuggler, Jedi Knight, Jedi Consular). There is zero difference in story content and companions between the Advanced Classes of any Class. All you have with an AC swap is access to the two subsets of specialisations. You have not bypassed any content, you have not magically gained an additional character. You do not retain previous abilities from the AC you swapped from. All Advanced Class balance is preserved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vhaegrant Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 It's one of a few possibilities just to show this could be done. Now, being a realist, I know this will likely NEVER happen, but sometimes it is fun to ask for things just to see if they are possible. I mean, you never know. BW never mentioned anything about player housing, and we are getting that. I think we both know the real reason you started this thread I mean, if you know it's NEVER going to happen, why even ask? I was quite happy speculating on the merits of AC swaps until you turned up and turned it into your personal crusade . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW_display_name Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 So this thread isn't actually about discussing how Faction Swap could work? Because it mostly just seems to be people arguing about AC swaps... or something... actually I can't really tell what this is about, It's kind of weird. But it's actually an interesting topic to figure out how you could implement a Faction swap in SWTOR, given how convoluted and faction-bound so many of its features are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertthebard Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 So this thread isn't actually about discussing how Faction Swap could work? Because it mostly just seems to be people arguing about AC swaps... or something... actually I can't really tell what this is about, It's kind of weird. But it's actually an interesting topic to figure out how you could implement a Faction swap in SWTOR, given how convoluted and faction-bound so many of its features are. It's simple how it could work, but the OP won't want to do it, because it takes away from his troll of the other thread: You buy the token from the CM, and it resets all your crafting skills to 0, and sets the character to level 1. You get to keep all the stuff in your cargo hold, and all your credits. You then start over as the new faction, and presto, no issues with quest flags, they've all been reset, and you're level 1, so haven't done anything yet. You have the added bonus of getting to keep your name. If your new faction weapons don't coincide, too bad, you're starting over, you'll have to acquire new stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZahirS Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 (edited) Kinda like an AC swap. Get the other side of the coin and never have to put in the effort. If an AC swap is possible, surely this is too Everything is possible, like you for example getting a girl out of your league like you onced said... Not sure why dropping to say: UNLIKELY makes up for it. Edited May 13, 2014 by ZahirS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW_display_name Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Yeah that's one option. I'd rather they tie it in to a future storyline, though. It's one advantage of merging "Class stories" into "Faction stories" — it doesn't really matter what class is running the missions from 50 forward. Well, not nearly as much as it does pre-50, I mean. That opens the option of having more variations on the "Republic hero" and "Imperial conqueror" figures. Like yeah, this is more work for them, but it also adds story and richness to the feature rather than just making it a cold meta-level swap. They could milk that as a major 'feature' of a future 'digital expansion' or whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth-Obvious Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 It's simple how it could work, but the OP won't want to do it, because it takes away from his troll of the other thread: You buy the token from the CM, and it resets all your crafting skills to 0, and sets the character to level 1. You get to keep all the stuff in your cargo hold, and all your credits. You then start over as the new faction, and presto, no issues with quest flags, they've all been reset, and you're level 1, so haven't done anything yet. You have the added bonus of getting to keep your name. If your new faction weapons don't coincide, too bad, you're starting over, you'll have to acquire new stuff. You don't have a cargo hold at level 1 though and if Legacy Storage allows you to move any item between characters such a feature would be even more pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman_AZ Posted May 13, 2014 Author Share Posted May 13, 2014 Yeah that's one option. I'd rather they tie it in to a future storyline, though. It's one advantage of merging "Class stories" into "Faction stories" — it doesn't really matter what class is running the missions from 50 forward. Well, not nearly as much as it does pre-50, I mean. That opens the option of having more variations on the "Republic hero" and "Imperial conqueror" figures. Like yeah, this is more work for them, but it also adds story and richness to the feature rather than just making it a cold meta-level swap. They could milk that as a major 'feature' of a future 'digital expansion' or whatever. Defector's quest might be fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZahirS Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Defector's quest might be fun Superman, Ill just go ahead and ask are you Superman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman_AZ Posted May 13, 2014 Author Share Posted May 13, 2014 (edited) Superman, Ill just go ahead and ask are you Superman? More like Clark Kent Edited May 13, 2014 by Superman_AZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman_AZ Posted May 13, 2014 Author Share Posted May 13, 2014 It's simple how it could work, but the OP won't want to do it, because it takes away from his troll of the other thread: You buy the token from the CM, and it resets all your crafting skills to 0, and sets the character to level 1. You get to keep all the stuff in your cargo hold, and all your credits. You then start over as the new faction, and presto, no issues with quest flags, they've all been reset, and you're level 1, so haven't done anything yet. You have the added bonus of getting to keep your name. If your new faction weapons don't coincide, too bad, you're starting over, you'll have to acquire new stuff. Interesting. If it were even possible, would be worth a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelinCarnate Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 (edited) You can already change factions. Although to make sure you are not a spy, all your memories are erased, you are given a new name and a new memory and you have to relearn everything you know. Edited May 13, 2014 by HelinCarnate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman_AZ Posted May 13, 2014 Author Share Posted May 13, 2014 You can already change factions. Although to make sure you are not a spy, all your memories are erased, you are given a new name and a new memory and you have to relearn everything you know. 10/10 made me chuckle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khevar Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 WoW has been doing this for quite some time. BW could make it just as easy considering their technology is much newer. Also, it would make for a nice source of additional revenue. Just out of curiosity, is this born out of a desire to bring a republic toon into a imp raid or warzone? (Or vice versa) Like, having a group consisting of a Powertech, Assassin, Commando and Jedi Sage? Or by faction change, do you mean converting a Powertech into a Vanguard, an Assassin into a Shadow, etc.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertthebard Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 You don't have a cargo hold at level 1 though and if Legacy Storage allows you to move any item between characters such a feature would be even more pointless. You don't have access to it, but that doesn't mean it's not there, unless you don't have cargo hold access for some other reason than you haven't gotten to the fleet yet. In all honesty, I have no idea how that works at all. The plus side is that for the majority of stuff that you'd want to save, you won't need it at level 1 anyway. In DDO, they have True Reincarnation, which does almost exactly this, and creates a special bank added to the bank called the TR Cache, where all the stuff you've had in your bank is put. Of course, there you have access to your bank as soon as you get back to the mainland, which on a TR is lvl 1, since you've already done the "tutorial". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XiamaraSimi Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 It is so rediculously easy to level a character in this game, especially if you already have one, just make a new one... wait nevermind I forgot that people dont want to actually play the game they are playing... As with everything in life, if you want something, don't be lazy, go get it... "But I don't want to put the effort into leveling a character to see the other side, just take my money and change the one I have now." If your hungry, and are in the forest and only see berries will you starve because you want a steak instead? Or will you try to build a bow ant hunt up that steak you want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordArtemis Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Well, considering that they do not intend to expand class story, perhaps offering the change at max level for your mirrored class would not be beyond consideration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicrodhe Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 WoW has been doing this for quite some time. BW could make it just as easy considering their technology is much newer. Also, it would make for a nice source of additional revenue. By the time this is put in the game if ever you could have leveled a new character of the faction you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThorgrimLutgen Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 This is a feature, like AC change, wanted by people who should be playing GTO14 or FIFA Soccer on their PS4s instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekwalizer Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 WoW has been doing this for quite some time. BW could make it just as easy considering their technology is much newer. Also, it would make for a nice source of additional revenue. Somehow knowing full well this is a troll thread, I am compelled to respond anyway. Changing factions in this game isn't as simple as it is in WoW. In WoW, you don't have 5 companions aligned to your character's faction. You don't have a home/ship aligned to your faction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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