jimmybob Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 I've read time and again that "Legacy is not JUST for alts!" but I can't find any details. Are there any? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiiRahnedancer Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 There's very little info on this atm. I do recall reading that there would be special abilities that your legacy would unlock for your main and alts alike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirUrza Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 I'm hoping for a buff to our dash speed and how many Social Points, Light, and Dark side points we earn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inarai Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 At the moment, Legacy doesn't do all that much for anyone. Details are light on what it will eventually do, as well. Just have to wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodalus Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 (edited) BW: "We have this great legacy system feature that we will be putting in the game." Players: "Really, what is it?" BW: " We aren't ready to say, but we're excited about it." <Game launches> Players: "A last name. . . that's it? And it carries over between factions on a single server but not across servers even if the same faction? It affects all of your characters on that server, cannot be changed, does not have a preview, and the system auto-changes it to conform to the non-communicated restrictions?" BW: "I know! Isn't it awesome!" Players: "???" BW: "We'll released more stuff for it, eventually." Players: "What will the additional features be?" BW: "We're not telling." Players: "Should I hold off on rolling alts?" BW: . . . Players: "???" BW: "We're going to be adding features to the legacy system in patch 1.2. These will include new races. . . kinda. And then there's other stuff." Players: "What kind of other stuff? What are the new races? Is it currently unplayable races that are in the game, or just races that are currently playable by one class that will now be playable on another? Will there be a way to change our current characters with these new features?" BW: . . . Players: "???" Edited February 15, 2012 by Vodalus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reye Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 BW: "We have this great legacy system feature that we will be putting in the game." Players: "Really, what is it?" BW: " We aren't ready to say, but we're excited about it." <Game launches> Players: "A last name. . . that's it? And it carries over between factions on a single server but not across servers even if the same faction? It affects all of your characters on that server, cannot be changed, does not have a preview, and the system auto-changes it to conform to the non-communicated restrictions?" BW: "I know! Isn't it awesome!" Players: "???" BW: "We'll released more stuff for it, eventually." Players: "What will the additional features be?" BW: "We're not telling." Players: "Should I hold off on rolling alts?" BW: . . . Players: "???" BW: "We're going to be adding features to the legacy system in patch 1.2. These will include new races. . . kinda. And then there's other stuff." Players: "What kind of other stuff? What are the new races? Is it currently unplayable races that are in the game, or just races that are currently playable by one class that will now be playable on another? Will there be a way to change our current characters with these new features?" BW: . . . this... omg this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inarai Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 *snip* They said they were hoping to get it for launch. Only the barebones support made it in. Welcome to development. The fact that they're not revealing much is going to be due to exactly 2 things - no more, no less: 1: Hard to say for certain what's going to make it in for that patch. Some stuff might slip. 2: Marketing would want to hold some information back to release later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philpdogg Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/719852/swtor-legacy-system-guide-details-rewards-and-benefits-for-star-wars-the-old-republics-family-tree/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantragk Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 They said they were hoping to get it for launch. Only the barebones support made it in. Welcome to development. The fact that they're not revealing much is going to be due to exactly 2 things - no more, no less: 1: Hard to say for certain what's going to make it in for that patch. Some stuff might slip. 2: Marketing would want to hold some information back to release later. Sooooooooo basically EA forced them to launch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodalus Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 They said they were hoping to get it for launch. Only the barebones support made it in. Welcome to development. The fact that they're not revealing much is going to be due to exactly 2 things - no more, no less: 1: Hard to say for certain what's going to make it in for that patch. Some stuff might slip. 2: Marketing would want to hold some information back to release later. Don't care, not my problem. If the above scenario were limited to this one feature, then I, and likely many others, would be much more flexible and forgiving. But it seems to be more the rule than the exception with this game. I was patient. I followed the game from the beginning, including joining the forums the day they opened. I was in beta for 6 months and put up with GZ's antics and blatant statements that my feedback meant nothing and we were just there to give them metrics; yet I still filed my bug reports and provided in-game and forum feedback like a good little tester. I did my part. BW did not do theirs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philpdogg Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Don't care, not my problem. If the above scenario were limited to this one feature, then I, and likely many others, would be much more flexible and forgiving. But it seems to be more the rule than the exception with this game. I was patient. I followed the game from the beginning, including joining the forums the day they opened. I was in beta for 6 months and put up with GZ's antics and blatant statements that my feedback meant nothing and we were just there to give them metrics; yet I still filed my bug reports and provided in-game and forum feedback like a good little tester. I did my part. BW did not do theirs. I like your thing you have "I'm not a hater, I'm a disillusioned and disappointed fan. "I spent a good 5 or 10 minutes searching around the preferences because I was sure a feature like this would not have been omitted."- A simple quote that I have seen countless times; This is what is wrong with TOR in my book. " I have spent hours looking for setting that I would think would be in a game to not find it... I hope they add stuff for the UI and other key things soonish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inarai Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Sooooooooo basically EA forced them to launch. ... Where the hell are you getting that from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ombraa Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 (edited) Gives you an extra 4 inches. Come on. You could use it, be honest. Ahahah, never enough Edited February 15, 2012 by ombraa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Butler Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 (edited) Alternative - not put the Legacy xp in at launch so no-one could begin earning legacy xp and then release the finished product as an update at some point in the future e.g. like most MMOs do. Why always assume the negative? The fact its in mean people are collecting free reward points without knowing what the rewards are. It's beteter than not being able to collect any reward points until the system is completley launched. Edited February 15, 2012 by The_Butler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckskyline Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Wait a gosh darn pickin minute... You mean to tell me, a game developer/game did not release every little detail of everything? WHAT THE HELL IS THIS!? Player: I WANT IT NOAW!!!! Bioware: We are working on it Player :NAWO! Bioware: What? Please use proper english Player: The Legacy system sucks. You did not release any information about it all. You suck. Bioware: *cancels legacy system and shuts down all servers because they realize they are fail* Player: ZOMG I TOLD YUO! /sarcasm Seriously are new to pc gaming? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urael Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/719852/swtor-legacy-system-guide-details-rewards-and-benefits-for-star-wars-the-old-republics-family-tree/ You realize this article doesn't say much right? Right? *something something something* Family Tree. *something something something* Darkside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goretzu Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 They said they were hoping to get it for launch. Only the barebones support made it in. Welcome to development. The fact that they're not revealing much is going to be due to exactly 2 things - no more, no less: 1: Hard to say for certain what's going to make it in for that patch. Some stuff might slip. 2: Marketing would want to hold some information back to release later. Well the 3rd thing is that they still subscribe to the Carrie school of "awesome" PR. Which you may not get initially, but eventually may unfortunately get all too familiar with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inarai Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Alternative - not put the Legacy xp in at launch so no-one could begin earning legacy xp and then release the finished product as an update at some point in the future e.g. like most MMOs do. And just imagine the forum riot then about all the "wasted time leveling alts without full benefit" and how Bioware should retroactively reward the Legacy XP, and further the issues that older players wouldn't get the leg up on getting the name they wanted without artificial intervention that would cause more issues... There's no question, really, that this was the right choice for this system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodalus Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 (edited) Alternative - not put the Legacy xp in at launch so no-one could begin earning legacy xp and then release the finished product as an update at some point in the future e.g. like most MMOs do. Why always assume the negative? The fact its in mean people are collecting free reward points without knowing what the rewards are. It's beeter than not being able to collect any reward points until the system is completley launched. The feature was hyped as one of the new and exciting things in the game. Two problems with this: First, if you are going to hype something as one of the (very few) new and exciting features, you had better make damn sure it is actually in the game. Second, if you want people to have faith in what is coming because you failed on the first point, tell them what is coming. Don't play this coy, carefully chosen vague word game of spewing out paragraph after paragraph that doesn't actually tell us anything. Marketing speak is not the way to build confidence, faith, and patience. Marketing speak is for influencing impulses. People are paying to play this game. People want to know what to expect for their money. People want to be able to make decisions while they are expected to be patient and wait for the actual feature. Edited February 15, 2012 by Vodalus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiaThas Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 BW: "We have this great legacy system feature that we will be putting in the game." Players: "Really, what is it?" BW: " We aren't ready to say, but we're excited about it." <Game launches> Players: "A last name. . . that's it? And it carries over between factions on a single server but not across servers even if the same faction? It affects all of your characters on that server, cannot be changed, does not have a preview, and the system auto-changes it to conform to the non-communicated restrictions?" BW: "I know! Isn't it awesome!" Players: "???" BW: "We'll released more stuff for it, eventually." Players: "What will the additional features be?" BW: "We're not telling." Players: "Should I hold off on rolling alts?" BW: . . . Players: "???" BW: "We're going to be adding features to the legacy system in patch 1.2. These will include new races. . . kinda. And then there's other stuff." Players: "What kind of other stuff? What are the new races? Is it currently unplayable races that are in the game, or just races that are currently playable by one class that will now be playable on another? Will there be a way to change our current characters with these new features?" BW: . . . Players: "???" I was in hysterics at this. True though:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mangarrage Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Hate to sound negative but the Legacy system is going to be a great disappointment. I have already written this off. No new races but you may be able to make a sith jedi lol or a Rattaki Trooper, unimaginative and uninspired. They could have put in new races and then it would have been like omg awesome but they didnt. They even stated it will not significantly change a character either because you cannot give an advantage to people who only play one class lol. That was funny to read This system means absolutely nothing to me because it will have no impact on play experience for the most part So it will be fluff, and making fluff imo is a total waste of time I still love the game, but I wouldnt look for anything interesting with its implementation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inarai Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Second, if you want people to have faith in what is coming because you failed on the first point, tell them what is coming. Don't play this coy, carefully chosen vague word game of spewing out paragraph after paragraph that doesn't actually tell us anything. Marketing speak is not the way to build confidence, faith, and patience. Marketing speak is for influencing impulses. People are paying to play this game. People want to know what to expect for their money. People want to be able to make decisions while they are expected to be patient and wait for the actual feature. And then if something gets the axe, you're screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shingara Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Let me bring you upto speed, at this time we know nothing, you are now upto speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blotter Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 (edited) Hate to sound negative but the Legacy system is going to be a great disappointment. I have already written this off. No new races but you may be able to make a sith jedi lol or a Rattaki Trooper, unimaginative and uninspired. They could have put in new races and then it would have been like omg awesome but they didnt. They even stated it will not significantly change a character either because you cannot give an advantage to people who only play one class lol. That was funny to read This system means absolutely nothing to me because it will have no impact on play experience for the most part So it will be fluff, and making fluff imo is a total waste of time I still love the game, but I wouldnt look for anything interesting with its implementation Sounds to me like it's going to be a great disapopintment because you had a wishlist and BW didn't fulfill it. New races don't come out in MMOs wihin the first 3 months of launch. How long was it before Blizz introduced Dranei and BEs? Anyway, as is typical on this forum, I think this is another case expectations being way off base, not BW failing in some major way. It's not supposed to be a major change in how the game gets played or allow people who were able to grind lots of LEgacy levels lord it over those who weren't with extra special talents in combat etc. Maybe things like shared cargo holds and such. It's a perk system that will be full of superficial, but probably somewhat nice, conveniences for leveling your alts and such. It's not supopsed to be, nor should it, a massive change to how you can play your toons. Edited February 15, 2012 by Blotter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanzoV Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Slightly related; I noticed that I lost my Legacy XP bar recently. I didn't bother to look for it, as it's currently useless. Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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