NiBorg Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiweo Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 The biggest crutch for open world pvp is the restrictions BW has put on us. We cant travel to many of the opposing players areas. And places we can get to are guarded by "god" NPCs that will blast you back to SWG if you come in range. I rolled a toon on a PVE server to just see the difference in pvp. To me I didnt see any. For those of us who rolled a pvp server, we should be able to go to the other factions areas and lock it down or do whatever the hell we want. It is up to the other faction to kick us out. The WZ kill open pvp, everyone is too busy running wz to bother going out in the rest of the "world" to kill other players. SWG didnt have wz to begin with and that is why the world pvp was so good. We had to go out there are beat on each other. "Not set up a playdate (wz) and arrange it so everyone has fun and make sure everyone doesnt get their wittle feelwings hurt cause they got ganked." (sarcasim off) Dont get me wrong I still like the game and expect they will make changes as we progress. Hell it is only been a little over a month. SWG in the beginning was 100x worse that this game. Give me guildwars and I'll be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Jue- Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 (edited) The biggest crutch for open world pvp is the restrictions BW has put on us. We cant travel to many of the opposing players areas. And places we can get to are guarded by "god" NPCs that will blast you back to SWG if you come in range. I rolled a toon on a PVE server to just see the difference in pvp. To me I didnt see any. For those of us who rolled a pvp server, we should be able to go to the other factions areas and lock it down or do whatever the hell we want. It is up to the other faction to kick us out. The WZ kill open pvp, everyone is too busy running wz to bother going out in the rest of the "world" to kill other players. SWG didnt have wz to begin with and that is why the world pvp was so good. We had to go out there are beat on each other. "Not set up a playdate (wz) and arrange it so everyone has fun and make sure everyone doesnt get their wittle feelwings hurt cause they got ganked." (sarcasim off) Dont get me wrong I still like the game and expect they will make changes as we progress. Hell it is only been a little over a month. SWG in the beginning was 100x worse that this game. Give me guildwars and I'll be happy. There are a few bases that can actually be locked down. You just need to know how to get inside them. For example the Shuttle bays on Hoth used to cause alot of fighting but now since 1.1 the shuttle room is not a contested zone any more. Only reason people are doing Warzones is to get their gear mainly since the valor farm on Ilum is much faster now. IMO they some remove this PvP armour junk. You PvP to have fun and to be competitive, not to grind gear. This game threw that out of the window when the PvP gear came. Edited January 22, 2012 by -Jue- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khamsinvera Posted January 22, 2012 Author Share Posted January 22, 2012 now there's a name i haven't seen in a LONG time how ya doin bud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotbox Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 There are a few bases that can actually be locked down. You just need to know how to get inside them. For example the Shuttle bays on Hoth used to cause alot of fighting but now since 1.1 the shuttle room is not a contested zone any more. Only reason people are doing Warzones is to get their gear mainly since the valor farm on Ilum is much faster now. IMO they some remove this PvP armour junk. You PvP to have fun and to be competitive, not to grind gear. This game threw that out of the window when the PvP gear came. I'll agree with that. Once you make separate gear, all people do is farm for it, then rarely PVP again. On our server its just a farm fest for Valor. You get in an ops group and then swap AOE's over and over and watch the valor flow in. It's not PVP at all, and accomplishes little. A big problem too is the lack of any reward for open world PVP. You get nothing for killing someone in open world PVP , so no one bothers. Why not make valor and other rewards the same as PVE? Why separate the two-- you should be able to get the same loot rewards from killing players as you do bosses. If they are worried about farming they should take a look at Ilum on a Friday night. That's all that's going on anyway. PVP is in a sad state, and there is certainly no point in rolling on a PVP server except for the minute satisfaction of ganking someone over a quest spot or a node, and that's pretty short lived. It's Restuss 2.0 all over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylyn Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 I think there may be way too much defeatism going around the player base. It's even here to a small degree. You guys can make the fights you want happen. It's just a matter of networking the guilds on both sides. BB's Ilum went through the same issues, or in some cases worse. As a population spread, BB started with 9 Empire for every Republic player. Tuesday 1/17/2012 was pre 1.1: http://www.belgothsbeacon.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=1489 Thursday 1/19/2012 was post 1.1: http://www.belgothsbeacon.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=1530 By Saturday 1/21/2012, we had a spontaneous uprising on the side with the minority of players (Republic): http://www.belgothsbeacon.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=1560 This isn't fixed and it will still go through ups and downs on our server. However, it is normalizing at a better rate of competition than I'm reading about on the SWTOR forums. As you know, it critical to get the player base used to moving as teams and guilds working together on both sides. Every guild that has posted here has done that in the past. You can do it again if you put your minds to it. For the Restuss comparison, you have a stronger pvp potential here. Ilum was easily supporting a spread 60 vs 60, with less lag than Restuss would in a 20 vs 20. The shard system works fine. The smaller side can stack their team in the first shard, so there is no imbalance or morale issues. There are a few other nice things about Ilum. It won't lock people out like the wpvp WOW zones like Wintergrasp. It works more like the COX engine for Recluses Victory, without COX's npc crap. There will be some lag in large engagements, but nothing like the pre cu / cu slideshows in SWG. If people take advantage of the taxi system and spread the objectives to multiple raids in multiple areas, the lag levels lessen greatly. The guilds here could get at least 4 other servers hopping, if you chose too. It just takes the same background work you've all done before. The guilds here are Bria vets. You can do anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TehStevo Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Wall of text crits you for over 9000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pizzleet Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 hi guyz! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VorusKets Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 (edited) Hello fellow (former) Bria players Tehbish/Blasc Letel from Esto Perpetua (EP) checking in. probably don't recall me, but maybe you all remember SirGronk (THE ORIGINAL), DudeyDude, Dirk (Pfeiffer), joerg/malfus. we're slowly making it on to TOR, we're on warriors of the shadow (repub) good to see the community back together in a way. I have to say, there was nothing like the individual SWG server communities . Edited January 25, 2012 by VorusKets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivoes Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 So, figured I should check in seeing as I'm finally able to get on the game. Formerly Ivoes Roorou/Ji'raiya of Bria's AMOR guild. On here, I'll be running as Ivoes (if possible) on the Grandmaster Zym (Zim?) server due to a RL friend being on there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWookieeSith Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 (edited) ooo lordy Cripwalker using same name on nadds with old retro guild guys the guild im on for nadds--- guild-(emperiors hand) hit me up Edited January 28, 2012 by TheWookieeSith the guild im in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mokbah Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Hello fellow (former) Bria players Tehbish/Blasc Letel from Esto Perpetua (EP) checking in. probably don't recall me, but maybe you all remember SirGronk (THE ORIGINAL), DudeyDude, Dirk (Pfeiffer), joerg/malfus. we're slowly making it on to TOR, we're on warriors of the shadow (repub) good to see the community back together in a way. I have to say, there was nothing like the individual SWG server communities . The PFEIFFER bros? What server are you guys playing on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbailey Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Youllbe and I are having a pillow fight sleepover in San Fran on Sunday, wanna join us? GO GIANTS Go Pats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VorusKets Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 The PFEIFFER bros? What server are you guys playing on? we're on Warriors of the Shadow. Dirk and Joerg aren't with us yet, I haven't heard from them since pre-launch . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberians Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 (edited) Hi Guys! Tiberians Sun (Tibs) and Shells Briana reporting in:) Spent 4 years on bria b4 Xfering to flurry for the last few months of SWG. Edited February 2, 2012 by Tiberians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibelle Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Quiet thread is quiet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkruglyak Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Old Bria'n Iroth Quywe here. Anyone I recognize around here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibelle Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Old Bria'n Iroth Quywe here. Anyone I recognize around here? Iroth sounds vaguely familiar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkruglyak Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Iroth sounds vaguely familiar. I was around since Beta 2 on Bria, switched between Imp and Rebel too many times to tell. Was part of FBI for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibelle Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 I was around since Beta 2 on Bria, switched between Imp and Rebel too many times to tell. Was part of FBI for a while. Ah. Well hello. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylvan Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Ah. Well hello. Ha, Tenshi, I remember you! It's Jen'doon/Muldoon, how do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cythis Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 (edited) Formally known as Ashuda Edited February 10, 2012 by Cythis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emeda Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Bria- Blindman karnack pre-cu jedi Emeda O'bli Architect and owner of Tyronis Hotel (galactic showcase winner) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotbox Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 I think this game has gotten half of the MMO gamers out there to update their rigs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird_of_Thunder Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Anyone remember me, Ravvok Scythewrath? Double bladed Lightsaber, sometimes dual wield lightsabers, Zabrak male, generally a vid-star? I switched to Bloodfin after some great gaming years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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