Naktagala Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 1490 players, as opposed to the several hundred thousand that are playing the game, having fun and haven't bothered to vote on that site. Hmmmm. and the several hundred thousend who stopped playing, unsubbed and never voted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyknight Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 6 months from now Guild Wars 2 will kill this game and force it to go F2P. Everyone has such high expectations for that game considering its a F2P ...which is kinda of ironic to your post. I wonder how many subcribers the Guild Wars IP would get if it was pay to play... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KippTabor Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 and the several hundred thousend who stopped playing, unsubbed and never voted. I'm sure you can provide source material for your wild claims? Lawl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brickabrack Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 (edited) So, a bunch of random trolls throw in 0 scores to throw off the curve and that's counted along with the over eager fans who throw in 10 scores to throw off the curve and that's just the people who know what Metacritic is and we're treating that seriously? Ahahahahahah Edited February 1, 2012 by Brickabrack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vyradder Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Seems, judging from the commentaries on the review sites, that all the disgruntled players left in a huff to run crying to anyone who'd listen. Whiners crying about the endgame in a six week old game, geeze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyknight Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 and the several hundred thousend who stopped playing, unsubbed and never voted. AND the several ''hundred thousands'' who subscribe every week...bla bla nobody really knows the real numbers except for Bioware and EA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VicSkimmr Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 1,500 people is frankly a pathetic sample, and it's filled with people who gave it a 0/10 back when the game first launched because there were queues. Yeah that's a totally accurate portrayal of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavajo Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Nah. I think that the same handful of QQers will be over on GW2 crying that it ruined their lives. Seen it happen to every MMO since the console kids decided that PC gaming was their next frontier. (A year or two into WoW's lifespan). Been computer gaming since I was 10. Never been much into console games, other than Goldeneye 64 with some buddies over. Now married and in my late 20's. This game is awesome 1-49, but sucks after a couple weeks of being level 50. There's just nothing to do. So there goes your theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KippTabor Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Everyone has such high expectations for that game considering its a F2P ...which is kinda of ironic to your post. I wonder how many subcribers the Guild Wars IP would get if it was pay to play... Too bad that GW2 won't have a forums. I'd love to ridicule these kids when they QQ about GW2 as well. Because you know they will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archifikoss Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 and the several hundred thousend who stopped playing, unsubbed and never voted. Even if it's true (could very well be), there's still some hundred thousand who are playing. And didn't vote. So the point of this post was... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KippTabor Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 (edited) Been computer gaming since I was 10. Never been much into console games, other than Goldeneye 64 with some buddies over. Now married and in my late 20's. This game is awesome 1-49, but sucks after a couple weeks of being level 50. There's just nothing to do. So there goes your theory. Thanks for the unsolicited (and probably false) life story. I don't believe you. Deal with it. Edited February 1, 2012 by KippTabor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtmach Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 I feel that there are some user reviews that are more accurate to my impressions of the game than compared to professional. But I never look at overall or average user score. Too often the numbers are inflated by people who just want to oppose each other. The 1s can't stand the 10s and vice versa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Cruiser Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 What surprises me about the Metacritic responses are all the people that give the game a 10.0 because "they like it and are having fun and it's the best MMO ever!". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimhand Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 You realize within minutes of opening user reviews Metacritic was flooded with 0/10 reviews. There was a good long article linked on Reddit about "The Internet vs SW:TOR". There is a group of people (not necessarily a guild or organization, mostly probably doing it on their own) with an invested hatred of SW:TOR for no reason other than it is a BioWare game, a WoW competitor or just for it existing, maybe even KoTOR fans pissed its a subscription MMO. Fact of the matter is, that low user score is from trolls. Look at how low Modern Warfare 3 got, because a bunch haters went and spammed it with 0/10 reviews (I am not saying Modern Warfare 3 is exceptional, merely using that as another example). Metacritic user scores are meaningless data. Sample size is too small, and too easily to manipulate by troll accounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenthran Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 I saw the reviews and while some of them are more realistic honestly to give this game a 0 on a 0-10 scale is ridiculous. By no means is this game perfect and I can think of a few things that bug me personally. All I can say is if ya enjoy the game great, if you don't then stop playing those are your options. There's been a few games that after shelling out the cash for em I'd wished I didn't its just the nature of the beast so to speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleeha Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 yes, lets allow 1500 people, a large portion of which has prolly not even played the game rate something. polls like this are stupid, its like when BBC says "The UK population hates cheese" - sample of 100 people asked. or if you are american, when they say they have asked 100 americans whether or not they like obama and then saying americans hate him. This size pool is so small its pointless. How do you know that a "large portion" have players haven't played the game? Where do you get your data from? Your butt is where you got your data from. It's stupid retorts like this that make these forums fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mashy Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 I like the game and thats all that matters. Same here! OP is just upset that this game is not precisely what he expected it to be. Rest of us meanwhile are having a ball! Sucks to be him I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kthx Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Well hey, 6 months from now, this game will finally be what BioWare designed it as -- single player. If the game has not failed in six months, will you apologize? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Cruiser Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Say what you will about the 0 reviews and the 10 reviews fighting each other, a 5.9 is about what this game deserves. It's a fun but average title and I just haven't met many people, in game and out, that anticipate making this game their long term MMO home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plusieurs Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 (edited) There is a real theorem that a random variable will reflect its underlying probability over a very large random sample. In this case, we're using Metacritic's user rating of 5.9: http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/star-wars-the-old-republic/user-reviews Putting 1500 non-random gamers to the test with SWTOR for a month and have them rate it on a scale of 1-10. You will very likely come up with an inaccurate measure of the game's worth based on that many reviews, as they are not a random sample. That is what we have here and that is why user reviews are no more powerful and accurate than the skewed 'paid' reviews you'll see from sites like IGN, Gamespot, etc. couldn't be bothered to read the whole thread, so someone may have said this already, but... fixed. Edited February 1, 2012 by plusieurs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoupyNuggs Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 I can see it, the game is definitely average (5 being the interpretation of average here) to slightly above average. Depending on where BW takes it over the next few months, it will either remain at this level or could move into the good (7 to 8). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valgranth Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 There is a real theorem that a random variable will reflect its underlying probability over a very large sample. In this case, we're using Metacritic's user rating of 5.9: http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/star-wars-the-old-republic/user-reviews Putting 1500 random gamers to the test with SWTOR for a month and have them rate it on a scale of 1-10. You will very likely come up with an accurate measure of the game's worth based on that many reviews. That is what we have here and that is why user reviews are far more powerful and accurate than the skewed 'paid' reviews you'll see from sites like IGN, Gamespot, etc. Swtor's real score (I think its a bit high): 5.9 Let's compare to World of Warcraft: http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/world-of-warcraft-cataclysm/user-reviews Cataclysm's real score: 5.2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabjat Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 World of Warcraft: Cataclysm 5.2 ROFL! Is that the rating that Cata got from the same site>? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuuj Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 (edited) 0: Wow Clone. 0: Warcraft: The Old Republic 0: This game should have been released beside WoW. 2: Copied WoW Dayum. Some pretty professional reviews. I'm happy 1,490 players took the time to share their opinions on meta critic while the other.... million + of us are playing the game. Edited February 1, 2012 by Yuuj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevnobi Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Cataclysm has a 5.1 user rating, and Blizzard seems to really be hurting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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