pherball Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 DAoC. It's obvious TOR was not designed with PvP in mind from the beginning. I'm starting to think the PvP MMO is dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waron Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 World PvP - Persistent - Towns etcShadowbaneDarkfall Small Scale ArenaWoW Warzones None - Least of all anything Mythic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baalzamon Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Warhammer online Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wattser Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Eq2 by far-tank taunts (group make up mattered)-true open world (before battleground crap)-3 faction system- reward based on risk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasymodeX Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 It's more that people keep deluding themselves into thinking that PvE MMOs like Rift and SWTOR will have "REALLY GOOD PVP". Maybe GW2 will change that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saido Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 1) SWG2) EVE3) .... Nothing has held my attention since. SWG Pre-CU was the most compelling MMORPG I ever played with a solid community behind it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwordoftheStars Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 1. DAOC 2. EVE the rest is just not worth mentioning ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cytox Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 1. DAoC2. Warhammer3. WoW pre-BGs, roaming WPL/EPL, TM, STV and Gadgetzan For all it's faults, Warhammer was probably the best PvP game out of the current generation of MMOs. The biggest balance issue was when AP bugged out and everyone had a near infinite pool, and the fact that it took over 6 months to fix with Mythic's ridiculously long patch cycle. If they had fixed cities in a timely manner or added any new worthwhile content, I think the game would have aged better. I'm only curious as to whether it was an EA decision to maintenance mode the game after LotD or BioWare just deciding to ignore it after being handed control of Mythic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locustone Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 (edited) 1. WoW - South Shore PvP before BG's and honor system.2. UO - before they started baning people for using macros. 3. RF Online4. Call of Duty MW - Oh wait, that's not an MMO!5. SWTOR - minus the lack of diminishing returns and lag Edited January 3, 2012 by Locustone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerbak Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Warhammer was my favorite. Sadly, I tried it as it was on the downward trend. While we're on the subject, why did that game fail? I tried multiple classes across both factions and loved every minute of it. Never played a caster, though that's what they said was the big problem. Really wish it would have stayed, game was absolutely great, can't comment enough. Will miss my Ironguard and Black Orc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninaran Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Warhammer was my favorite. Sadly, I tried it as it was on the downward trend. While we're on the subject, why did that game fail? For the same reason SW:ToR PvP sucks. Released before it was ready for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aano Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 (edited) DAoC. 8-man groups were harder to fill, but the battles had so much more depth and strategy to them, that some group fights could go on for 5 minutes, whilst others would be over in seconds. And the moments where you feel the lag.. you know it's coming, then you see the zerg ahead and nothing needs to be said - your support fans out and the DD gets to work, ploughing straight into 3 Realm battle. As was said earlier in the thread, there are no tokens to farm, just kill kill kill and survive to walk away. Deathmatch arenas with insta-spawn cannot compare to world PvP. Edited January 3, 2012 by Aano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rlenk Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 swtor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darth_knine Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 DAoC. It's obvious TOR was not designed with PvP in mind from the beginning. I'm starting to think the PvP MMO is dead. Agreed, I think sadly mmo PvP is dead until people stop trying to copy WoW and start actually being creative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaronblsr Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Star trek online - Great Graphics Amazing PVP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seksi Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Daoc and of course UO....for it's time anyway. It was the first real MMO so it was all shiny and new, also was thrilling knowing every time you left town you could lose everything you had on you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vydor_HC Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 DAoC by far. Warhammer was fun too, until end game instances for captial city battles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cytox Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 (edited) Agreed, I think sadly mmo PvP is dead until people stop trying to copy WoW and start actually being creative. The PvP MMO genre isn't dead. Planetside 2 is entering beta, Battle for Prime/Dominus (whatever they're calling it) is in and out of beta, people are swearing by GW2, and there's even that Korean MMO in development, ArcheAge. Edited January 3, 2012 by Cytox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwordoftheStars Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 the whole warzone concept is just boring and gets old fast, i dont get why every new damn mmo even has this. remove this crap and give us a planet (a real planet and not a zone) with some objectivesand rewards. capable bases or something that daoc had with castles, something that affects the worldlike the artifacts. Well but i think its just a dream that will never come true .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valperion Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Lineage 2 pvp > any other mmo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostEclipse Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 (edited) DAoC was/is/always will be the best PvP/RvR out there. Unless some other game comes out with a system close to theirs which hasn't happened in 12 years so far, so it is doubtful. *sad face* Hibs ftw! (I liked the underdog >.>) Edited January 3, 2012 by GhostEclipse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seksi Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Warhammer was my favorite. Sadly, I tried it as it was on the downward trend. While we're on the subject, why did that game fail? I tried multiple classes across both factions and loved every minute of it. Never played a caster, though that's what they said was the big problem. Really wish it would have stayed, game was absolutely great, can't comment enough. Will miss my Ironguard and Black Orc. War was good enough to keep me until the last major patch that changed rvr completely. It went to crap after that along with the moronic decision to expand renown ranks to 100 along with overpowered gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seksi Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 DAoC was/is/always will be the best PvP/RvR out there. Unless some other game comes out with a system close to theirs which hasn't happened in 12 years so far, so it is doubtful. *sad face* Hibs ftw! (I liked the underdog >.>) GW2 is going to have 3 faction battlefields with keeps and all...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KretanMelithorn Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Ultima Online with DAoC is a distant second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprasz Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 DAOC no one gets near. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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