petebalaji Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 I want to see hoods with wigs options! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSeventhJedi Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 This. They dye system was intentionally made to be overly complex as to suck the most money out of already ***PAYING customer as possible. I have little to 0 hopes for this next money suck. The Cartel Market II: The Search for More Money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holocron Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 A second tab with slots that will allow you to have an alternate appearance. Also they will figure out a way to charge us either cartel coins, or credits for additional functionality and color options beyond dyes, but all at a premium. That about sums up the new designer system that is coming, and to honestly think it will be more than that in scope and intent, is just dumb headed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottoattack Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 (edited) My expectation is it will be similar to character design tab with less features and higher CC costs. It will be underwhelming, but its redeeming quality will be the ability to remove the stupid shoulder pads BW devs love and the ugly antennas and over sized back-packs, and maybe (that is a far stretch) having on/off hood option. If CC costs are low enough that the feature is not completely useless for subs without chucking real cash, that will be a win (again like charter design tab). As far as separating gear from costume, giving the player free design tools, not costing CC and/or allowing players to customize and sell on GTN it is not gonna happen. Period. BW does not have the development skill or capacity for that. Not to mention it goes against their philosophy. Keep your expectations extremely low as hope is the first step to disappointment. Remember, it is BW we are talking about. Edited February 23, 2015 by Ottoattack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XiamaraSimi Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 (edited) This is why we can't have nice things. A dev uses one word, which admittedly, has a connotation (or heck, even a denotation,) and the forums go crazy speculating how it will essentially give us complete control. When it winds up being a CM bound appearance tab, everyone is going to go crazy on the "slap in the face" and "broken promises" train. Stocking up popcorn for the emphasized part, should be -special- because it will be: if any of you really think the Outfit "Designer" will function any differently than an appearance tab tweaked to use CC's you are seriously delusional. But the delusions are sadly funny. Although not nearly as funny as the tantrums we will be buried in from those denied their pie in the sky doodad removal expectations ^_~ Edited February 23, 2015 by XiamaraSimi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthDymond Posted February 23, 2015 Author Share Posted February 23, 2015 Stocking up popcorn for the emphasized part, should be -special- because it will be: But the delusions are sadly funny. Although not nearly as funny as the tantrums we will be buried in from those denied their pie in the sky doodad removal expectations ^_~ And once again: for most people there's a difference between "Huh, I wonder if this means it will do [X]" and "I will be very disappointed / pissed if it doesn't do [X]" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthVengeant Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 (edited) I have wanted this since beta. However, If they make it a large over-charged credit or cc sink I am going to be beyond pissed. EVERYTHING else in the game already has that crap. Let us have something and enjoy it . Let us have FUN for once Bioware. Don't pull another Slot Machine episode and ruin something the majority of people enjoyed. I get tired of good things always having something to ruin them or take away from the full enjoyment of them, and Bioware seems to know how to do that all too well. Edited February 23, 2015 by DarthVengeant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewitchdoctor Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 (edited) And once again: for most people there's a difference between "Huh, I wonder if this means it will do [X]" and "I will be very disappointed / pissed if it doesn't do [X]" And as a corollary to your side-discussion, the overboard-hype train on the forums will feed into the circular logic of not giving us more information. An info-deprived vocal minority on the forums (not being derogatory; forum-posters are the minority), combined with Bioware's seemingly consistent inability to manage information and/or expectations will again result in a ZOMG[insert item here]POCALYPSE of 20[year]. I also suspect a CM-fed appearance tab and nothing more. But, frankly, if that minimizes the bum-pain of stripping mods and reaugmenting anytime and every time I upgrade a piece and/or decide to change my appearance then I, for one, will be satisfied. (although I also loathe the thought that auggie kit sales will plummet). Edited February 23, 2015 by thewitchdoctor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries_cz Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 How about we stop theorizing until more info is released. We don't want to repeat the same process here we imagine something unrealistic and then flame BioWare for making something else that is done according to their ideas, do we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipacnaa Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 So much wrong with this game, yet people get excited about making their tiny little toon look "different". shrug /not bothered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoverNoFighter Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 So much wrong with this game, yet people get excited about making their tiny little toon look "different". shrug /not bothered That's what a medicore product will do to ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korevas Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 And once again: for most people there's a difference between "Huh, I wonder if this means it will do [X]" and "I will be very disappointed / pissed if it doesn't do [X]" Sadly, this is the internet, so there is very little "I wonder if it's X?" and very much "OMG it's *definitely* X! If by any chance it turns out not to be X, EAware lied to ME and it's a spit in the face of loyal customers! I will unsub NAO!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XiamaraSimi Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 (edited) Sadly, this is the internet, so there is very little "I wonder if it's X?" and very much "OMG it's *definitely* X! If by any chance it turns out not to be X, EAware lied to ME and it's a spit in the face of loyal customers! I will unsub NAO!" After three years of playing this game, this is exactly what im expecting to happen. Too many tantrums have happened because peoples pie in the sky expectations werent met. Edited February 23, 2015 by XiamaraSimi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korevas Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 After three years of playing this game, this is exactly what im expecting to happen. Too many tantrums have happened because peoples pie in the sky expectations werent met. Absolutely. Although in this particular case, if it turns out to be just a slightly overhauled collection system with appearance slots at most, at least some part of the blame does have to fall to the guy who called it "outfit *designer*" of all things in the first place. I mean it's not like they couldn't have known this would build up unrealistic expectations if they just threw the name out there with no info whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoraan Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Absolutely. Although in this particular case, if it turns out to be just a slightly overhauled collection system with appearance slots at most, at least some part of the blame does have to fall to the guy who called it "outfit *designer*" of all things in the first place. I mean it's not like they couldn't have known this would build up unrealistic expectations if they just threw the name out there with no info whatsoever. "Galactic Conquest" A feature's name is hardly a good indicator of how it's going to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrr_hypernova Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Absolutely. Although in this particular case, if it turns out to be just a slightly overhauled collection system with appearance slots at most, at least some part of the blame does have to fall to the guy who called it "outfit *designer*" of all things in the first place. I mean it's not like they couldn't have known this would build up unrealistic expectations if they just threw the name out there with no info whatsoever. Why its outfit designer not gear designer and allowing you to have a appearance tab separate from stats does alow you to make an outfit. In no scenario is thinking we're going to be able to edit the individual gear parts realistic or suportted by reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max_Killjoy Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 The most we can hope for at this point is that the new "designer" doesn't interfere with the current appearances and gear, or make things even worse in cutscenes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElZaguero Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 It's amusing to come back to SWTOR after being away for a while, and contrast these forums with the others where I have spent the last year. I was playing, (MMO based on another popular space opera, originally begun with a 60's television show. Think Split Infinitives), and seriously, folks, we have it good here. Bioware, (even the shambling zombie thereof which remains since being possessed by EA), treats the SWTOR community really quite well compared to certain others who shall remain nameless. Every MMO has its warts, and we live in an age in which all major MMO devs are getting greedy with the micro, (except they're no longer so micro), transactions. The F2P concept is a horribly loathsome thing, which has bastardized and prostituted online gaming to a wretched extent, but there's no avoiding it unless you want to play (MMO named for a woman who figures prominently in the Book of Genesis). And that's just too hardcore for me, (although I invested huge amounts of time and a fair bit of cash before realizing that). Bashing Bioware in this context is just not realistic, when they are in fact one of the more ethical and better-behaved MMO companies to be found in the first tier. tl;dr - Bioware is not that bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUXs Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 So much wrong with this game, yet people get excited about making their tiny little toon look "different". shrug /not bothered Some people are so addicted that they're unable to see anything wrong with the game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoom_VI Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Some people are so addicted that they're unable to see anything wrong with the game... And others are so embittered that they cannot see anything good with the game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUXs Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 And others are so embittered that they cannot see anything good with the game... Of course there are...but they seldom last long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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