Urael Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Someone should make a thread asking all of the current Bioware Staff to sign if they are still working. Not like that won't get close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williambr Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 With hundreds if not thousands of doomsayers waiting in the shadows to post, you would think the DOC's would have taken a more professional route, rather than posting on the forums. Not saying they where not sincere, but an utterly dumb time to post this. Of course, if it turns out to make players think that their crying got results, maybe it will prove a successful tactic. I.E. Thread topics "No swimming in TOR got millions of bioware employees laid off" or "Haha, you nerfed healers, now the players are nerfing your paychecks". Horrible examples, but since I've already seen threads popping up where people try to relate layoffs to their particular wants in game, I think its rather valid. Sorry for the people that got laid off. Now, what are you going to do to get subs up, to get people rehired? Its gonna take some serious thought, and I don't think legacy perks are going to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overtone Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Could be the access fat from the original development that they no longer need, seems every MMO development team goes through this. OR it could be they needed to cut the people that suck...which I hope this one is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
furiousferret Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 It takes a lot more developers to 'develop' a game than to maintain it. I dont think this is out of the ordinary for any company and isn't exactly a sign of doom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jett-Rinn Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 With hundreds if not thousands of doomsayers waiting in the shadows to post, you would think the DOC's would have taken a more professional route, rather than posting on the forums. Not saying they where not sincere, but an utterly dumb time to post this. Of course, if it turns out to make players think that their crying got results, maybe it will prove a successful tactic. I.E. Thread topics "No swimming in TOR got millions of bioware employees laid off" or "Haha, you nerfed healers, now the players are nerfing your paychecks". Horrible examples, but since I've already seen threads popping up where people try to relate layoffs to their particular wants in game, I think its rather valid. Sorry for the people that got laid off. Now, what are you going to do to get subs up, to get people rehired? Its gonna take some serious thought, and I don't think legacy perks are going to do it. Bioware is big on providing the stage for those that hate them no matter what. Why that is, is anyone's guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Ron Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 WOW Layoff's that sucks. I guess that the Community is really speaking, give us what we want or we stop playing and paying. LOOK SWG all over again you did in 7 mouths what took them 7 years Kill a game. Two thumbs way up. with a smile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trenter Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Could be the access fat from the original development that they no longer need, seems every MMO development team goes through this. OR it could be they needed to cut the people that suck...which I hope this one is true. If this was about normal downsizing of a development team post launch, I don't think they would've made a post about it. If this was about "replacing" people who didn't do their jobs well enough, same situation. I don't think they would've made a post. I'm far from being an expert on things like this. Honestly I know very little about it. But to me this sounds like trouble. I usually try to stay on the positive side of things, but to answer the OP's question, I don't think this'll be good for content. I really feel for the people losing their jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SketchieGambit Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 I feel bad for the people, I've been in the similar situation, so I can sympathise. I feel absolutley nothing but disgust for the management level, even when mmos have the greatest community support of any videogame genre, they couldn't work with the players and give them the proper QA and customer support. Business sense is a euphamism for ignorant, opertunistic greed, dressed in a suit, sporting a fake smile, if you can fake it well enough, people call it being proffessional. You can't mask that no matter how many insinere press releases you put out to kid yourself you are in touch with the community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felioats Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 What does it mean for content? There will be less. No way to avoid that. I had been confident in this game, but my confidence just plummeted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williambr Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 WOW Layoff's that sucks. I guess that the Community is really speaking, give us what we want or we stop playing and paying. LOOK SWG all over again you did in 7 mouths what took them 7 years Kill a game. Two thumbs way up. with a smile Can I borrow your rose tinted glasses for this weekend, I'm going to the bar and I want to take home a fake ten. Seriously, SWG died 6 months after launch when its subs dropped from 1 mill plus to 200k, they reacted(badly in my opinion) and really kicked up the fail with more epic nge fail, but it was a failed mmo period. Don't get me wrong lol, I'm a fail, and played it and loved it for 4 years, but I never thought of it as a major blockbuster success in the gaming world. Even if they only have 200k subs, swtor will be around for along time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drobu Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 ...and this update from massively [update: SWTOR Community Manager Stephen Reid has today changed his LinkedIn page indicating that his tenure with the studio ended in May 2012, suggesting that he might be one of those affected by these layoffs. We'll keep you posted as we learn more.] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muskaan Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 ...and this update from massively [update: SWTOR Community Manager Stephen Reid has today changed his LinkedIn page indicating that his tenure with the studio ended in May 2012, suggesting that he might be one of those affected by these layoffs. We'll keep you posted as we learn more.] Really sorry to hear that. Was a nice chap. Hope he finds better opportunity elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trenter Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 ...and this update from massively [update: SWTOR Community Manager Stephen Reid has today changed his LinkedIn page indicating that his tenure with the studio ended in May 2012, suggesting that he might be one of those affected by these layoffs. We'll keep you posted as we learn more.] Really, really sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDiggy Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 SWTOR: December 20, 2011-May 22, 2012 Rest In Peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jett-Rinn Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Really sorry to hear that. Was a nice chap. Hope he finds better opportunity elsewhere. Yeah he was very active on Google plus and always had time to answer questions, it's sad to see him go. I just hope his replacement can handle the TORchan forum community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarjarloves Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 SWTOR: December 20, 2011-May 22, 2012 Rest In Peace to put things in perspective Blizzard fired 600 employes in Feb http://www.gamespot.com/news/blizzard-laying-off-600-6360584 As much as you hate this game it's still going on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muskaan Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 to put things in perspective Blizzard fired 600 employes in Feb http://www.gamespot.com/news/blizzard-laying-off-600-6360584 As much as you hate this game it's still going on WoW isnt 6 months old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velgar Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Maybe they laid off those people so they could bring in people that know how to program automated server transfers? Or maybe they laid them off to bring in people with experience in converting a subscription based MMO to a free to play MMO. The suits at EA may have already decided that is the only way to produce the return they had planned on from the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williambr Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 (edited) Who isn't laying off nowaday's? Edit-apparently the unemployment office hasn't laid anyone off in 7 years. Wonder why they are so busy... Edited May 22, 2012 by williambr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odyssean Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 I am very sad and want to express my sympathies to all the people that lost their jobs, and wish they find a better and more secure job elsewhere. However, i hope that some of the terrible decision makers were included in this restructure, it was their fault that TOR seems to be sinking. Lets hope for the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theninjafuzz Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 WoW isnt 6 months old. BioWare also didn't fire 600 people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarjarloves Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 WoW isnt 6 months old. no but Diablo 3 wasn't even out and they fired 60 people from the development team. Also what does being an older game have to do with firing 600 employees? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oredith Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 ...and this update from massively [update: SWTOR Community Manager Stephen Reid has today changed his LinkedIn page indicating that his tenure with the studio ended in May 2012, suggesting that he might be one of those affected by these layoffs. We'll keep you posted as we learn more.] this has EA's fingerprints all over it. some shots needed to be fired, but apparently someone placed the gun in EA's hands, and they just randomly picked the biggest target. -_- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkulous Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 to put things in perspective Blizzard fired 600 employes in Feb http://www.gamespot.com/news/blizzard-laying-off-600-6360584 As much as you hate this game it's still going on Blizzard's firings are different. WoW will jump back up to 12+ mill with MoP. They made a business decision that is unfortunately made too often in our world. Those employees were tenured employees and the people who Blizz will hire in their place will be paid starting salaries. For TOR to fire employees this soon after launch is a bit different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Ravenhurst Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 (edited) Hire the guys who invented the original Star Wars Galaxies for Yoda's sake, make TOR a good game please! Just trash the corridor planet concept and do it the SWG way for lvl 50-100. And add JTL plus housing where those damn exhaustion zones are! THERE WERE NO EXHAUSTION ZONES IN SWG, A TEN YEAR OLD GAME, WHEN PLANETS USED TO HAVE THE SIZE AND FEEL OF PLANETS AND DAY / NIGHT CHANGE. Edited May 22, 2012 by Lord_Ravenhurst Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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