This is called the "height of optimism".

Even GW2 doesnt have DX11 support yet. And it's supposed to be a modern cutting-edge MMO.

EQ2 /10char

Being robbed, lied to and cheated on are very much part of the "Star Wars" experience. So, deal with it.

Q: Can a f2p player upgrade to a p2p player if he wants? Q: If yes, will he get a refund on all things he bought as f2p since now as a p2p member, he gets those things by default anyways? Q. What happens to all his p2p unique stuff when he goes back to f2p again ?

Source ? /10char

None of the haters were advocating f2p model as well. All they wanted was that their 15$ a month be better worth it-- which wasnt for most of them. E.g. repeated bugs which never gets resolved, multiple maintenance downtimes every week, poor customer support, lack of end game -- just to list a few grievances. They just wanted EA to fix those issues so that it's till worth paying $15 a month for it. Instead, EA compromised. ""SWTOR is a miss". We can't invest further into improving all those things that makes it a miss. So, we will make it F2P so that people don't have to deal with getting $15 worth of buggy stuff.

So each content update will cost something extra to buy even for paid subs? Or only for f2p players?

Well, it's still over 9000!

No. Probably the p2p guys will have what they already have right now. The f2p guys will only get a subset of that. e.g. fewer hair style.

Hardly. Not a dev issue at all. It's poor management and business and design decision. Marketing came up with the wrong features for the design team to focus on. Devs have very little to do it since they come way down the pecking order in decision making.

That's because they don't play their own game. If they did, they would have known why it trashed. It started with Gordon Walton choosing Hero Engine and then quitting a year before SWTOR release. Ended with Rich Vogel following suit.

http://www.darthhater.com/articles/swtor-news/21125-electronic-arts-q1-fy13-earnings-call

How will forum access work? I suppose people who are f2p wont get forum write/post access and will get it read_only?

The F2P announcement right at this point is a trap to distract us from the EA call and the actual sub numbers.

Lucas doesn't give a damn. I also think Mr Lucas had bigger disasters with the 3 prequels than BW did with SWTOR.

EA has to answer more for BF3's disaster compared to Activisions product to their investors. It's a way bigger disaster than SWTOR. EA will also probably blabber about the new SimCity and how it's going to be their salvation and how it is going to be the biggest thing to happen to gaming since Doom. I dont expect to see more than a couple of lines on SWTOR.

Unless you are crazy, you can't cheat on one of these Investor calls. How they define sub numbers is upto them. But they need to report as per their definition exactly and cant bloat those.

Never said this game is god's gift to MMOs. Was just saying that GW2 is not the second coming as many appears to think it is. If you really, really want to PvP on a skill basis, play SC2 or LOL.

if you study about the game a bit and read about the known elite skills and use a trait calculator, it becomes blindly obvious which healing, elite and utility skills you will pick given your primary weapon choice. Google search is your buddy. There are already people theoricrafting various classes and coming up with pretty much cookie cutter builds.

Obvious trait builds is as Obvious. At level 80, everything is cookie cutter including trait builds, elite skill and weapon choice. Only a few weapons are viable in PvP anyways. Rest are junk. When you run into a warrior with a specific weapon in PvP, you can like read him miles off. You know exactly what he is going to do since you know one thing is possible with his weapon anyways. If he weapon swaps to new combo, you know that combo too. You can either counter him (if you are a profession and spec that can counter him) or run away if you know that he is your counter class. Everything is so blatantly obvious. Nothing to see in GW2. Move along.

In legal terms-- speculative and hence move to strike.

No, GW1 had a better setup. You used 8 buttons, yes. But you could pick your build and choose your 8 from a collection of like 140 skills. In GW2 if you say want to go greatsword on your warrior, you are forced to use the same 5 buttons. No exceptions.

Facts when outdated have no meaning to current discussion. Posted numbers in this thread is outdated. Please re-read the doc. Thanks.

EVENT DATE/TIME: MAY 07, 2012 / 09:00PM GMT So, that's outdated info.