Lord_Karsk Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 (edited) First you killed open PvP now warzones. You have become death, the destroyer of "MMOs" Players can no longer lvl up doing PvP. Little to no rewards for PvP. Even bigger class unbalance after 1.2. Players dying way to fast now in wz. PvP is now a grind from hell getting commendations and credits. On servers were one faction rule wz just like the fail 1.1 patch the stronger faction will again gear up faster and steamroll the other faction. Players just leave now any wz that they think they will lose. Sad fact is you PvP developers in charge dont have a clue what you are doing. So tonight i logged out way early because PvP was all i had left in this game and now you killed that last joy aswell. You know there is a reason why so many players have left your game,and still you do the same mistakes over and over again.I guess some people never learn. Edited April 13, 2012 by Lord_Karsk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackhumbug Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 You have become death, the destroyer of "MMOs" nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photoshop Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 First you killed open PvP now warzones. You have become death, the destroyer of "MMOs" Players can no longer lvl up doing PvP. Little to no rewards for PvP. Even bigger class unbalance after 1.2. Players dying way to fast now in wz. PvP is no a grind from hell getting commendations and credits. On servers were one faction rule wz just like the fail 1.1 patch the stronger faction will again gear up faster and steamroll the other faction. Players just leave now any wz that they think they will lose. Sad fact is you PvP developers in charge dont have a clue what you are doing. So tonight i logged out way early because PvP was all i had left in this game and now you killed that last joy aswell. You know there is a reason why so many players have left your game,and still you do the same mistakes over and over again.I guess some people never learn. Looks like someone got owned in pvp and needed to cry about it here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCBull Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Why can't you level anymore? No xp for a loss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt_Latency Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 (edited) It's true, they messed up pretty bad. When you go up against a pre-made or join a game 1/2 way threw your were pissed but "Hey at least you got some quick exp" So it's not all bad. Now when you get nothing from it. It's much much worse and makes you more frustrated. Not having the requirments scale based on TIME in warzone or how well your team did as a whole was very bad planning. I don't even want to know what it's like for people on low population servers who don't start with even teams. How could they not see this comming? Edited April 13, 2012 by Lt_Latency Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarfux Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 ok...ok...how exactly did they KILL pvp...cause I am pwning like there is no tomorrow!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackardin Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Gonna come as a surprise to everyone.....but people are still out there PvPing thier proverbial butts off. People are also still having fun playing the game. It is only here, on these very boards that pain and despair are the order of the day. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roechacca Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Lets just hope they fix it. Before I get another infraction lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickRedOne Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 So now you have to WORK to get something out of PVP? Wow I think that's great! No more just showing up, standing around (hopping you don't get flagged for AFK), and getting rewards. I might just look into doing some PVP now.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DkayUK Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 ok...ok...how exactly did they KILL pvp...cause I am pwning like there is no tomorrow!!! im guessing thats coz your a sentinal or a marauder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCBull Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Give them another month to catch us 2 month war heros... They will be sick to death too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidpop Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Gonna come as a surprise to everyone.....but people are still out there PvPing thier proverbial butts off. People are also still having fun playing the game. It is only here, on these very boards that pain and despair are the order of the day. LOL I am havnig fun actually, i dont feel nerfed or anything. But that does not make the new comendation system allright, at all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Karsk Posted April 13, 2012 Author Share Posted April 13, 2012 So now you have to WORK to get something out of PVP? Wow I think that's great! No more just showing up, standing around (hopping you don't get flagged for AFK), and getting rewards. I might just look into doing some PVP now.... Yeah try to actually play the game, maybe then you will actually understand and not just troll the forum users who actually have a clue and who plays competetive. And no now players who play well and do their best dont get anything if the team lose. Btw read the pvp forum and understand the entire pvp community hate the changes. Only the singel player pve heroes who is defending them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostvein Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 I might get full War Hero in another 6 months or so at the current rate. Nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShatteredVision Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 You know why I'm not grinding out pvp gear on my mains (aside from having had to reroll on Fatman)? Because in a month all the casuals and PvErs in sheep's clothing will have QQed to the point that gear will no longer require any effort to obtain again. Fool me once, shame on you... Not about to put in endless hours for gear that will be given away by the next patch. I enjoy this game...but I do so with the knowledge that it's completely ridiculous and getting more laughable by the moment. During this crapstorm of maintenance, I have been able to do nothing but laugh. I haven't decided whether I'm laughing at BW or myself. Sad state of affairs. No, I'm not quitting. And, that's the problem. I couldn't give you a single concrete reason why I'm sticking around. I do so in defiance of all logic. The devs are clearly inept. It's a great mystery to me. I have no loyalty to star wars or bioware, so I'm sure the breaking point will come sooner or later - once the ridiculousness of it all has had time to fester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boiled_owl Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 So now you have to WORK to get something out of PVP? Wow I think that's great! No more just showing up, standing around (hopping you don't get flagged for AFK), and getting rewards. I might just look into doing some PVP now.... Warzones are a team effort, rewards are individual. If and individual perform well but as a whole, the team fails, individual receives no reward. Just like in real life. Except, this is not real life. This is not High School Football. This is SWTOR. If the only way you can gear up via pvp is by relying on AT LEAST 4 strangers to perform well AND have good enough gear (because expertise > skill) to beat the other team what is your incentive to hang around for a loss? No comms = no gear. It is wasted time. There is literally no incentive. If you want to waste your time because you are stubborn, that's cool. Go ahead and do that. This would be a fine system for ranked warzones with 8 man queue's, Teamspeak, and coordination. As it stands now, it's basically encouraging people to bail the second something goes wrong. Based on your post, you seem woefully ignorant of PvP, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naubolus Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Is it just me or that players no longer get 3 armaments per war zone, win or lose? If that's the case, how is the armaments rewarded or do we all have to do Ilum again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonewild Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Warzones are a team effort, rewards are individual. If and individual perform well but as a whole, the team fails, individual receives no reward. Just like in real life. Except, this is not real life. This is not High School Football. This is SWTOR. If the only way you can gear up via pvp is by relying on AT LEAST 4 strangers to perform well AND have good enough gear (because expertise > skill) to beat the other team what is your incentive to hang around for a loss? No comms = no gear. It is wasted time. There is literally no incentive. If you want to waste your time because you are stubborn, that's cool. Go ahead and do that. This would be a fine system for ranked warzones with 8 man queue's, Teamspeak, and coordination. As it stands now, it's basically encouraging people to bail the second something goes wrong. Based on your post, you seem woefully ignorant of PvP, anyway. Thread winner! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostvein Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Warzones are a team effort, rewards are individual. If and individual perform well but as a whole, the team fails, individual receives no reward. Just like in real life. Except, this is not real life. This is not High School Football. This is SWTOR. If the only way you can gear up via pvp is by relying on AT LEAST 4 strangers to perform well AND have good enough gear (because expertise > skill) to beat the other team what is your incentive to hang around for a loss? No comms = no gear. It is wasted time. There is literally no incentive. If you want to waste your time because you are stubborn, that's cool. Go ahead and do that. This would be a fine system for ranked warzones with 8 man queue's, Teamspeak, and coordination. As it stands now, it's basically encouraging people to bail the second something goes wrong. Based on your post, you seem woefully ignorant of PvP, anyway. I thought you still got coms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViperI Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Gonna come as a surprise to everyone.....but people are still out there PvPing thier proverbial butts off. People are also still having fun playing the game. It is only here, on these very boards that pain and despair are the order of the day. LOL you must not read general chat on the fleet if you think these complaints are limited to forum posters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawning Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 im guessing thats coz your a sentinal or a marauder I'd say he's just an idiot, has to be some sort of physical pain associated with these people being as ignorant as they are. Would be slightly unfair if it didn't hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zekeiele Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 After winning 6-7 games in a row the rewards seem fine for the winners...not sure how much longer the player that lost those WZs are going to keep Qing with nothing to show for it..I didn't see any lack of effort on their side some actually played very well...I like having fast Qs so please do something to even out the rewards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overtone Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 (edited) First you killed open PvP now warzones. You have become death, the destroyer of "MMOs" Players can no longer lvl up doing PvP. Little to no rewards for PvP. Even bigger class unbalance after 1.2. Players dying way to fast now in wz. PvP is now a grind from hell getting commendations and credits. On servers were one faction rule wz just like the fail 1.1 patch the stronger faction will again gear up faster and steamroll the other faction. Players just leave now any wz that they think they will lose. Pretty much my comments I left them while unsubing. But I also mentioned they bumped the price of the pre-50 PvP gear while lowering rewards. What a fan-***********-tastic idea!! I thought you still got coms? Take Hutt Ball for example. If your team doesn't score you only get XP. No matter how many medals you get, you get nothing except XP if your team doesn't score. I lost in a tight 1-0 game and just got XP at the end. Pretty much a waste of time. Edited April 13, 2012 by Overtone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShiroRX Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 The changes to rewards seemed fine when weighed against the idea that ppl who really wanted to try would've been queuing for rated. But they took out rated and left all the rules as they were designed with rated in the equation. It's comical, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MightyHalo Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 I think they saved PVP and the game with 1.2. Better than ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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