Khevar Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 (edited) Relics account for a large portion of DPS Only if you go from No relic to Having a relic. The difference between a 216 -> 220 relic or a 216 -> 224 relic is very very little. Shoot, the difference between a single 208 -> 224 relic is small enough that you'd probably only notice it with a 2.5 million hp ops dummy parse. And only then if you're already a good player with a solid grasp of your rotation / priority list. Edited August 9, 2016 by Khevar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherJohn Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 for those that say this is a reason to complete all 16 on another character because oooohhhhh 224 i have to say NOPE NOT GONNA DO IT. why well simply because you can do this entire chapter story content stuff in pvp 204 un augmented gear. thats how easy it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DenariusJay Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 Not seeing why this is a big deal? You weren't forced to slug through hours of making a group and enduring hours of wipes to get a 224 piece. Instead, you were forced to slug through something much worse, the KOTFE expansion.... Yeah, don't see what the big deal is myself...hell we should get an entire set of 224 -_- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btmart Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 (edited) This relic is not that significant in terms of whats dropped in HM Operations. Do a little research before going off on this 224 relic. The 220 Seredipitous Assault and Focused Retribution relics are still better than this relic, and same goes for the tanking relic. It just offers sort-of a serendipitous assault type relic without the crit stat (yes I know there is a crit chance bonus), and not even half the power bonus. Same analogy can be applied to the tanking relic. If you've got 220 token relics, this is a **** drop comparatively. Hell, maybe even 216. For comparison: Relic of the Eternal Combatant (Item Rating 224) +203 Endurance +77 Power Equip: Healing an ally or performing a damaging attack on an enemy both have a 30% chance to grant 413 Power and Critical Rating for 6 seconds. This effect can only occur once every 20 seconds. -------------------- Exarch Relic of Serendipitous Assault (Item Rating 220) +177 Endurance +73 Power +42 Crit Equip: Healing an ally or performing a damaging attack on an enemy both have a 30% chance to grant 945 Power for 6 seconds. This effect can only occur once every 20 seconds. -------------------- Ultimate Exarch Relic of Serendipitous Assault (Item Rating 224) +186 Endurance +77 Power +44 Crit Equip: Healing an ally or performing a damaging attack on an enemy both have a 30% chance to grant 966 Power for 6 seconds. This effect can only occur once every 20 seconds. Yeah, I'd take the 220 over this any day. Endurance won't matter at all really. And you only get one of these. No one that is serious about gearing will be using this if they are doing operations gear grinding. Maybe only in the short term, which is long enough to get something better. Edited August 9, 2016 by btmart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerSchneider Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 Not sure what team your on, but they take more then that. You have to know your rotation, mechanics and more then kinimum gear. Maybe your thinking of storymode. I play swtor since release and ofc I was thinking about storymode Learning rotation requires only if you bought a 60 lvl token and don't have a clue how to play. As for mechanics, there was a time when even storymore ops weren't like a walk in a park. Still, the vast majority of ops mechanics is "don't stand in voidzones" and "kill adds". Unfortunately not all people are capable of doing even this. Perhaps that's what you call "advanced mechanics". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobs_YourUncle Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 Both my 208 pvp relic, and 216 relics seem about the same as the 224 accounting for the augment. I must be missing something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andryah Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 Replacing a single relic with a 224 is going to account for an increase that is so minor, it will hardly be noticed in actual gameplay. Of all the things one could get worked up about in this game, this belongs at the "mostly irrelevant" level. ^^ Indeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunafox Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 (edited) Getting that relic was the one consolation prize out of the whole thing. I really doubt it's going to tip the galaxy and make it wonky, it's one piece. Probably the only piece of 224 I'll ever have until they up the lvl req and upgrade all the equipment again. I feel like...I didn't get to kill Arkan after the big build up. I didn't get to kill his traitorous mom. I didn't get to kill Koth. My ship was stolen...I lost the fleet. Lost companions in the whole deal, cause no more Scorpio and no more Senya. This last chapter made me feel really empty inside. Even though the romance was nice at the start, by the end of it, it felt like Theron was mad at my character and that left me sad too. Not even a warm letter to cheer me up. The relic was the only thing that made me feel a bit good. *covets and hisses* It's mine! *snakey tongue* Preciousssss. Edited August 9, 2016 by Lunafox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshlaBoga Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 Yeah, looks like the so-called 224 relic is actually inferior to the 220 Ops/craftable relic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AH-Mael Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 It may say 224 but I would be hard pressed to want to swap out a 216 for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halinalle Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 (edited) Even 212s are better. Though 30% chance for 413 crit rating for 6 seconds every 20 seconds is nice. http://imgur.com/a/9ZwH2 It's useless compared to 216+ ops relics. Getting 216 isn't even that difficult because only few people actually roll for those. Sometimes nobody wants a relic and it gets randomed. Edited August 9, 2016 by Halinalle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_plankskull Posted August 9, 2016 Author Share Posted August 9, 2016 I guess for the time being I'm over it now, but I just hope that since we gave them a inch, that they won't be going to take a mile and include a 224 variant better than HM or even SM operations in the main story content if the difficulty remains as is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tummiswtor Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 Ohh i got 224 rate Relic! Now i must get another 224 parts from old OPSes ^ That's how it's work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holocron Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 Seriously Bioware... you're literally giving people a relic of 224 after finishing the expansion? It's not the same as operation gear of course, but gives power and critical, but still.... why Bioware... no one needs anything outside of a brain and 208 blue gear to do your game. It's because they are increasing the level cap to 70 in the new expansion dropping at Christmas, and 224 gear will only be slightly higher than starting gear in the expansion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demotivator Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 It's because they are increasing the level cap to 70 in the new expansion Source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tummiswtor Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 Every expansion bring level cap + it has been long time we stay on 65. If KotET will be expansion like Revan/Hutt we will get level cap. I hope this will be expansion with new group contents, and it won't be next X or XX chapter solo story only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celise Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 a 224 relic and not a very good one, a 220 relic from an ops has more value to be honest and even a glowing crystal vendor relic provides better stats even though you have to use it instead of it triggering automatically during the fights like the ones from ops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haruen Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 One piece of gear that's a Relic. Why not? Ah, because you'd have to sub for a month and play the content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightSaberAddiCt Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 Not sure what the issue is, I got the relic, it is junk. I have a crafted blue relic that has better stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benmas Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 they actually did that? not played (and not going to play it) so wouldn't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Knight Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 Seriously Bioware... you're literally giving people a relic of 224 after finishing the expansion? It's not the same as operation gear of course, but gives power and critical, but still.... why Bioware... no one needs anything outside of a brain and 208 blue gear to do your game. I hate to say it bro, but you had all the hate coming for this post. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUXs Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 Can it be RE'd and learned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightSaberAddiCt Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 Can it be RE'd and learned? not even worth it tux, it is crap with a 224 label. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyraineAlei Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 Ohh i got 224 rate Relic! Now i must get another 224 parts from old OPSes ^ That's how it's work. I was going to post something like this, but tummiswtor got here first. And the relic (from the reading) isn't that great, it is only one relic so HM/NiM/Whatever Ops will still have to be ran to get a decent 224 set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transcendent Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 I actually did the whole thing in my pvp set. Same. I literally have no use for the PvE relic, shame I can't sell on the GTN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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