wezli Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 sorry to repost again i've seen SOOO many threads about this i know, but i was wondering if there has been any developer response to this at all? i havnt seen anything in the dev trackers not sure if this is just a problem for the bastion server or if it is going on in all the servers? Not sure if this is working as intended or maybe its just me qq'ing about it because i find it annoying. Just curious what can be done about it because i think if they put a major debuff of some sort on the leaver then who will que for the next warzone? we have to wait for a warzone as is ,not on peak hours, so maybe a buff to people to who stay the whole match maybe? But that could lead to afking again in warzones which is just as bad if not worse. Any new ideas or maybe i could just suck it up and qq to myself I just find it a little annoying and i can't get geared very steadily because of the constant loses.. thanks for your time and as always flame on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistols Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 (edited) Sadly there is nothing that can be done. If they implemented any type of debuff, the leavers would simply just sit at a node and go AFK. By the same token, I don't disagree with leaving WZ's, as sometimes you get peeps who completely ignore objectives, and make it miserable for those trying to win. The coin indeed has 2 sides. Either way, I don't see any change to the mechanics that would curb the issue, it's just one of those things. Edited September 19, 2012 by Pistols Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wezli Posted September 19, 2012 Author Share Posted September 19, 2012 thank you for the reply and for your point of view.. guess i'll just have to suck it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neoforcer Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 (edited) The only reply is that they made 1.4 back fill warzone when player leave faster so you will always have more player's replaced then one's that leave. Edited September 19, 2012 by Neoforcer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallifrayen Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 There should be a punishment for leaving. Players that always leave if its not going their way are the people complaining at 50 that pvp is too hard blah blah gear too big a factor. Gear is a lot smaller factor than knowing how to play, not ever battleground is going to go your way even if you're in a pre-made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cycao Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Sadly there is nothing that can be done. If they implemented any type of debuff, the leavers would simply just sit at a node and go AFK. By the same token, I don't disagree with leaving WZ's, as sometimes you get peeps who completely ignore objectives, and make it miserable for those trying to win. The coin indeed has 2 sides. Either way, I don't see any change to the mechanics that would curb the issue, it's just one of those things. I mainly agree with this. I would think a debuff would cause more harm than good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letallis Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 To be honest sometimes my graphics card does a nose dive when I get in a WZ. I'd hate to get punished cause i had to reboot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dev Post AllisonBerryman Posted September 21, 2012 Dev Post Share Posted September 21, 2012 Hey everyone! I talked to Senior PvP Designer Rob Hinkle about the issue of players leaving normal Warzones. This is something that's important to us, and if we introduce any changes to the system, we want to make sure we do it right. To that end, we're considering several options, like applying the deserter debuff we have for Ranked (or another penalty for leaving) or the possibility of additional incentives to stay in the Warzone. We'll keep you updated on any changes and appreciate your feedback! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FourTwent Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Hey everyone! I talked to Senior PvP Designer Rob Hinkle about the issue of players leaving normal Warzones. This is something that's important to us, and if we introduce any changes to the system, we want to make sure we do it right. To that end, we're considering several options, like applying the deserter debuff we have for Ranked (or another penalty for leaving) or the possibility of additional incentives to stay in the Warzone. We'll keep you updated on any changes and appreciate your feedback! holy smokes, they posted in the pvp forums. something is wrong here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jibboo Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Incentives to stay in the WZ would be preferred. We don't need any more reasons not to queue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cycao Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 holy smokes, they posted in the pvp forums. something is wrong here Good maybe this will help tone down these "warzone quitter" posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apaolo Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Applying a debuff won't fix anything, as was explained earlier in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alvantes Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Incentives to stay in the WZ would be preferred. We don't need any more reasons not to queue. And I don't want a debuff when I get rooted from some kind of glitch (cloned and couldn't make my character move last night:) then have to sit out of wz for 15 minutes or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksidechemist Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 pro quitters are awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FourTwent Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Good maybe this will help tone down these "warzone quitter" posts. lol, i've tried reporting these, and gear > skill threads as duplicates. they dont care, as long as it's not in the general forum it's like anything goes. Applying a debuff won't fix anything, as was explained earlier in this thread. well, now they can't be bothered reading actual constructive suggestions and comments in their own forums can they? i certainly wouldn't expect them to actually start doing work did you see their last 'community roundup' blog post? lol they picked the most random threads and the quoted posts weren't even interesting at all! again they just went random with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soljin Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Incentives to stay in the WZ would be preferred. We don't need any more reasons not to queue. Agreed...Make it worth sticking with it....Seriously need to get away from penalty systems in games...It is supposed to be fun after all. A debuff wont effect me in the slightest but if it in any way discourages people from queue'ing then its bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apaolo Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 I'm sure many will enjoy getting a debuff from leaving a WZ when they are perma rooted and perma stun'd, you know, that bug that has been around for so many months that hasn't yet to be fixed. Or from the random disconnect issue the game throws at people. Brickwalls can be rough though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alvantes Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 I'm sure many will enjoy getting a debuff from leaving a WZ when they are perma rooted and perma stun'd, you know, that bug that has been around for so many months that hasn't yet to be fixed. Or from the random disconnect issue the game throws at people. Brickwalls can be rough though. /agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dego-harmonium Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 (edited) When we can kick the two chuckleheads i get every 2nd match like this guy http://imgur.com/uZJfe who are wearing bad pve gear and no recruit rocking a cool 13khp, then we can have a deserter buff, if im solo queing, and i see 3 players with 13-14k health 3 more with 15-17k and maybe 2 warhero's, unless the other team is teribad or geared worse its a loss and since i value my time i leave old screenie but still one of my fav's Edited September 21, 2012 by dego-harmonium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pvtcarnage Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 I'm sure many will enjoy getting a debuff from leaving a WZ when they are perma rooted and perma stun'd, you know, that bug that has been around for so many months that hasn't yet to be fixed. Or from the random disconnect issue the game throws at people. Brickwalls can be rough though. Been playing PvP since launch and only been dropped 3 times, never had these other issues. Giving incentives to stay will not stop them from dropping, a penalty might. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apaolo Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 When we can kick the two chuckleheads i get every 2nd match like this guy http://imgur.com/uZJfe who are wearing bad pve gear and no recruit rocking a cool 13khp, then we can have a deserter buff old screenie but still one of my fav's Ha got a ton of those myself. 2 Days ago was in a match with someone with 300 expertise, I asked why no Recruit, and the answer was... "Expertise caps around 500". I left the match, when I realized this person was with a 4 man pre-made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cybridwarform Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Incentives to stay in the WZ would be preferred. We don't need any more reasons not to queue. ^ this. I rather leave a WZ than put up with 2 guys AFK node farming. 1 guy constantly rushing mid. 4 guys defending a node from 1 guy whos half dead. The 3 people who sit wondering what to do next after an enemy node has been cleared. The guy who is PVPing naked. (literally) I left that one as soon as i saw the doors open and he didn't put his gear on and was just running around with a weapon. Why would i want to waste my time assisting bads when its obvious its a fail? I rather have a good reason to stay and not a reason to not bother queing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groncho Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 I still can't understand why I should be forced to stay with a group that is not a group and not objective focused. There's no reason to be punished for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchangelLBC Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 My only concern is that for some reason I seem to have about one disconnect a night. My guild jokes that I have a requisite DC a night when raiding, and if not raiding it inevitably happens in one warzone a night too. This makes me mad enough without having to suffer through some sort of penalty for "leaving". Unless you guys can differentiate between a disconnect and an actual request to leave the warzone, but currently ranked penalizes you the same either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostuka Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Hey everyone! I talked to Senior PvP Designer Rob Hinkle about the issue of players leaving normal Warzones. This is something that's important to us, and if we introduce any changes to the system, we want to make sure we do it right. To that end, we're considering several options, like applying the deserter debuff we have for Ranked (or another penalty for leaving) or the possibility of additional incentives to stay in the Warzone. We'll keep you updated on any changes and appreciate your feedback! incentives to stay in WZs please. Also, allow majority vote kick for any player (AFK or not), because trust me, most of the time the leavers are not leaving because they want to. They leave because of 1 or 2 people in the team. If the majority of the WZ team agrees with them, why not allow the team to kick them out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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