Derian Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 They are counters FOR EVERY CLASS! Sig worthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fidopro Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 here is another thread for that bloodline guy to read over...same 10 people making posts right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobaStyx Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 (edited) When a class's only real counter is itself, it's entered OP-land. Ask yourself this... Why is it ok for marauders to hard counter classes but not for any class to counter marauders just as severely? Ops/Scoundrels Snipers A good Immortal Jugg that plays right Other marauders Tank sins/shadows with dps gear How many counters you want? Should every class counter every class? Because if that's what you want, maybe you should go play a shooter or something... HOLY **** LIGHT ARMOR CASTERS LOSE TO MELEE IF THEY LET THEM GET CLOSE!!! Edited April 26, 2012 by BobaStyx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sholagar Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 ONE of his DoTs perma snares me for 6 sec ...! This one time, a sage perma stunned me for 3 seconds. I get perma rooted by snipers for almost 5 seconds..... perma!!! FYI perma= permanent I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caelrie Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 (edited) Ops/Scoundrels Snipers A good Immortal Jugg that plays right Other marauders Tank sins/shadows with dps gear How many counters you want? Should every class counter every class? Because if that's what you want, maybe you should go play a shooter or something... If all those hard-counter your marauder like your marauder does to sages, you simply don't know how to play your marauder. HOLY **** LIGHT ARMOR CASTERS LOSE TO MELEE IF THEY LET THEM GET CLOSE!!! One button press from 30 meters away to "get close". Wow, that was so hard. You totally deserve to win because you found the leap button. Go you. Edited April 26, 2012 by Caelrie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyFokker Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 They are counters FOR EVERY CLASS! Funny, our Sages seem to stand up to 2 Marauders riding their nuts for most of the warzone. We also tend to go ape **** on anyone attacking our Sages. Maybe you should have a talk with your team/guildies about defending the healer. They aren't counters for every class, they can just kill light armor wearers effectively because most don't want to go full heals so they can't god mode tank the damage anymore. I've run into good healers who make me work for the kill. You probably just stand there and take it on the chin like your name is Jenna Jameson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moosestick Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 When a class's only real counter is itself, it's entered OP-land. Ask yourself this... Why is it ok for marauders to hard counter classes but not for any class to counter marauders just as severely? Tanks, dps sins, dps pt, snipers, ops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyFokker Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Tanks, dps sins, dps pt, snipers, ops. QFT. The thing of it is, most the people crying about it are crap PVPers. If you can play your class worth a damn and have a good build, any class can counter them. Then it just comes down to who's luckier when it comes to crits and timing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kehtal Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 (edited) ONE of his DoTs ends my bubble! Unless they nerfed the absolute crap out of Force Armor this is a blatant lie. Edited April 26, 2012 by Kehtal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caelrie Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 QFT. The thing of it is, most the people crying about it are crap PVPers. If you can play your class worth a damn and have a good build, any class can counter them. Then it just comes down to who's luckier when it comes to crits and timing. Again I have to say that if EVERY CLASS is a counter to your marauder, the problem isn't behind other people's keyboards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jestersdead Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 They are counters FOR EVERY CLASS! Tell that to a marauder after a sniper rips him in half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthRaika Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 sorc is a crap competitive pvp class right now and requires very little skill (very mobile so you don't need to worry much about positioning and/or timing burst on right targets etc). Sure I can log on him occasionally and top the charts on dmg and feel great about myself but my dmg is pretty meaningless in any real competitive pvp match. I pug Q and if i'm fighting another crappy pug then my sorc does meaningful dmg and kills, however If you fight a good team then the current sorc dps spec is meaningless (although you should still top the chart) Topping the chart is based on consistent dmg and sorc is great at that since it has a lot of instant consistent dmg spells and is mobile so you should be able to stay alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthRaika Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 lol ya that sniper. Sniper is def the best low lvl class for ***** and grins and ppl are starting to realize it. If a sniper initiates a fight he just can't lose 1v1 lol. its fine though and I don't want it changed since i enjoy hopping on my noob sniper occasionally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurricaneXXIV Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 He's wearing Rakata and you should destroy him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gungan Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 First off you need to learn the definition of a hard counter, for example I bet you don't complain about tearing the **** out of heavy armor wearers. Maras are caster killers plain and simple. What exactly do heavy armor wearers counter? Cuz it sure as hell isn't Maras or Operatives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lugh Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 DPS Sages are weak if you don't support them. Give them some breathing room and the numbers they can put out is breath taking. No one with a brain gives us any breathing room and we lack the ability to make our own anymore since they nerfed force speed to no longer remove slows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cempa Posted April 27, 2012 Author Share Posted April 27, 2012 (edited) Rupture: Snares for 50% each tick and lasts 6sec. Viscous Slash has a 33% chance Massacre has a 66% chance to reset the CD of Rupture Marauder Snare is Force which I can Purge BUT since it reapplies each tick of Rupture its of no use. AND since the Marauder pretty much has a guaranteed reset of Rupture I am thus: PERMA SNARED! For all intents and purposes I am perma snared. This mechanic must be changed for all abilities that apply a snare each tick of a DoT so that the snare is ONY APPLIED on te first tick OR if cleansed/removed via talents the Snare is truly removed. Why give Annihilation such a huge crutch and dumb down the class? If the Marauder is Carnage its even worse.... Not only can he spec into 50% Snare Rupture but he has x3 immobilize at 3sec each off Resolve... That is the MOTHER of all crutches in PvP. Carnage dumbs down the class even further. Its as if BW are hell bent on increasing Marauder representation! If that was not enough they buffed Ravage, made it uninterpretable so the poor guy gets rooted for 9 sec AND pretty much guaranteed to eat the full 3 sec Ravage! Edited April 27, 2012 by Cempa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sensiblepoast Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 They are counters FOR EVERY CLASS! Exactly! The counter for the commando is guild wars 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sensiblepoast Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Marauder Snare is Force which I can Purge BUT since it reapplies each tick of Rupture its of no use. AND since the Marauder pretty much has a guaranteed reset of Rupture I am thus: PERMA SNARED! For all intents and purposes I am perma snared. Lol, coming from a sorcerer this is just too amusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darthorka Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 im a smuggler. the force is alright i guess, but shooting you in the back of the head with a shotgun wins.. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxIncubixx Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 RDPS in this game plain suck, sorc not so much as commando/merc i guess, but still a marauder with half a brain will destroy pretty much anything apart maybe from jugg but then again thats just another can of worms... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindsplitter Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Pre 50 I have no problem with 'balance'. 50 PvP with expertise is just a joke. I hope GW2 does a better job (but how can they do worse?). At 50 this game becomes a FPS with a TTK of about 6 seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viless Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 God dam a class that only has one role as DPS be able to kill another class ??? Looks at the Specs.. 3 DPS Specs for Mara.. there is no healing at all. Maybe if you wanted to only DPS you should choose a DPS only class common sense plain ordinary good judgment; sound practical sense adj common-sense also common-sensical inspired by or displaying sound practical sense - First Step. QQ on forums. - Second Step Re-roll Class - Third step QQ on forums about the class you used to play being able to kill you. - Final Step Give yourself a uppercut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baltraseic Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 What exactly do heavy armor wearers counter? Cuz it sure as hell isn't Maras or Operatives. neverbugs really little ones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haeso Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 DPS Sages are weak if you don't support them. Give them some breathing room and the numbers they can put out is breath taking. Breathtakingly terrible, perhaps. I top charts on my DPS sage - but I kill way more people on my sentinel with less gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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