Rotation as follows: Stim boost while in stealth (esp if you have 6 piece Tacticians)>Volatile>Veiled>Backstab>Lacerate spam Rinse and repeat. Veiled is a short cooldown so you can usually get two more in before Volatile is off cooldown for the combo to be repeated. VERY IMPORTANT: if you pvp, you ALWAYS want to make sure your Volatile is used BEFORE backstab if you're taking the Jarring Strikes talent. That way your backstab will root the target and interrupt them since Volatile Substance being popped allows your next backstab to be used like you were in stealth. To your original question - as long as you Veiled strike after Volatile Substance, you dont have to wait for it to pop. If you don't have Veiled strike up then it will still require a poison/use of backstab which is counterproductive and a big loss of dps since it won't guarantee a backstab crit if you do it the "old" way.

Wait til you holotraverse and go flying 10,000 feet into the air only to die from fall damage. Oh Bioware, good to see things never change

You can't fully min/max in WoW since everything is time-gated and RNG. The VERY best you could do is a weekly PvE chest/weekly PvP chest/Mythic Raiding. If you were by some reason the luckiest player alive, you'd get 4 BIS pieces a week (which would never happen b/c again - your chests and drops are completely RNG). But then you have to grind artifact power to level your neck. Also time-gated. And then there's armor specific traits that have to be randomly found/at max level. And finally, by some chance you get all the above, let's now throw in random titanforging on all your gear except head/chest/legs. And nothing is account wide so you get to do this for EVERY alt. I'm sorry OP but you have no idea what a "grind" truly means.

They dont make most of their money from subs, they make it from the Cartel Market. And bump on this thread, the lag on abilities is pathetic and the fact BW will hotfix crashing when entering a menu but won't hotfix something that effects everybody doing anything is unreal.

You could always roll one and see how easy it is...??? I guarantee you'll see the difference in the skill cap between a person who is new to the class versus somebody like myself or friend that's been playing the class since double hidden strike was a thing.

So they've kept one of their promises over the last 6 years and it was for something as menial as that??? /trolledhardbybiofail

The fact you even think this game still has a developing team is funny. How many people do you think ACTUALLY create fresh content for this game besides Cartel re-hashes? The last of the major updates probably came with 5.0, you'll be lucky to get any new content before 2019, and if it does come, it's probably old ideas they scrapped from long ago that was already partially/nearly completed but cut from other xpacs. Accept this game for what it is: a decent story-driven, single player RPG with lightsabers. Expect much more and you'll just be driven mad by what could have been.

Get off your white horse lol The pvp playerbase in this game is bottom of the barrel. So sorry the one game you queue into has somebody acting like a turd, there's no deserter debuff, leave and get another match. Queue times are nothing if you're max, if you're a lowbie even more reason not to care. Sorry your ego is bruised if you lose a reg wz

Thanks for the reminder. I keep coming back to this game even though I know, like a bad ex-girlfriend, that it's no good for me. But I continue to hold out hope!! Cause #lightsabersandpewpew

The almighty regstar. If you're playing them and taking them seriously, I'm sorry. Better luck next go around when EA gives the Star Wars licensing to somebody with a clue (I hope), or at least a developer that won't use a **** engine like this one that can't even cope with 16 players in a WZ without it crapping out. Good luck junior!

It's regs Who cares?

I like pretty much all you said but this sticks out tremendously. In the US, I can finally start coming out of my basement because the frozen tundra of the Midwest winter is losing it's grasp and spring is near . This means some much needed sunlight for my pasty, pale skin and generally much longer days and shorter nights. You may see an influx of kids/young adults logging on more often come Summer break, but if you're an adult with a life or a family, Spring and Summer will definitely cause me and probably others to not be playing as often.

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Anything that has to do with OwPvP in this game is dead. If that's what you're looking for, the devs have pretty much already laid any doubts to rest what their main focus is and will continue to be.

5/10 woulda given you a lower troll score had the above not ranted like a madman Please troll again later, but a worthy effort nonetheless.

It's actually 10% for the Inquisitor/Consular class ONLY for defense chance. Everybody else has 5%. It definitely helps for the likes of carnage marauders, marksman snipers, and railshots/HiBs since so many people in PvP only do 101% accuracy.

It has been 4 months since the expansion came out. The only "class balancing" that has been done was the nerfing of burst DPS classes. Absolutely inexcusable. Nice speculation over us "asking" for a wz that they've probably had on the back shelf since 3.0, but I have my own speculation: they couldn't have two ***** about what PvPers want and don't care how imbalanced things are, as long as their cash cow (Cartel Market) keeps bringing in dough. They have until Legion drops and then I'm out of here again. SWTOR has a very enjoyable combat system; TTK isn't too terrible (barring being pitted against 3 sorc heals with a guard) and in 8's most classes are somewhat viable. This game is super casual -which is fine by me- but some sort of adjustments have to be made when 1 class has literally been sitting at the top of the mountain for well over a year. This game had so much potential, but the developers have turned what was one of the most hyped MMO's into a fraction of what it could have been had it been able to retain competent people who truly cared about it's development or it's community.

You must not have played marauder/sentinel for very long b/c the 3 MINUTE cooldown on Guarded by the Derp/UR is not a reduction in CD. Prior to the great smash nerf, you could have the it up every 1 1/2 mins (or 1 min 15 secs with set bonus) which caused a huge outcry for ranked (and rightfully so). Then they went overboard, made the health loss occur at the end of the move and turned us into paper dolls. Only took them an entire expansion to revert that nerf. So the only way you get to reduce the CD at all is if you give up the predation buff (never will happen) or give up your anti-kiting tool of crippling slash root or mad dash root break. Please tell me which tool you give up for a reduction to a 3 minute cd? Second, the only way you get a full 30 sec duration on CP/Rebuke is if you are being actively attacked. People are smarter nowadays and will completely ignore you when it's up. It's very situational at best. Finally, marauder is no longer the solo king that it used to be. That title now goes to our warrior counterpart. We do 0 dps when being kited, which is the major weakness of the class at the moment. Second biggest weakness is we are not self-reliant at all. The only other class that doesn't have a form of self-healing/ability to reset a fight is Marauders/Sents and PT's/VG's. And we all know how unkiteable a PT/VG has become. Another tool to help with staying on target is something I think we could definitely use. The removal of deadly throw and now making us use 2 talent points to turn crippling slash into what deadly throw used to be was a major nerf. It's about time they get rid of that foul up.

Thing is though they dropped an expansion, raised level cap, and made a stupid *** single person story arc. That's what BW considers an expansion to their game. They did nothing for PvE. They've done nothing for PvP since Queshball (barf), and best of all, we sit here on the forums hoping and praying that after YEARS of the same **** that BW is going to do something about the lack of EVERYTHING in this game. I'm sorry ladies and gents, but I really don't know what you expected from these guys. It's been like this since the launch of the last expansion, it really should be no surprise that they refuse to do anything we ask of them because let's face it: they never have done a single thing we've asked for in the past. Unless it has some sort of impact on the Cartel Market, then they'll drop an emergency patch the next day to fix it. Priorities people. And if you haven't figured it out yet, BW's priorities don't revolve around what you or I want in terms of the PvP experience. Facts are facts.

And you can only choose 2 of those 3 talents since they are top tier talents. Predation removes roots but doesn't prevent them, so after you've popped it, one of the other 7 sorcs on the enemy team can just overload and root you again. Not to mention if you want the crippling slash root to be any good, you have to spend another talent point just to give it a 10M range. No other class has to spend multiple utility points just to make one move in PvP viable. I absolutely do better solo with my Jugg, but with a group that can heal me? Marauders definitely excel. I do think a slight buff in defenses would help, but I do agree that granting self-healing wouldn't be what I would like to see because I don't want Maras playing like Juggs.

Sorc /5 char

At one time you and every single one of us who PvP regularly were a so called "Idiot that can't even press buttons". It's garbage and venom spewed like this that causes people who first start out to not want to come back due to the chest thumpers and regstar ragers who act a fool when somebody does something you don't like. Are there problems with this game? Hell yes there is. Does calling out newbies, name dropping, and raging at them help the situation? Nope.

There is no such thing as "solo queue in 8's". If you don't group to run 8's - and that could be even as small as getting another person to run with you - then you really won't find any empathy here. You're praying that you get 7 other competent players and wonder why the odds aren't in your favor?

You won a match. Much wow. Bravo.

BW, trolling it's players since circa patch 1.1 I can't believe that was even a question, somebody get these people a reality check please...