drmcnasty Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 Don't agree with this, why? Because they're just colours, one little out of place thing won't end the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caelrie Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 Bingo. And that's the slippery slope of "my enjoyment of the game is more important than the game's setting." While that may indeed be true on some metaphysical level, it opens a whole can of worms. Before you know it, the game looks about as canonically-specific as Stark Trek Online does--which is to say it doesn't. Slippery slope arguments are worthless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dezzi Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 Slippery slope arguments are worthless. Because... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caelrie Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 Because... http://www.fallacyfiles.org/slipslop.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyDiggler Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 Whats funny is when you watch the intro video for the game you see all the sith pop out of the sith and ignite their sabers on Q and what color are all of them??? I must be color blind because I missed all the purple and black core sabers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verasmis Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 their use among Jedi was strongly discouraged. Jedi frowned on the use of synthetic crystals in lightsabers, most individuals who utilized colors other than red were Darksiders looking to hide their affiliations So what you're saying is Jedi can use whatever colour they want... it's just discouraged. Much like Jedi can make dark side choices, but your Master suggests you stick to the Jedi code and the lightside of the force. Much like Jedi have romance options in game, even though the code warns against such attachments as they lead to the dark side. So there are no physical darkside/lightside restrictions, merely cultural and personal restrictions which you can roleplay if you wish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kubernetic Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 (edited) Synthetic Crystals, it’s a Sith Thang! Though synthetic crystals were ordinarily unsuitable for use in light sabers, the Sith discovered that they could create synth-crystals that were energized, magnetized, and modified with the power of the dark side of the Force in special furnaces, causing the crystal to glow in harmonic vibration. As a result of their artificial origins, synthetic crystals created more powerful light saber blades and could be more easily augmented. Also, their common usage by Sith and other Darksiders after this discovery caused synthetic crystals to become something of a staple among such groups, and their use among Jedi was strongly discouraged. Most synthetic crystals were red, a result of the forging process, and oftentimes the initiate's intentional manipulations, as most individuals who utilized synthetic crystals were Darksiders. The red-hued light saber blades generated by such crystals were often nicknamed "bloodshine blades". However, synth-crystals could be made in any color, requiring only slight adjustments of the creation process and special manipulations through the Force during the forging. Jedi frowned on the use of synthetic crystals in lightsabers, most individuals who utilized colors other than red were Darksiders looking to hide their affiliations 1. But Exar Kun had a blue light saber! Explanation: The lightsaber of Jedi Knight Exar Kun was a device that was initially created to produce a single beam of blue-white energy. However, upon his ascension to Dark Lord of the Sith, Kun redesigned his lightsaber based on instructions hidden within an antiquated Sith holocron. The finished product was a double-bladed weapon imbued with dark side energy, from which sapphire blades materialized up to 1.5 meters from either end of the hilt. (Exar Kun had learned long lost secrets from a holocron that forged the look but it is a synthetically made crystal infused with the dark side of the force.) A rarity your character is not significant enough to overshadow and take away the iconic look of this character. 2. But Anakin used his Blue Light Saber in EP3! Explanation: Anakin just turned to the Dark Side of the Force and was immediately sent to kill the remaining separatist and exterminate the Jedi order. He did not have time, I repeat he did not have time to make a Synthetic Crystal. (What you see in the movies and a design restriction in a video game is two different things. There is a reason why these three were restricted because BioWARE knows they are the iconic colors of the two factions.) 3. But Mace Windu had a purple colored crystal! In the Prequel Trilogy, Mace Windu's unique purple lightsaber was a functional change but Samuel L. Jackson, who played Windu, asked for a lightsaber to match his favorite color, and the distinct shade helped his character stand out on the battlefield from the red, blue, and green of the other lightsabers. A rarity, nuff said! Jedi used natural crystals! According to The Jedi Path: A Manual for Students of the Force, lightsaber colors originally indicated a Jedi's role in the Order. For example, Jedi Consulars, who focused on non-violence, carried green lightsabers to symbolize peace. Jedi Guardians, on the other hand, carried blue lightsabers as a symbol of uniformity and solidarity. The lack of lightsaber color variation in the movies is a lack of colored crystals. According to Jedi vs. Sith, the Empire (Past/Present/Future) quarantined or destroyed many sources of lightsaber crystals. This left the Jedi with mostly Ilum crystals, which can only produce green or blue blades. Conclusion Red/Blue/Green needs to be restricted to their respective factions. The symbols of the big three colors are iconic to the faction which they have been displayed upon. Posters, movies, books, cartoons, toys and comics is proof enough that Red is the faction color of the Sith, while Blue/Green is the faction color of the Jedi, regardless of a select few iconic characters. Flame away! Let us play a simple logic game. Are you ready? Good. Then let's begin. QUESTION: Why would something like "using a red crystal in a Jedi lightsaber" need to be STRONGLY DISCOURAGED? ANSWER: Because it was actually possible to use red crystals in Jedi lightsabers in the first place. Thank you. I have enjoyed our little logic game. Edited March 9, 2012 by Kubernetic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackavaar Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 I wonder how some of you would feel about my Jedi Knight > Guardian running around in Trooper gear with a red light saber. It's canon. Ha ha ha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caelrie Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 I wonder how some of you would feel about my Jedi Knight > Guardian running around in Trooper gear with a red light saber. It's canon. Ha ha ha! Don't care. It's your character. Dress however you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dezzi Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 (edited) http://www.fallacyfiles.org/slipslop.html This type of argument is by no means invariably fallacious, but the strength of the argument is inversely proportional to the number of steps between A and Z, and directly proportional to the causal strength of the connections between adjacent steps. If there are many intervening steps, and the causal connections between them are weak, or even unknown, then the resulting argument will be very weak, if not downright fallacious. From your own source. It's not enough to say all "slippery slopes" are fallacies--especially because they usually deal with precedents. In this case, the precedent is set that player whims are more important than adhering to a sense of canon. The team can therefore justify any future design decisions by pointing to this moment. "We let X in the game, therefore we can allow Y." That's not a fallacy. It's experience, and I point to Star Trek Online as the most pertinent example of this very trend. Edited March 9, 2012 by Dezzi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kubernetic Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 I wonder how some of you would feel about my Jedi Knight > Guardian running around in Trooper gear with a red light saber. It's canon. Ha ha ha! Ki Adi Mundi could have used some heavy trooper armor that day on Mygeeto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dezzi Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 Ki Adi Mundi could have used some heavy trooper armor that day on Mygeeto. So true! lol And sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlazingShadow Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 Synthetic Crystals, it’s a Sith Thang! Though synthetic crystals were ordinarily unsuitable for use in light sabers, the Sith discovered that they could create synth-crystals that were energized, magnetized, and modified with the power of the dark side of the Force in special furnaces, causing the crystal to glow in harmonic vibration. As a result of their artificial origins, synthetic crystals created more powerful light saber blades and could be more easily augmented. Also, their common usage by Sith and other Darksiders after this discovery caused synthetic crystals to become something of a staple among such groups, and their use among Jedi was strongly discouraged. Most synthetic crystals were red, a result of the forging process, and oftentimes the initiate's intentional manipulations, as most individuals who utilized synthetic crystals were Darksiders. The red-hued light saber blades generated by such crystals were often nicknamed "bloodshine blades". However, synth-crystals could be made in any color, requiring only slight adjustments of the creation process and special manipulations through the Force during the forging. Jedi frowned on the use of synthetic crystals in lightsabers, most individuals who utilized colors other than red were Darksiders looking to hide their affiliations 1. But Exar Kun had a blue light saber! Explanation: The lightsaber of Jedi Knight Exar Kun was a device that was initially created to produce a single beam of blue-white energy. However, upon his ascension to Dark Lord of the Sith, Kun redesigned his lightsaber based on instructions hidden within an antiquated Sith holocron. The finished product was a double-bladed weapon imbued with dark side energy, from which sapphire blades materialized up to 1.5 meters from either end of the hilt. (Exar Kun had learned long lost secrets from a holocron that forged the look but it is a synthetically made crystal infused with the dark side of the force.) A rarity your character is not significant enough to overshadow and take away the iconic look of this character. 2. But Anakin used his Blue Light Saber in EP3! Explanation: Anakin just turned to the Dark Side of the Force and was immediately sent to kill the remaining separatist and exterminate the Jedi order. He did not have time, I repeat he did not have time to make a Synthetic Crystal. (What you see in the movies and a design restriction in a video game is two different things. There is a reason why these three were restricted because BioWARE knows they are the iconic colors of the two factions.) 3. But Mace Windu had a purple colored crystal! In the Prequel Trilogy, Mace Windu's unique purple lightsaber was a functional change but Samuel L. Jackson, who played Windu, asked for a lightsaber to match his favorite color, and the distinct shade helped his character stand out on the battlefield from the red, blue, and green of the other lightsabers. A rarity, nuff said! Jedi used natural crystals! According to The Jedi Path: A Manual for Students of the Force, lightsaber colors originally indicated a Jedi's role in the Order. For example, Jedi Consulars, who focused on non-violence, carried green lightsabers to symbolize peace. Jedi Guardians, on the other hand, carried blue lightsabers as a symbol of uniformity and solidarity. The lack of lightsaber color variation in the movies is a lack of colored crystals. According to Jedi vs. Sith, the Empire (Past/Present/Future) quarantined or destroyed many sources of lightsaber crystals. This left the Jedi with mostly Ilum crystals, which can only produce green or blue blades. Conclusion Red/Blue/Green needs to be restricted to their respective factions. The symbols of the big three colors are iconic to the faction which they have been displayed upon. Posters, movies, books, cartoons, toys and comics is proof enough that Red is the faction color of the Sith, while Blue/Green is the faction color of the Jedi, regardless of a select few iconic characters. Flame away! No. Anakin used a blue lightsaber once he was promoted to "darth" therefore all manner of sith may use blue blades. Let's be fair and let jedi use red blades, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caelrie Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 (edited) From your own source. It's not enough to say all "slipper slopes" are fallacies--especially because they usually deal with precedents. In this case, the precedent is set that player whims are more important than adhering to a sense of canon. The team can therefore justify any future design decisions by pointing to this moment. "We let X in the game, therefore we can allow Y." That's not a fallacy. It's experience, and I point to Star Trek Online as the most pertinent example of this very trend. I notice you had to qualify "canon", which means even you know your argument is bogus. Wouldn't it be easier to just admit this is merely something you want and not something required by "Star Wars"? Edited March 9, 2012 by Caelrie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dezzi Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 (edited) I notice you had to qualify "canon", which means even you know your argument is bogus. I notice you ignore many of my posts in this thread, which means even you know your argument is bogus--or you just want the attention. In all honesty I qualified canon because there are liberties being taken already. The more liberties taken, the less the game looks like its IP and more like... something else. Which begs the question: Why bother with the IP at all? But semantics are fun! Woo! Edited March 9, 2012 by Dezzi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlazingShadow Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 (edited) Well, according to lore a Dark Sided Jedi wouldn't want to expose himself do to the adverse action that would be taken against him from the Jedi Counsel. What other star wars game in the history of ever specifically restricted red being used by lightside and blue/green being used by darkside? Dark Forces II?" Nope.avi darkside OR lightside, Kyle Katarn uses a blue and then an orange saber Jedi Knight II? Nope.avi Kyle Katarn in the story uses only a blue because it's the only one he's offered, and in multiplayer a player with all darkside powers can indeed use a blue/green saber Jedi Academy? Nope.avi your lightsaber stays the same regardless of alignment Kotor? Nope.avi Revan can use any color at any point of the story Kotor II? Nope.avi the exile can use any color at any point of the story The Force Unleashed? Nope.avi Galen Marek can use any color at any point of the story TFU II? That game was really bad, but same as the others Edited March 9, 2012 by BlazingShadow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dezzi Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 (edited) I notice you had to qualify "canon", which means even you know your argument is bogus. Wouldn't it be easier to just admit this is merely something you want and not something required by "Star Wars"? As to your additions in edit: I've never once argued that canon says a Jedi can't use a red saber if they wanted to. But I guess you decided only the most recent posts are important. That's fine. What I am arguing is that there is a tradition within the game's IP that both establishes and encourages one group to use one color and the other to use other colors--regardless of what any individual decides is better for him/her. This tradition promotes a sense of identity within the universe that a removal of restrictions erodes (be they hard-coded restrictions or through roleplay and story). As a roleplayer, I'm very much in favor of player choices. But I believe that those choices should have consequences. In this case, I proposed that a Jedi igniting a red lightsaber in the Senate might turn heads and garner a talk from his master. Or a Sith igniting a blue lightsaber might draw the wrong kind of attention from other, more fervently fanatical Sith. Edited March 9, 2012 by Dezzi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightmaguz Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 (edited) Synthetic Crystals, it’s a Sith Thang! Though synthetic crystals were ordinarily unsuitable for use in light sabers, the Sith discovered that they could create synth-crystals that were energized, magnetized, and modified with the power of the dark side of the Force in special furnaces, causing the crystal to glow in harmonic vibration. As a result of their artificial origins, synthetic crystals created more powerful light saber blades and could be more easily augmented. Also, their common usage by Sith and other Darksiders after this discovery caused synthetic crystals to become something of a staple among such groups, and their use among Jedi was strongly discouraged. Most synthetic crystals were red, a result of the forging process, and oftentimes the initiate's intentional manipulations, as most individuals who utilized synthetic crystals were Darksiders. The red-hued light saber blades generated by such crystals were often nicknamed "bloodshine blades". However, synth-crystals could be made in any color, requiring only slight adjustments of the creation process and special manipulations through the Force during the forging. Jedi frowned on the use of synthetic crystals in lightsabers, most individuals who utilized colors other than red were Darksiders looking to hide their affiliations 1. But Exar Kun had a blue light saber! Explanation: The lightsaber of Jedi Knight Exar Kun was a device that was initially created to produce a single beam of blue-white energy. However, upon his ascension to Dark Lord of the Sith, Kun redesigned his lightsaber based on instructions hidden within an antiquated Sith holocron. The finished product was a double-bladed weapon imbued with dark side energy, from which sapphire blades materialized up to 1.5 meters from either end of the hilt. (Exar Kun had learned long lost secrets from a holocron that forged the look but it is a synthetically made crystal infused with the dark side of the force.) A rarity your character is not significant enough to overshadow and take away the iconic look of this character. 2. But Anakin used his Blue Light Saber in EP3! Explanation: Anakin just turned to the Dark Side of the Force and was immediately sent to kill the remaining separatist and exterminate the Jedi order. He did not have time, I repeat he did not have time to make a Synthetic Crystal. (What you see in the movies and a design restriction in a video game is two different things. There is a reason why these three were restricted because BioWARE knows they are the iconic colors of the two factions.) 3. But Mace Windu had a purple colored crystal! In the Prequel Trilogy, Mace Windu's unique purple lightsaber was a functional change but Samuel L. Jackson, who played Windu, asked for a lightsaber to match his favorite color, and the distinct shade helped his character stand out on the battlefield from the red, blue, and green of the other lightsabers. A rarity, nuff said! Jedi used natural crystals! According to The Jedi Path: A Manual for Students of the Force, lightsaber colors originally indicated a Jedi's role in the Order. For example, Jedi Consulars, who focused on non-violence, carried green lightsabers to symbolize peace. Jedi Guardians, on the other hand, carried blue lightsabers as a symbol of uniformity and solidarity. The lack of lightsaber color variation in the movies is a lack of colored crystals. According to Jedi vs. Sith, the Empire (Past/Present/Future) quarantined or destroyed many sources of lightsaber crystals. This left the Jedi with mostly Ilum crystals, which can only produce green or blue blades. Conclusion Red/Blue/Green needs to be restricted to their respective factions. The symbols of the big three colors are iconic to the faction which they have been displayed upon. Posters, movies, books, cartoons, toys and comics is proof enough that Red is the faction color of the Sith, while Blue/Green is the faction color of the Jedi, regardless of a select few iconic characters. Flame away! Hats off, everything in this post is right, a thousand times this! I hate to see Sith with green and blue sabers.... What other star wars game in the history of ever specifically restricted red being used by lightside and blue/green being used by darkside? Dark Forces II?" Nope.avi darkside OR lightside, Kyle Katarn uses a blue and then an orange saber Jedi Knight II? Nope.avi Kyle Katarn in the story uses only a blue because it's the only one he's offered, and in multiplayer a player with all darkside powers can indeed use a blue/green saber Jedi Academy? Nope.avi your lightsaber stays the same regardless of alignment Kotor? Nope.avi Revan can use any color at any point of the story Kotor II? Nope.avi the exile can use any color at any point of the story The Force Unleashed? Nope.avi Galen Marek can use any color at any point of the story TFU II? That game was really bad, but same as the others Canonically those characters either used the proper colours(like the Exile and Revan did.) or had no choice like Galen having only the sabers he got from Vader on TFU II. Galen's lightsaber colour is consistent in the cutscenes it's a badly implemented game feature that he could change it to anything and it didn't even make sense. Your saber doesn't change based on alignment don't be stupid, SITH is a dark side organization, doesn't mean there aren't some bad apples with good intentions, still sith that were born sith will not use anything other than red lightsabers, and maybe purple as it was implemented as a popular colour during this timeline. Katarn's saber on Jedi Knight was Rahn's and then Yun's he had no real choice and YUn's saber was yellow, he wasn't Sith though he was a mere Dark Jedi. "and in multiplayer a player with all darkside powers can indeed use a blue/green saber" Are you really taking multiplayer with no story whatsoever in consideration here? Besides having dark side powers doesn't mean being Sith. Edited March 9, 2012 by Lightmaguz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zocat Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 What I am arguing is that there is a tradition within the game's IP that both establishes and encourages one group to use one color and the other to use other colors. This tradition promotes a sense of identity within the universe that a removal of restrictions (be they hard-coded or through roleplay) erodes. But those traditions are still in the game. Most Sith my Jedi fought used either red (or purple) light sabres. And I killed hundreds if not thousands of them. All other Jedi I saw used green/blue. Also hundreds/thousands of them. Just because they're NPCs doesnt mean they're not part of the story. So for every character which uses another color there are thousands of other users who stick to the tradition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawginole Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 OP... best post on the subject. I still hold to the main point being that this detracts from the D/L system at the core, but your arguments on restrictions based on the merits of lore are solid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dezzi Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 But those traditions are still in the game. Most Sith my Jedi fought used either red (or purple) light sabres. And I killed hundreds if not thousands of them. All other Jedi I saw used green/blue. Also hundreds/thousands of them. Just because they're NPCs doesnt mean they're not part of the story. So for every character which uses another color there are thousands of other users who stick to the tradition. And that's a fair point. I'm still uncomfortable about the prevalence of tradition-breakers this will bring (on a roleplaying server no less). The change is coming. Sure. I can still be uncomfy about it. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kubernetic Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 Hats off, everything in this post is right, a thousand times this! I hate to see Sith with green and blue sabers.... Actually he isn't right. Regardless of whether Anakin "had time" to make a red crystal or not, he successfully used a blue lightsaber as a dark Lord of the Sith. He had already been christened as Darth Vader, and had already killed a room full of younglings, not to mention helping to destroy almost all of the Jedi at the temple. There are plenty of ways they could have worked around this. Vader could have gone to a vault in the temple where the red crystals were and pulled a red lightsaber, for instance. Or Sidious could have popped one out of his pocket after christening him as Darth Vader. They didn't, because there is no magical force that prevents any one of any side using the other crystals. It was just a matter of pomp and tradition, one that was broken several times in no uncertain terms. Canon supports the use of both types and all colors of crystals on all sides. These are the facts, and they are undisputed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightmaguz Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 (edited) So what? The fact Darth Sidious gave him a red crystal afterwards and made him use it is just random then? I'm sure he didn't choose red consciously? Or maybe it's just the proper colour.... BESIDES, Anakin was a Jedi, sith in this game are born sith why would they start using Jedi colours?!? Can you imagine Darth Baras being pleased at your new light blue lightsaber? Edited March 9, 2012 by Lightmaguz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sernon Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 What other star wars game in the history of ever specifically restricted red being used by lightside and blue/green being used by darkside? Kotor? Nope.avi Revan can use any color at any point of the story Kotor II? Nope.avi the exile can use any color at any point of the story The Force Unleashed? Nope.avi Galen Marek can use any color at any point of the story TFU II? That game was really bad, but same as the others Only played the first two of those, but it becomes apparent that the challenges you face when bringing this material online, can be different from putting one player at the center of the universe. Now you suddenly have a greater number of players in that position, resulting in interaction you don't have to deal with in the single player game. To not deal with this is to ignore the transition to the online format, and the effect the new format will have on a grander scale. The alignment system initially attempted to alleviate some of the resulting visual anarchy, but this was of course too restrictive, for those that still can't accept that when you're online, you willingly participate in something greater, and everything you do will ultimately reflect upon others in some shape or form. In this case it leads to a visual anomalies a carefully constructed single player experience never would allow. Thus there needs to be some visual restriction present, for you can not eliminate the effect of so many players with the backdrop alone. It drowns easily in the added noise. --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbrad Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 synthetic crystals, it’s a sith thang! though synthetic crystals were ordinarily unsuitable for use in light sabers, the sith discovered that they could create synth-crystals that were energized, magnetized, and modified with the power of the dark side of the force in special furnaces, causing the crystal to glow in harmonic vibration. As a result of their artificial origins, synthetic crystals created more powerful light saber blades and could be more easily augmented. Also, their common usage by sith and other darksiders after this discovery caused synthetic crystals to become something of a staple among such groups, and their use among jedi was strongly discouraged. most synthetic crystals were red, a result of the forging process, and oftentimes the initiate's intentional manipulations, as most individuals who utilized synthetic crystals were darksiders. The red-hued light saber blades generated by such crystals were often nicknamed "bloodshine blades". However, synth-crystals could be made in any color, requiring only slight adjustments of the creation process and special manipulations through the force during the forging. jedi frowned on the use of synthetic crystals in lightsabers, most individuals who utilized colors other than red were darksiders looking to hide their affiliations 1. but exar kun had a blue light saber! explanation: The lightsaber of jedi knight exar kun was a device that was initially created to produce a single beam of blue-white energy. However, upon his ascension to dark lord of the sith, kun redesigned his lightsaber based on instructions hidden within an antiquated sith holocron. the finished product was a double-bladed weapon imbued with dark side energy, from which sapphire blades materialized up to 1.5 meters from either end of the hilt. (exar kun had learned long lost secrets from a holocron that forged the look but it is a synthetically made crystal infused with the dark side of the force.) a rarity your character is not significant enough to overshadow and take away the iconic look of this character. 2. but anakin used his blue light saber in ep3! explanation: Anakin just turned to the dark side of the force and was immediately sent to kill the remaining separatist and exterminate the jedi order. He did not have time, i repeat he did not have time to make a synthetic crystal. (what you see in the movies and a design restriction in a video game is two different things. There is a reason why these three were restricted because bioware knows they are the iconic colors of the two factions.) 3. but mace windu had a purple colored crystal! in the prequel trilogy, mace windu's unique purple lightsaber was a functional change but samuel l. Jackson, who played windu, asked for a lightsaber to match his favorite color, and the distinct shade helped his character stand out on the battlefield from the red, blue, and green of the other lightsabers. a rarity, nuff said! jedi used natural crystals! according to the jedi path: A manual for students of the force, lightsaber colors originally indicated a jedi's role in the order. For example, jedi consulars, who focused on non-violence, carried green lightsabers to symbolize peace. jedi guardians, on the other hand, carried blue lightsabers as a symbol of uniformity and solidarity. the lack of lightsaber color variation in the movies is a lack of colored crystals. According to jedi vs. Sith, the empire (past/present/future) quarantined or destroyed many sources of lightsaber crystals. this left the jedi with mostly ilum crystals, which can only produce green or blue blades. conclusion red/blue/green needs to be restricted to their respective factions. The symbols of the big three colors are iconic to the faction which they have been displayed upon. Posters, movies, books, cartoons, toys and comics is proof enough that red is the faction color of the sith, while blue/green is the faction color of the jedi, regardless of a select few iconic characters. flame away! well said and decribed, i agree ty! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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