marshalleck Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 (edited) Where did I say I did not like the game? 5 is not negative. 5 IS right in the middle. 5 (or ~50%) is below average for most reviews. "Average" games usually fall somewhere in the 80-85 range. Using your own metric is perfectly acceptable of course, just don't be surprised when people see you give a game a 5 out of 10 and assume you nearly hated it. Edited February 16, 2012 by marshalleck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthRavnos Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 User scores are stuffed with zero's - bad metric. Well, that is like saying critic reviews are stuffed with $$$ though. Bad metric is bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshalleck Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 User scores are stuffed with zero's - bad metric. They cancel out the fanboys giving games a perfect 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farho Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 The local game magazine I've been buying gave it a 8.2 saying they like the game a lot. And they hand out 9.x's a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ousmokeit Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 (edited) Then raids suck,pvp sucks,buggs suck and railed questing mmo my *** The game needs to be a rpg. Edited February 16, 2012 by ousmokeit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drewser Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 They cancel out the fanboys giving games a perfect 10. Incorrect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratior Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 These reviewers play a few days and write up some trash that people pay to read? Try asking us-the paying customers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fomby Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 (edited) I respect their review, but it's only an opinion. Lots of games have received high scores that I did not care for, and that's fine because everyone is entitled to their opinion. I have not read the review, but as long as the writer didn't ignore some of the flaws in the game I'm not going to hate on him or his magazine. However, if he blatantly left out a lot of the issues with the game I would then label it for what it is, yellow journalism. Edited February 16, 2012 by Fomby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jett-Rinn Posted February 16, 2012 Author Share Posted February 16, 2012 These reviewers play a few days and write up some trash that people pay to read? Try asking us-the paying customers. Okay if they did ask us the Paying customers the would probably find that the vast majority of people playing it actually like the game, while a handful of folks hate everything about it. And the hate machine would still claim that's rigged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshalleck Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 (edited) Incorrect. Well then, I guess a huge portion of gamers are wrong, and Dragon Age 2 for example really was a fantastic and widely well-received title. Yes yes, I know, /v/ hatemonger conspiracy. Edited February 16, 2012 by marshalleck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagessel Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 SWTOR a good game? It... It can't be! It just ... Can't be! The forum Astroturfers keep telling me it can't... No but all joking aside, many people in these and other forums seem to be on a crusade to convince everyone that SWTOR can't be a good game because it's not the kind of game they like. Seem to be convinced that if it succeeds that they'll never see investors promoting the hard core playstyle they prefer. At some point you have to stop and realize, when a billion reviews all seem to agree in something they rarely ever do (universally positive reviews), perhaps they might be onto something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gokkus Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 (edited) Its so amusing when there is a negative review all the haters say they agree and that SWTOR is doomed and I told you so. When a positive review gets posted it is worthless and paid for... Here's a shocker: different people may rate this game differently. Some like it and some don't, is that really that hard to imagine? This game is not 'worth' 1/10 or 5/10 or 10/10 in general because ITS AN OPINION. Edited February 16, 2012 by Gokkus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jett-Rinn Posted February 16, 2012 Author Share Posted February 16, 2012 SWTOR a good game? It... It can't be! It just ... Can't be! The forum Astroturfers keep telling me it can't... No but all joking aside, many people in these and other forums seem to be on a crusade to convince everyone that SWTOR can't be a good game because it's not the kind of game they like. Seem to be convinced that if it succeeds that they'll never see investors promoting the hard core playstyle they prefer. At some point you have to stop and realize, when a billion reviews all seem to agree in something they rarely ever do (universally positive reviews), perhaps they might be onto something. Well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drewser Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Well then, I guess a huge portion of gamers are wrong, and Dragon Age 2 for example really was a fantastic and widely well-received title. Yes yes, I know, /v/ hatemonger conspiracy. Relevance? Read the low scores and you will see what I am talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshalleck Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 At some point you have to stop and realize, when a billion reviews all seem to agree in something they rarely ever do (universally positive reviews), perhaps they might be onto something. I wonder if you will be singing the same tune, should it come to pass that 1-1.5 million of TOR's initial subscribers don't remain past the 6 month mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RycheMykola Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 PC Gamer gave it a 93/100 That's one of their best reviews of the year. The critics are definitely in love with this game that's for sure. The critics seriously want this game to be the WoW killer, I can just feel it every time I read a critic review. PC Gamer did a huge spread on it in their latest issue and they even gave space combat a glowing review. So the critics love it. Time will tell if the average paying customer likes it as much. Ugh, I hate when people tried to tout this game as a "WOW Killer". It never could. Its a totally different genre. Some people like Swords, Shields, and Wizards over Space and Sci-fi. Heck, even GW2 isn't going to be a WOW killer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshalleck Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Relevance? Read the low scores and you will see what I am talking about. I'm well familiar with the DA2 metacritic debacle. There were just as many raging fanboys stuffing the site with 10s as there were raging haters stuffing it with 0s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neocoma Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Yeah just wait until they found out it won a very prestigious award from the academy of interactive arts and sciences. Oh yeah ...outstanding achievement in online gaming. I can see where this comes from and they are right! It is indeed an outstanding achievement to make an online game feel like a single player. ;> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drewser Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 I'm well familiar with the DA2 metacritic debacle. There were just as many raging fanboys stuffing the site with 10s as there were raging haters stuffing it with 0s. Still wrong but I am done. Enjoy using your flawed rating system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden_Dissent Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Well as basically a review of PVE 1-50. "I tried each of the different Warzone modes and briefly visited Ilum; though, since I’m not really a PvP fan, I didn’t concentrate on this aspect" Would be interesting to have them reveiw it by someone who is a fan of PvP. If it were a pvp game then a pvp review would matter. But it's not. Not yet anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jett-Rinn Posted February 16, 2012 Author Share Posted February 16, 2012 I wonder if you will be singing the same tune, should it come to pass that 1-1.5 million of TOR's initial subscribers don't remain past the 6 month mark. You keep rubbing your hands together hoping for this....I hope you don't try anything foolish should Bioware announce yet another population growth soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ousmokeit Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 (edited) Hell I don't look for a wow killer an loved this game till 50 and I saw that the same bugs over and over, fix after fix brings more bugs and no fixes, illum was going to be a big and great place to pvp lie, big open world lie. endgame is bugged out the ***, gear looks like crap, mounts look like crap, crafting is a joke. would been happy if it was a rpg, but mmo not even close! and i didn't pay for a rpg!! and if it's so great why r u in forums go play the great game!!! Edited February 16, 2012 by ousmokeit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blotter Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 C'mon whiners...go go gadget tinfoil hats... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oceanzen Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Good or bad, I just don't trust a publisher that dropped $300 million on a title. That's SO much to have on the line. So much riding on the favorable perception of the game in the gaming world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarjarloves Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Another paid for review... almost made it one whole page with out them saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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