the_coaltrain Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Now that they removed shockfrozen water from beeing viable in WZ's... you can rejoice in you are one of the only classes able to pull 15 medals a WZ now. You can heal You can dmg You can protect And there are so many of you playing and bioware is already on such shakey ground, they will not touch any of those balance issues on your glass for at least a year, if this game can survive that long. This is not a L2P thread... or a I get killed by lots of other classes thread... this is a pure balance stand point that says your class gets way more than any other... facts are facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorkvid Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 (edited) Now that they removed shockfrozen water from beeing viable in WZ's... you can rejoice in you are one of the only classes able to pull 15 medals a WZ now. You can heal You can dmg You can protect And there are so many of you playing and bioware is already on such shakey ground, they will not touch any of those balance issues on your glass for at least a year, if this game can survive that long. This is not a L2P thread... or a I get killed by lots of other classes thread... this is a pure balance stand point that says your class gets way more than any other... facts are facts. Juggernauts can pull 17 medals, but the 5k heal / 75k healed are tricky to get Edited February 14, 2012 by dorkvid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngryBuddhist Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 They don't call PvP "Inq's vs. Cons" for nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_coaltrain Posted February 14, 2012 Author Share Posted February 14, 2012 Juggernauts can pull 17 medals, but the 5k heal / 75k healed are tricky to get But they have to be a lot better at playing where the average SI or JC can get higher numbers with much less effort. That would be more my point. No one class should have access to so many aspects at once... and have them be compariable other classes. Utility is not meant to exceed primary roles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remulan Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 ... facts are facts. Too bad your post didn't contain very many of them.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delavager Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Now that they removed shockfrozen water from beeing viable in WZ's... you can rejoice in you are one of the only classes able to pull 15 medals a WZ now. You can heal You can dmg You can protect And there are so many of you playing and bioware is already on such shakey ground, they will not touch any of those balance issues on your glass for at least a year, if this game can survive that long. This is not a L2P thread... or a I get killed by lots of other classes thread... this is a pure balance stand point that says your class gets way more than any other... facts are facts. This is not a L2P thread for the readers, this is a L2P thread for the OP. Sages and Sorcs can't guard. Assassins and Shadow's can't really heal. Definitely not enough to get medals. The MOST a Shadow/Assassin can get for healing is the 75k healing medal and that's a stretch. An all elements aligned with an as long as possible game. So again, learn the game, stop complaining about stuff you have no knowledge in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cragen Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Too bad your post didn't contain very many of them.... I agree, the amount of hyperbole flying around these forums is mindboggling. If you could harness the energy from it we would be a type 3 civilization by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_coaltrain Posted February 14, 2012 Author Share Posted February 14, 2012 (edited) This is not a L2P thread for the readers, this is a L2P thread for the OP. Sages and Sorcs can't guard. Assassins and Shadow's can't really heal. Definitely not enough to get medals. The MOST a Shadow/Assassin can get for healing is the 75k healing medal and that's a stretch. An all elements aligned with an as long as possible game. So again, learn the game, stop complaining about stuff you have no knowledge in. LOL .. the only medal in healing is the 75k that you can get and I don't know what I'm talking about? Typing is hard when my sides hurt so bad from the laughing of your quality post. Edited February 14, 2012 by the_coaltrain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jblazen Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 OP has no idea what he's talking about. ITT: He picked the wrong class and is mad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildcat Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Any sage that is doing damage in a warzone isn't doing their job unless they are DPS spec. A healspec Sage's damage is terrible. Heals are what you are supposed to do. Nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnakeAes Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 You can heal You can dmg You can protect Inquisitors and Consulars can only do two of those things at once, and 99% of the time, one far out-prioritizes the other. As has been already mentioned, Sages and Sorcs can't Guard, and Assassins and Shadows can't heal. I will not deny that Inquisitor and Consular both have high utility when spec'd properly - but they are not unbeatable and they are definitely not OP. The only thing you have to do in a warzone to reduce an Inquisitor or Consular's effectiveness (especially if they are a healer) is to just have one person be assigned to attacking them ALL THE TIME. This forces them to choose between their own survival and healing their teammates, and either way you are taking their attention away from something. If they die your opponents lose a healer, if they live your teammates kill your opponents. I don't see why that's so hard to figure out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jblazen Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Any sage that is doing damage in a warzone isn't doing their job unless they are DPS spec. A healspec Sage's damage is terrible. Heals are what you are supposed to do. Nothing else. What? Healers are supposed to heal? DPS is supposed to dmg? Thank you for the insightful wisdom! "Nothing else." Wrong. We can heal/dps depending on the situation. It makes us valuable and viable in all situations. When we have a ball carrier and I'm not in position to catch a pass, I keep him shielded and healed and I'm a dps sorc. It's about adapting to the situation and doing what is necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vember Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 This is not a L2P thread for the readers, this is a L2P thread for the OP. Assassins and Shadow's can't really heal. Definitely not enough to get medals. The MOST a Shadow/Assassin can get for healing is the 75k healing medal and that's a stretch. An all elements aligned with an as long as possible game. So again, learn the game, stop complaining about stuff you have no knowledge in. Battle Readiness? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSQViper Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 (edited) OP is so off track it's unbelievable. As a Healer Sorc I can tell you that all those damage medals are out of my reach unless I (A HEALER) am the worst healer in the world and I am going for damage. You talk like damage spec SI/JC are also healing gods or that a healer is also a damage god. They are not. you cannot even cross-breed them to be. It's especially difficult in Huttball to get the higher healing medals since people are moving and you can't toss down the AoE heal and heal at the same time. And I bet in 95% of the WZ you play you see DPS classes at the top of the list for medals and people with high heals are down around 4-5 medals. Edited February 14, 2012 by RSQViper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copasetic Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 (edited) Juggernauts can pull 17 medals, but the 5k heal / 75k healed are tricky to get Just wanted to point out that there are only 18 medals in the game so the most medals a non-healing specced class could get is 16 which I did before they removed the healing medals from Medpacs awhile back. Edited February 14, 2012 by copasetic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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