I don't care about how a race looks and you shouldn't either. I'm sure there are plenty of prepubescent kiddies that will love to roll one of them but I couldn't care less. I only care about the gameplay and PvP both of which I thoroughly enjoyed.

Umm did we play the same game? My friends and I found the leveling to be very good in the last closed beta weekend. I went from 1-22 in about 5 or 6 hours. And from what I hear from my friends that play KTera, the leveling curve stays roughly the same to 58 (now 60). The grind is nowhere near as bad Aion was don't blindly assume it's going to be the same.

I actually enjoy not being able to cancel an attack because it means you are forced to use each ability carefully and wisely instead of blindly using any ability you see that comes off cooldown. If you see an opening for a long animation ability, you better be certain you can aim it correctly and land it. This is just another element of skill in the game and if you don't want to adapt, then don't play it. And your point about dodging boss special attacks being too easy, this doesn't bother me at all considering I never said anything about the PvE in the game. I'll judge that once I've tried it more. But from the PvP I've done, I really enjoyed how skill based it was due to having to aim everything.

Actually, I'm more looking forward to Tera Online than GW2. After playing in the last Closed Beta test for Tera, I'm really enjoying the combat system and the PvP. The Guild vs Guild feature is something I'll never get tired of. I only mentioned GW2 because I know a lot of people are looking forward to it.

OP you are 100% correct. I seriously doubted Bioware would be this dumb but it appears they proved me wrong once again. See this link for proof: http://i42.tinypic.com/jzf708.png "Solo Ranked" and "Party Ranked" Bioware said 8 man Ops groups queuing is not going to be in 1.2. Here is a quote from a guy blogging the entire event: ranked warzone: full 8 people group allowed. timeline is TBD. Timeline TBD so for all we know, 8 man Ops ranked queue may not be till May or even June. By then, Tera Online will have been released and Guild Wars 2 is not far behind. GG Bioware. It was fun while it lasted.

They said it's not going to be in 1.2. Here is a quote from a guy blogging the entire event: ranked warzone: full 8 people group allowed. timeline is TBD. Timeline TBD so for all we know, 8 man Ops ranked queue may not be till May or even June. GG Bioware. It was fun while it lasted.

Hahahaha Bioware never ceases to amaze with their decision making. I think they are honestly trying to kill off their entire PvP population. I guess they are trying to keep enticing PvP players with promises of awesome additions that are coming "in the future." If 8 man Ops groups can't queue at the release of 1.2, there will be plenty of more unsubs coming your way Bioware.

I agree OP. You're right. The sad part is how they can't simply admit their failure with Ilum. I've lost all hope for Biowares PvP team and keeping telling myself that GW2 or even Tera (thank god US Closed Beta is next weekend again) can't come soon enough.

OP you are 100% correct. I seriously doubted Bioware would be this dumb but it appears they proved me wrong once again. See this link for proof: http://i42.tinypic.com/jzf708.png "Solo Ranked" and "Party Ranked" Unless Bioware suddenly changed the meaning of "Party" from a group of four to an Operations group of 8, they are NOT allowing 8 man Ops groups to queue. I don't understand why they aren't at least having the OPTION to specifically queue against other 8 man Ops groups. Why not satisfy everyone and give Solo Ranked, Party Ranked, and Ops Ranked? More options can never hurt.

[quote name='Noldat']What about the screenshot confirms the 4 person only?[/QUOTE] The fact that the screenshot only shows "Solo Ranked" and "Party Ranked" means there is no option for "Operations Ranked." A Party consist of FOUR people. Party =/= Operations Unless their UI is worded incorrectly or if Bioware suddenly changed the meaning of "Party" so that it means 8 man Operations groups, then I think it is safe to assume they aren't including 8 man Operations groups to queue.

I suggest you all read this carefully since it seems many of you are overlooking this: http://i42.tinypic.com/jzf708.png And this screenshot just confirmed my fears and might be the final nail in the coffin for SWToR for me. I kept thinking that BW can't be that dumb and would not allow full Operations to queue for Ranked Warzones but it seems I was wrong. It's already bad enough that you can't queue with more than 4 friends in WZs. But not allowing full 8 man Operations to queue for Ranked Warzones thus removing any incentive to keep playing? Sorry Bioware but this was the last straw for me. I'm sure others are thrilled about solo queue Ranked Warzones but I just can't keep overlooking Biowares mistakes. Why not at least add the OPTION to queue only against other 8 man Ops groups? More options never hurts.

Yep. And this just put the nail in the coffin in SWToR for me. I can understand having a solo ranked queue and a four man group ranked queue but why not at least give the OPTION of an 8 man Ops group (full guild/friends premade) queue? Bioware has been killing themselves over the past couple months (especially with all their "Ilum fixes" rofl) and this may be the final straw.

SWToR has already failed considering the majority of the stuff in 1.2 should have been in the game at launch. I love how James Ohlen is saying that 1.2 is going to be the biggest patch in any MMO yet it looks to still fail so hard. - Legacy system is basically useless for endgame. Who cares about a few extra races when races don't mean anything anyway (no racial skills/perks/benefits)? Legacy abilities only usable in PvE while leveling so this is pointless. Mailbox in ship saves me about a minute of time. Target dummy in ship to test my DPS without a combat log is pointless as well. I guess I can look closely at the numbers and keep writing them down on a piece of paper/put in an Excel spreadsheet? - Rated Warzones are going to be limited to two separate four man groups thus not allowing 8 man Operations (full guild/friends premade) to queue. This was the big nail in the coffin for me. - New Warzone will become stale in a couple days, especially if you already have Battlemaster gear. - New Operation will most likely too easy. It wouldn't surprise me if guilds started on Nightmare right away and cleared it in one night. - New Flashpoint is useless. Why run Flashpoints anymore when once you get in a raiding guild, you get all the gear/Biometric Alloy you need?

Surprised more people aren't noticing the fact that BW is not allowing 8 man Ops groups (full premade) for Rated Warzones and are instead doing two separate groups of four. I don't mind them allowing the option for a group of four to queue but why not allow a 8 man Ops to queue? They could even add an 8 man only queue specifically for these. I just don't understand why they aren't doing this.

1.2 is basically a huge fail for me so far and is the final nail in the coffin for SWToR. The biggest fault I've seen with 1.2 that is killing my hope for this game is the fact that full 8 man Operations not allowed to queue for Rated Warzones and it is instead going to be two separate groups of 4.