Scalare Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 No. That's different and happened before. Kills aren't counting towards the daily/weekly or awarding any valor at all. Any kill. For hours. Same here, at 0/30 and 0/150 after 3 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommythecat Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Hate to break it to you but the original MMOs were text and they were called MUDs and they have definitely been around for more than 20 years. In any case it doesn't matter. the point is that you super brainiac geniuses think that because MMOS have been out for many years that a company that never made an mmo should be better at it than the ones who actually have been making mmos for years. So, in conclusion, you are idiots with bad logic and are scrambling trying to twist something I said to mean something else in order to cover for your derptacular fantastic brainuerisms. What exactly can BioWare learn from MUDs? Nothing, the oldest 3D MMO is Meridian 59 and it was released in 95. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dovahbrah Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Another patch, another complete fail from BW PvP-wise. Keep the ineptness up guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xehoz Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 (edited) Yes an MMO Neverwinter was a online RPG. It wasn't an MMO. First MMO was probably Ultima Online (97). In the timeframe before WoW you also had Everquest and Asheron's Call (99). I'm sure there were others, though. Edited February 7, 2012 by Xehoz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skylerr Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 (edited) Hate to break it to you but the original MMOs were text and they were called MUDs and they have definitely been around for more than 20 years. In any case it doesn't matter. the point is that you super brainiac geniuses think that because MMOS have been out for many years that a company that never made an mmo should be better at it than the ones who actually have been making mmos for years. So, in conclusion, you are idiots with bad logic and are scrambling trying to twist something I said to mean something else in order to cover for your derptacular fantastic brainuerisms. Did anyone, ever, call MUDS MMOs? That term was clearly not in use until well after '96 (like nearly 5-10 years later). I suppose you may be technically right, but I hardly would expect Bioware to learn all about modern MMO game mechanics from the old MUDS. I mean.. seriously?! Edited February 7, 2012 by Skylerr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomiematiko Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 It isnt counting at all we camped the Empire base seing people leaving their base killed them 0 valor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelticfury Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 What exactly can BioWare learn from MUDs? Nothing, the oldest 3D MMO is Meridian 59 and it was released in 95. See the post you quoted and pay particular attention to the twisting and derptacular brainuerisms section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatanic Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 You also dont get the buff for controlling Ilum outposts when entering Ilum now. Moar broken.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skylerr Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 (edited) See the post you quoted and pay particular attention to the twisting and derptacular brainuerisms section. You don't get to make up some nonsense about people twisting words and pretend that defends your position... lol... well... I suppose you can... but no one is really buying it. Edited February 7, 2012 by Skylerr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommythecat Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 See the post you quoted and pay particular attention to the twisting and derptacular brainuerisms section. The section with made up words is what I should pay attention to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skylerr Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 You also dont get the buff for controlling Ilum outposts when entering Ilum now. Moar broken.... I've always had that issue... only get the buff intermittently since launch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senseistar Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 I just wanna say first off that this is the first post I have ever done on these forums yet. Because even with all the bugs(esp WZ dailies/weeklies not completely effectively) I still found this game to be tolerable (at least its not WoW right?). I'm not a very critical guy, stuff happens and I dont get all hyped up about it. But, today with this RIDICULOUS bug to Ilum(or fix to some ppl) has really gotten me, euphymistically, FRUSTRATED. To someone who has limited time to play every day with family and work obligations, not being able to complete your dailies/weeklies is just HEARTBREAKING. I am on Swiftsure and, usually, on every weekly reset day we will have over 100 ppl AT LEAST trying to get those weeklies done. TODAY WE HAVE 17 ppl! Ilum is dead. The only people there are the IMPS (who outnumber us repubs like every other server) who are desperately competing for the armanents in CA. Til they fix this, Ilum is dead and this compounded all the other bugs will really tick off people, even one's tolerable like me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keldaur Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Hate to break it to you but the original MMOs were text and they were called MUDs and they have definitely been around for more than 20 years. In any case it doesn't matter. the point is that you super brainiac geniuses think that because MMOS have been out for many years that a company that never made an mmo should be better at it than the ones who actually have been making mmos for years. So, in conclusion, you are idiots with bad logic and are scrambling trying to twist something I said to mean something else in order to cover for your derptacular fantastic brainuerisms. You know one M from MMO is about Massive, right ? Then you will understand why you are wrong about the MUDs. But hey, doesn't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelticfury Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 You don't get to make up some nonsense about people twisting words and pretend that defends your position... lol... well... I suppose you can... but no one is really buying it. Ok since you have reading comprehension issues I will repeat it one more time. I'll make it all caps and in color so you can't miss it this time. YOU CAN'T EXPECT A COMPANY WHO NEVER MADE AN MMO TO BE BETTER AT IT THAN A COMPANY THAT HAS BEEN MAKING MMOS FOR YEARS And I didn't confuse the issue by using the word companies this time, because the concept of a plural meaning more than one is obviously too much to grasp for you intentionaly obtuse folks who are still trying to change what I said and turn it into a conversation about who gives a **** mmos out 20 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelticfury Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 GG on flagging my post. Guess it hit a little too close to home. See ya Champs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xehoz Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 (edited) The term MMO simply didn't exit 20 years ago. Sorry. It only began to be common when we were nearing 2000. You can't even say it started when it was first spoken. So many subgenres have been named... where are they now? Edited February 7, 2012 by Xehoz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trushott Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Ilum works on my server.And if these changes are to stop kill trading and valor farming most of us are happy. no ilum does not work on your server ... sorry but you have either lost your mind or do not pvp or if you do pvp do so infrequently and have not the slightest clue about what pvp should be sorry dont take this personal ... im just a little frustrated at bioware atm and anyone cheerleading them just doesnt have all the information at hand to make an informed decison on whether bioware is doing a good job on pvp imho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TetraCleric Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 no ilum does not work on your server ... sorry but you have either lost your mind or do not pvp or if you do pvp do so infrequently and have not the slightest clue about what pvp should be sorry dont take this personal ... im just a little frustrated at bioware atm and anyone cheerleading them just doesnt have all the information at hand to make an informed decison on whether bioware is doing a good job on pvp imho heyyoooo FA upset? why so mod bro? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ukita Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 The definition of an MMO isn't what's important here, it's why Bioware felt the need to make dailies impossible to do on some servers. People will claim they get credit, and a good majority claim they aren't. Here's how it works on The Crucible Pits: 1. Imperials will control Ilum for about 23 out of 24 hours in the day. We'll sit inside of our base and pick off as many people as we can by either catching them off guard, or pulling them in. Sometimes we'll leave our base and try and gank people, but there are usually so many imperials we'll probably die before we can get a good number of kills. 2. For 1 hour a day, 2 when the weeklies reset, Ruin will set up a massive raid group, which will cut the server in 2; 50 republic 50 imperials, and we'll fight it out. That's really the only time a lot of people can get their dailies done with the huge imbalance in republic to imperial ratio. If this is by design, then I'm pretty much ****ed. I rely on that 1 hour a day where I can get my daily done, because any other time and I'm hoping I can kill someone before I get ganked by the forever roaming 15 man imperial raid at center. Valor is a good motivator, but ultimately I get on, get my daily done, and leave... Today I got on, tried to get a few kills, and left disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhazelwood Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Like most low pop servers ilum involves a 10 player same faction NASCAR race for crates. We would usually have 4 to 5 Repubs come and take us down and thats how we would get our dailies now.... Now instead of it taking 2 hours to do our dailies its going to take 5 due to reduce crate spawn times and the kills no longer counting to our dailies. Most servers don't have 40 on 40 kill trading, as most servers don't have 40 level 50's online at the same time. Way to not care once again about all those players you directed to low pop servers at launch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzazaelLoki Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Like most low pop servers ilum involves a 10 player same faction NASCAR race for crates. We would usually have 4 to 5 Repubs come and take us down and thats how we would get our dailies now.... Now instead of it taking 2 hours to do our dailies its going to take 5 due to reduce crate spawn times and the kills no longer counting to our dailies. Most servers don't have 40 on 40 kill trading, as most servers don't have 40 level 50's online at the same time. Way to not care once again about all those players you directed to low pop servers at launch. You do realize that crates respawn at the same time right, and that CHESTS had theirs changed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djpravda Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 This game will be remembered for many FAILS but most people will be mentioning LoLIlum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SentinelBorg Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Don't know mate, i logged in just about 20 minutes ago and after gathering the quests in the imperial fleet went straight to ilum. I was wandering alone to try and catch some pubs far from the usual zerg. But again of around 5 o 6 different solo kills getting no credit is a bit strange. Funny thing i got +90 valor from a kill but the quest tracker is at 0/30 Hex Droid server Eu Same for me on Jar'Kai Sword. Got online, went to Ilum and didn't get a single counted kill since then. Neither solo, nor in the zerg or in the other instance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark-of-Knight Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Neverwinter was a online RPG. It wasn't an MMO. First MMO was probably Ultima Online (97). In the timeframe before WoW you also had Everquest and Asheron's Call (99). I'm sure there were others, though. He was talking about Neverwinter Nights on AOL and Compuserve that started in 1991. Yes, it was a graphical MMO with PvP, et all. Had about 115k players by around 96 or 97. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keldaur Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 This game will be remembered for many FAILS but most people will be mentioning LoLIlum! It's FaIlum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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