Skuke_Likewalker Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 This argument is pathetic and tired. WoW didn't launch with BG's 7 years ago you are right. But last time I checked this wasn't 7 years ago. Anything released currently must be in line or better than the current products not 7 years ago. Launching with BGs is a STANDARD now, so stop with this tired pathetic excuse for an argument. Well said !!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darth_knine Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Agree comparing to what games had 7 years ago is dumb. SWG is just so happens pre-cu/nge like 8 years ago had way better pvp than SWTOR does today and a much better system. You could be republic or empire or neutral and you were only flagged for pvp when you were in operative status. Yes I know this isn't SWG2. Anyway whatever every MMO to come to market has better pvp than SWTOR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhetulos Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 I also unsubbed and cause was PvP. And this is very sad, because I had very high hopes for this game. But good story and voice acting doesn't keep a MMO alive for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cakeyeah Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 (edited) Cancelled about 30 seconds after I entered the reg code and sub details. Endgame PvP is a joke in it's current state and I'll happily vote with my wallet. Edited January 3, 2012 by cakeyeah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitte Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Just unsubbed. money loose is the only launuage they understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amythiel Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Unsubbed and gave PvP as a reason. If they manage to give lv50's their own bracket within the 15 days I have left I may sub back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gratus_Mortuus Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 You forgot a lot of us were beta testers and these very problems were talked about and brought up in mass and fell on deaf ears. So to us it's been months that they haven't been listening. This has been explained to me previously. A guild mate told me Closed Beta Testers also told them at length how over powered Operatives & Scoundrels were and still nothing was done let alone the lack of any bracket, etc. Not encouraging at all. Lineage ][ is F2P now and can level to 65 in less than a week. I think I'd rather play there and have clan wars and castle sieges at no cost. -Gratus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limibeans Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 The problem is that 50's are in the same bracket as everyone else. 50's need their own bracket. =50 = one bracket =/=50 = own bracket. We need two brackets. One for 50's and one for people who are not. A level 49 vs. a level 10 is no where near the same as a level 50 in full pvp gear vs. a level 10. I've seen IA's with more HP than me (3k more hp) and who crit me for 5k as a heavy armor user in Soresu form. I assume the same goes for Smugglers. I have never been hit nearly that hard by a level 49. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayemaker Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 I also unsubbed and cause was PvP. And this is very sad, because I had very high hopes for this game. But good story and voice acting doesn't keep a MMO alive for a long time. I can't even be bothered to quest all the way to the end. So bored of running point a to point b, kllling x mobs, collect x garbage. It just never ends... I want good pvp. only reason i play (ed). I think i'm done now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kshahdoo Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Unsubbed long ago. Problem is I have 60 free days, heh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolgan Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Well, when this game launched i deceided i would try to get into the pvp straight away, which i did and really enjoyed it when the highest level was a 20. Had some great fights. Problem is, i didnt want to level too quick as i wanted to stay on target with the story levels etc. Pvp gives way too much xp initially and it put me off doing too much. Now, i don't bother. Every time i go into a WZ empire side is just full of 50's. All you see in empire fleet is 50's. My main is republic, and theres nowhere near as many. Considering BW did such a great job (imo) on the rest of the game, the pvp has gone to the dogs and i doubt i'll bother with it again unless they bracket it or something. It's just not fun. Pvp is yet again, like most other mmo's, the realm of the hardcore players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nharet Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 I cancelled and have gotten 22 people to cancel as well. I will keep encouraging everyone I meet in PvP who has the same complaints to cancel as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kebabz Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 14 days left. PvP is broken, been a long time, bioware have been made aware of it through all channels. No announcements, no nothing. I say good day bioware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordius Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 They are going to loose 100 of my lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nharet Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 14 days left. Pvp is broken, been a long time, bioware have been made aware of it through all channels. No announcements, no nothing. I say good day bioware. yep!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andruce Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Cancelled. Refuse to subscribe to an mmorpg that does not implement basic mmorpg features. i CANNOT UNDERSTAND how these developers don't learn from the mistakes of their predecessors. :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeraith Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Cancelled my subscription. The "singleplayer" portion of the game is fine, but they really should've left the mmo part out entirely since it seems they can't handle it. It's Warhammer Online all over again. Won't resub till they fix the horrid bugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyphen Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 If you are unhappy with anything, why would you keep doing it? Unless its a job, then its a different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatduck Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 "We have an entire team dedicated to adding content and features to player vs. player. We have some of the most experienced PvP developers in the world on this team. So far very few people have seen, or know much about the stunning Open World PVP on Ilum" - Bioware Ilum really is quite stunning. The terrain is beautiful, very calming. Good thing I'm free to enjoy it since the zone is ALWAYS EMPTY because it's POINTLESS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andruce Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 If you are unhappy with anything, why would you keep doing it? Unless its a job, then its a different story. Or a really really hot chick thats really mean... id keep doing it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilford Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Warhammer has better pvp than this game... The truth of that is so so so so sad... =( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Zajo- Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 (edited) Enjoy the game a lot as a single player game. I do my quests, I follow the story, I barely ever space through a dialog. Doing pve I'm content, many things could be done better (as always) but over all they did a great job. Now I'm a pvp'er at heart. All mmo's I've played since 2000 I have focused on pvp, some mmo's only pvp. I love everything about it and my fav char to play is full out healer. The healing side in swtor is an abomination. By far the worst healer I've played (apart from pve, where it's nice). So not only am I unable to play the style I enjoy but the entire pvp system is a joke. A few examples I mind * The lack of brackets* The fairy dust/colour splatter warzones (I mean come on, are we ... 6?)* The immense lag (prolly cause of all overdone fairy dust)* Only 3 warzones (zzz)* The annoying debuffing every time you die not to mention loss of group* Inability to have enemy and defensive target at same time* What's up with the giving away medals? Do we really need to ego boost on that? Personally I think dps/healing/objectives points are enough* I wanna see the enemy team (names/stats/lvl etc) at the beginning of the warzone and through it all via a "warzone window"* One thing that wont change but that I do feel is sad is the fact we can fight our side in warzones and the ability to roll both races on same server. It removes the feel of server pride* Obvious over powered characters* The fast pace, more fighting than dieing would be appreciated ... and that's only a few (tried not going into details) From my point of view, all we want is to fight each other. If it happens in a nice setting, great, if not then we will be happy if the fighting works. We want it to be semi balanced and all classes should bare importance. We just wanna play what we enjoy spending our time on. Then you'll have our money, pls respect that. Again I'd like to point out everything in my post is my own personal feeling and experiance from the game. Subscription will end when I'm tired of the pve. Edited January 4, 2012 by -Zajo- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rizick Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 The whole excuse that there are not enough high level players for brackets is sheer idiocy. Why does the rest of the server have to get stomped by level 50 pvp players or choose to not pvp at all because they didn't level fast enough? Bioware said it themselves in a complaint about no open world pvp on Illum, or people in que for high level flashpoints. The overwhelming majority of players are in the sub level 30 range of the game at this point, taking their time. Rushing to level 50 comes with a price, and that is that it's pretty lonely at the top for a while. Exactly! So why the hell is this such a difficult concept to grasp with pvp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vislo Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Unsubbing on a large scale this early on will HURT Bioware rather than HELP bioware, some of you were testers, alright. But since you were testers you've had the time to decide whether or not you're going to get a STORY BASED MMO and of course have had the time to probably PvP yourself. No who am I kidding if you're unsubbed just because PvP then you've definitely PvP'd during the beta. Bioware said this game would be profitable with only 500K subs and if its below that for the FIRST month then the PRODUCTION of this game will SLOW DOWN. Now i'm pretty sure from all these PvP threads Bioware is well aware of the PvP situation. but sorry folks PvP comes 2nd to a story based MMO. Lets be honest give this game a chance and it will improve or just leave now and wait longer. Another honest thing is that I don't love the PvP in this game, I think its "ok", but has tons of room for improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthCorvinus Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 I really wish people who will not be playing anymore would just unsub and get off the forums already. I'm sick of coming to the PvP section and seeing "I R NOT SUBS NO MORE CUZ PVP IS BROKDED" in every single thread. Some actual PvP chat would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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