Casual players often finish content. And casual players make pvp fun. I have great fun joining scens/ warzones/ whatever you want to call them as part of team. But I also have great fun pugging, playing alongside randoms against randoms. If the game comes down to leets v leets, eventually you end up with just the core of the best players fighting each other all the time. And it gets boring. Believe me. You let leets rule the game, and the game gets dull

I can't even be bothered to quest all the way to the end. So bored of running point a to point b, kllling x mobs, collect x garbage. It just never ends... I want good pvp. only reason i play (ed). I think i'm done now.

I do not understand your point. Apologies if English is not your 1st language, but you make no sense. Majority of players on MMOs are casual, at least initially. Most people don't have the time to devote 20+ hours a week to games. These must be considered important subscribers.

Fail nerdtroll is fail. I'm ashamed of myself for bumping a tard thread.

3. dudes who invented bombing have a lot to anser for. The dudes who didn't fix it, and let every guild in the game adopt it until you to into a laggy nukefest deserve to be hung by their balls until detached from them.

Qft. "leets" kill mmos. these games live or die on casual players. You stomp then in every game, they aren't goint to be having fun, and they leave. Less subs, less dev, game dies. I still think that was the main problem in warhammer (and I'll accept i was a part of it). Game has to be casual player friendly. Essential.

I'm sorry, but you guys are all f'ing retarded. Warhammer had 4 brackets from day 1. And guess what. You didn't queue for longer than 5 minutes. Unless you were one of the first to 40 in the first month. In which case, you had to wait almost as much as 10 minutes. (Sometimes).

Whats annoying is that it doesn't effect everyone. I've seen vids of guys running around without lag. And its not related to quality of machine. That much is obvious. I've already unsubscribed because I can't see how large scale orvr can be possible when you have performance issues this bad in 8v8. That, and the constant crashing on "enter warzone".

Warhammer was F'ing fantastic in the early/ mid days. It died as Mythic systematically made it worse instead of improving it, and casual players (the lifeblood of any MMO) were shunted out by the leets who loved stomping them in seconds with their uber gear and tactics then laughing at them. But the combat was great until the end game gear escalation took over.

Warhammer PVP was great at release. Not perfect. But pretty damned awesome. It was systematically broken by Mythic, but that took years. The best thing about it, you hardly had to set foot in PVE for the whole game if you didn't want to. You could get all the levels and gear you needed from PVP.

Most republic players on my server aren't great. Not a lot that can be done about it, except play as a premade team and get your tactics fixed so you win the ones you are in. Lots of bad empire players too, just at the moment, republic are worse. Although I do see side imbalance becoming a problem in terms of numbers of players if openworld pvp actually picks up. Best solution is a 3rd faction, but I don't see that ever becoming workable if it wasn't done at launch.

Good for you mate. Get your own tanks and healers, don't die so you don't constantly go back to respawn, assist targets with the rest of the team, and you'll find yourself doing more dps than the tanks again. Or don't. Have a tantrum whenever you lose to a team working together and eventually rage quit. I really don't care.

Less announcing, more doing.

Your attitude is confusing. Do you not think a premade team with a good setup should be able to beat a solo player who thinks he just needs to pop on one of them and repeat his combo to win? Best team combinations in game should include tanks using guard. And you should not be able to beat a guarded player without help. You'll find that this team you are complaining about would struggle against a 2 dps 1 healer 1 tank team though. Their tanks only do as much damage as dps because they don't die. They'll die if they get focussed.

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