eabevella Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, AliciaWolfe said: How does this fix inflation? what they just did will make prices rise more for compensations for travel by 20-40% If I get 1B for every time a person didn't see the sarcasm in my original replay, I'll get 2B, which is not much but still something. Jokes aside, either I'm terrible at sarcasm/irony, or this is a warning to BW because apparently most people don't think QT fees is hlping in any way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliciaWolfe Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 3 minutes ago, eabevella said: If I get 1B for every time a person didn't see the sarcasm in my original replay, I'll get 2B, which is not much but still something. Jokes aside, either I'm terrible at sarcasm/irony, or this is a warning to BW because apparently most people don't think QT fees is hlping in any way. ah so forgot to put in the /sarcasm at the end of your sarcasm like every normal netizen does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eabevella Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 5 minutes ago, AliciaWolfe said: ah so forgot to put in the /sarcasm at the end of your sarcasm like every normal netizen does. Unfortunately, yes lol For real though, I still don't know why BW is sensible enough to add a "don't bother me I have money" option to the pop up window (I clicked it the moment I saw that window) but not able to see how useless this "credit sink" is. It's not the first step we need if all it does is inconvenience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliciaWolfe Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 5 minutes ago, eabevella said: Unfortunately, yes lol For real though, I still don't know why BW is sensible enough to add a "don't bother me I have money" option to the pop up window (I clicked it the moment I saw that window) but not able to see how useless this "credit sink" is. It's not the first step we need if all it does is inconvenience. So they can make the poor people leave, keep the whales so they can slowly turn this game into a NFT project and implement blockchain technology. /sarcasm They should of done this when the game was being developed if they want this to begin with, not super late in development like this, i guess they wanted to be like FFXI and FFXIV on teleport tax, but put it QT instead... Sarcasm: and not add in toll taxes for docking your ships on the stations, refueling starfighter cost, companion weekly cost, the random event that a thief stoled some of your credits... what else am i missing...? /sarcasm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eabevella Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 21 minutes ago, AliciaWolfe said: So they can make the poor people leave, keep the whales so they can slowly turn this game into a NFT project and implement blockchain technology. /sarcasm They should of done this when the game was being developed if they want this to begin with, not super late in development like this, i guess they wanted to be like FFXI and FFXIV on teleport tax, but put it QT instead... Sarcasm: and not add in toll taxes for docking your ships on the stations, refueling starfighter cost, companion weekly cost, the random event that a thief stoled some of your credits... what else am i missing...? /sarcasm Pay 5k to log out. If you Alt+F4, you can't log in unless you pay 5k or 10cc (Hope no one thinks I actually think that's a good idea) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliciaWolfe Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 4 minutes ago, eabevella said: Pay 5k to log out. If you Alt+F4, you can't log in unless you pay 5k or 10cc (Hope no one thinks I actually think that's a good idea) That's a good idea, double that for each patch you have to install. Have they ever introduce loot boxes yet? (doubtful people will believe this is a good idea). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traceguy Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 That's nothing. Try using QT on Nar Shaddaa next to the Taxi droid. It's 2000+ to QT to the next taxi, or 170 credits to just take the taxi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traceguy Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 11 hours ago, Chryptyk said: the quick travel costs are really insignificant. you can make those credits back up just from killing trash or doing a mission in minutes. So your options are: spend 5 minutes killing mobs to afford QT or spend 5 minutes walking to avoid QT. ??? Really ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chryptyk Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 i'm well off enough, i just QT. a little detail people are neglecting while they are "trying to protect new people" is that new people will not be a high enough legacy level to have unlocked instant quick travel CD. by the time you have instant CD on quick travel, creds should not be an issue. in the regular course of just doing missions and killing things, you should be able to afford QT just fine. if you can't, then you're playing wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traceguy Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 3 minutes ago, Chryptyk said: i'm well off enough, i just QT. a little detail people are neglecting while they are "trying to protect new people" is that new people will not be a high enough legacy level to have unlocked instant quick travel CD. by the time you have instant CD on quick travel, creds should not be an issue. in the regular course of just doing missions and killing things, you should be able to afford QT just fine. if you can't, then you're playing wrong. Even if the CD on QT was 1 hours, it's still too much to ask a new player to pay 2,000 credits to QT back to the Jedi Temple from a cave a million miles away, when their story mission is giving them less than 100 credits per mission. These players on Tython don't have 2,000 credits. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christie_Swift Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 (edited) OMG Who the heck tested these changes in PTS and said these were good. Trying to fix credit inflation by punishing ALL the game players? If there is too much money out there why don't they come out with things that one "chooses to spend" on credit sinks rather than to pass costs to ALL. This does not make sense at all. Like it has been said the poor players will become poorer and those with a ton of resources won't care. This is LAZY at best to fix a credit economy. Sell Items that those with money would like to buy or at least like in other MMOs ask players for ways to curve credit inflation. I'm a casual player and this will motivate me even to play less IMHO. Edited March 29, 2023 by Christie_Swift 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWho Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 8 minutes ago, Christie_Swift said: OMG Who the heck tested these changes in PTS and said these were good. Trying to fix credit inflation by punishing ALL the game players? If there is too much money out there why don't they come out with things that one "chooses to spend" on credit sinks rather than to pass costs to ALL. This does not make sense at all. Like it has been said the poor players will become poorer and those with a ton of resources won't care. This is LAZY at best to fix a credit economy. Sell Items that those with money would like to buy or at least like in other MMOs ask players for ways to curve credit inflation. I'm a casual player and this will motivate me even to play less IMHO. Pretty much no one thought they were good. Just look at the PTS thread about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
commanderwar Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 (edited) The QT changes are the worse. 26 pages of feedback and suggestions only for it to be ignored and for people to waste there time giving feedback. Really puts 7.2.1 in a less positive light, when it should be really positive with the upgrades they made. Again this really only hurt new players and that's the problem. It shouldn't hurt new players, it gives them a bad impression of the game. Edited March 29, 2023 by commanderwar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrixxieTriss Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 9 hours ago, LD_Little_Dragon said: It's not a flat rate as in 'always the same' but from the patch notes: It's based on how far you travel. So large planets, like Nar Shaddaa will have higher travel costs then small planets like Ruhnuk. It's divorced completely from either player level or planet level. So essentially using quick travel to avoid the really long taxi rides, or even longer speeder rides, is what will cost the most. It's a bonkers decision to go live with. Imagine what Alderan will be like then 🤦♀️, 5000 for every QT on Alders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enriquezarmy Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 I agree with most of you, We already paid in our legacy to unlock quick travel as a convenience this makes no sense and is dumb on EA/Biowares part. I hope they see the community reaction to this and reverse it. If you wanted to fix the broken economy then reset everyone's credits to 0 and shut down GTN for 24 hours, sucks but fair. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sappharan Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 7 hours ago, Christie_Swift said: This is LAZY at best to fix a credit economy. Sell Items that those with money would like to buy or at least like in other MMOs ask players for ways to curve credit inflation. I'm a casual player and this will motivate me even to play less IMHO. They continue to amaze me how much they hate their own players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeMage Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 I'm at my Rishi stronghold. To exit area It costs 2,800 credits to go to Rishi. and 120 credits to go to fleet. Seems stupid to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeannaVoyager Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 20 hours ago, Christie_Swift said: OMG Who the heck tested these changes in PTS and said these were good. Trying to fix credit inflation by punishing ALL the game players? If there is too much money out there why don't they come out with things that one "chooses to spend" on credit sinks rather than to pass costs to ALL. This does not make sense at all. Like it has been said the poor players will become poorer and those with a ton of resources won't care. Agree with everything, but I noticed a funny thing from what I was doing: I haven't disabled the notification of QT cost yet, so I will need to confirm every QT payment separately. What I found myself doing, I checked the price, if it was over 1000cr, I decided to mount up and get to nearest taxi and use a taxi instead. I'm a multi-billionaire, but paying for QT still bothers me. I could afford quick travelling all day long, but I don't want to now. Since I'm barely playing this game anymore, I have time to use taxi or a mount when I do play. So the only thing this change did for me, it took away a QoL thing I used for years, but it's not reducing the money I have. If the idea was to pull some credits out of the game, it's not working, not in my case anyhow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xhuuyaa Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 (edited) I think at this point a "Thank you for being here"-Tax which will charge you every time you login with 1% of all your credits would be the best solution. Edited March 30, 2023 by Xhuuyaa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadax Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 I really don't get this decision... The only people that will suffer are those that are poor or new to the game. Those with billions will continue to fast travel, and still be able to easily make enough credits to absorb the cost without thinking. This really needs to be undone and rethought.....it is closing the stable door after the horse has bolted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramahar Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 Received the biggest laugh concerning the distance travel charge equation when I went too exit my Stronghold on Carrick Station and found there was a quick travel charge to exit to fleet. What is next a charge to take the elevator from Fleet to get to the Cartel Bazaar? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWho Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 11 minutes ago, Ramahar said: Received the biggest laugh concerning the distance travel charge equation when I went too exit my Stronghold on Carrick Station and found there was a quick travel charge to exit to fleet. What is next a charge to take the elevator from Fleet to get to the Cartel Bazaar? First they need a tax for using your personal speeder, then a tax for walking anywhere, then we'll start draining those credits from the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrixxieTriss Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 12 minutes ago, DWho said: First they need a tax for using your personal speeder, then a tax for walking anywhere, then we'll start draining those credits from the game Tax to login 🤷🏻♀️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWho Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 11 minutes ago, TrixxieTriss said: Tax to login 🤷🏻♀️ How about a tax to log out. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BladedDingo Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Ramahar said: Received the biggest laugh concerning the distance travel charge equation when I went too exit my Stronghold on Carrick Station and found there was a quick travel charge to exit to fleet. What is next a charge to take the elevator from Fleet to get to the Cartel Bazaar? when you entered your fleet stronghold, were you on the fleet? or were you on another planet, traveled to the fleet stronghold and now want to exit to the fleet? Because if you were on the fleet, then exited back to the fleet, you wouldn't be charged anything. but if you were on another planet and used the stronghold as a teleport to the fleet, then you are charged a travel fee for exiting to the fleet. if you'd instead exited the stronghold back to what ever planet you were on, you'd not have been charged anything at all. Exiting the stronghold at the stronghold location when you entered it from anywhere else now charges you the same amount it would have if you traveled there via your ship on the galaxy map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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