Dev Post JackieKo Posted July 25, 2022 Dev Post Share Posted July 25, 2022 Morning everyone, We will be hosting a 7.1 Livestream on July 28, 1:00 PM CT (6:00 PM UTC) over on our Twitch channel. We'll be going over what's coming in 7.1, and you'll also be hearing from several devs as well. See you soon! Jackie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RikuvonDrake Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 will there be 8 developers doing the first boss of new raid on story mode and will eric be playing op healer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emilydeylan Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 Yay 5 almost 6 months since the expansion release, no major patches in-between and nothing new except the cartel market, and you've finally come out with 7.1. too bad you don't have galactic season 3 ready or 4 ahead of time so there is an incentive to play the game past the initial 2 months a new raid/daily zone will get ya, lets hope 7.1.5. and 7.2.0. come out much faster next time, but judging with your past record we can expect 7.1.5. in 5 months and then a new expansion announcement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nee-Elder Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 (edited) We will be hosting a 7.1 Livestream on July 28, We'll be going over what's coming in 7.1, and you'll also be hearing from several devs as well. Cool ...and , if possible, please address the 2 questions i had posted in the other 'Dev' thread. ( specifically, regarding the defunct Dev Blog link and also regarding possible GSF support ) . Also, please find time to do a *bug bash* --> https://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=1005574 Thanks. Edited July 25, 2022 by Nee-Elder i really wish i could HELP u guys more, as 'QA' or 'story content writer' or something.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarova Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 Morning everyone, We will be hosting a 7.1 Livestream on July 28, 1:00 PM CT (6:00 PM UTC) over on our Twitch channel. We'll be going over what's coming in 7.1, and you'll also be hearing from several devs as well. See you soon! Jackie I'm begging all you: please do not say "we're excited to bring you...". I can't take the false hope any more (Unless you're excited to bring us more Quinn/Theron/Rivix/Jorgan/Vector/Zenith content. I'd welcome that excitement ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakRoanin Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 All I want to hear is ALL the broken FP's are fixed. If I can't get past Malgus on Augst 3rd. I quit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mentalmackem Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 Just be honest with us please. No more a "year long celebration with content" then nothing for 6 months. If we are only goig to get one more update before December then say that. Don't say big update if its not a big update just be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthCasus Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 Are you going to be taking actual questions in chat? Otherwise, why not release this as a video or a typed out post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdast Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 (edited) I hope people temper or calibrate their expectations. Jackie made it clear that the stream is about 7.1. If past precedent is any guide, they will only do some light foreshadowing about what lies ahead. I don't think I've ever seen them get out ahead of themselves on these streams. In many ways, though, the new team is in a 'damned if we do; damned if don't' situation. On other social media platforms (e.g., Twitter and Reddit), this announcement is getting savaged. Players have been yearning for more communication, and we are getting it (finally). Some seem to want apologies. But the notion that Eric is going to do the Cersei walk of shame buck naked through the halls of Bioware with Jackie dressed up as Septa Unella walking behind him ringing a bell saying "Shame!" is a bit absurd (as much fun as that would be to see! ). We don't need to tell them that Legacy of the Sith got off to a rocky start. They know that. But a new team is in place with both the Lead Game Designer departing last month and now Charles (sadly, in my view) departing in August. I'm hardly white knighting here. Few have been more critical of 7.0 (and, frankly, for me, since 6.3) than I have -- and my spending for the game since December 2020 reflects that disappointment. I prefer, though, to be forward looking. For this particular stream, however, I'm only expecting them to discuss 7.1, introduce the new team, and pay homage to Charles (rightfully so). I only anticipate some vague commitments about what lies ahead. Frankly, though, if I were the new team, I do think this situation is a bit atypical. As such, I think it behooves them to give a bit more of a preview of things to come than they typically do in these streams to instill some confidence in the player base. As always, the usual caveats would apply about not promising specific dates and things being subject to change, etc. Dasty Edited July 26, 2022 by Jdast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlBuzzard Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 I hope people temper or calibrate their expectations. Jackie made it clear that the stream is about 7.1. If past precedent is any guide, they will only do some light foreshadowing about what lies ahead. I don't think I've ever seen them get out ahead of themselves on these streams. In many ways, though, the new team is in a 'damned if we; damned if don't' situation. On other social media platforms (e.g., Twitter and Reddit), this announcement is getting savaged. Players have been yearning for more communication, and we are getting it (finally). Some seem to want apologies. But the notion that Eric is going to do the Cersei walk of shame buck naked through the halls of Bioware with Jackie dressed up as Septa Unella walking behind him ringing a bell saying "Shame!" is a bit absurd (as much fun as that would be to see! ). We don't need to tell them that Legacy of the Sith got off to a rocky start. They know that. But a new team is in place with both the Lead Game Designer departing last month and now Charles (sadly, in my view) departing in August. I'm hardly white knighting here. Few have been more critical of 7.0 (and, frankly, for me, since 6.3) than I have -- and my spending for the game since December 2020 reflects that disappointment. I prefer, though, to be forward looking. For this particular stream, however, I'm only expecting them to discuss 7.1, introduce the new team, and pay homage to Charles (rightfully so). I only anticipate some vague commitments about what lies ahead. Frankly, though, if I were the new team, I do think this situation is a bit atypical. As such, I think it behooves them to give a bit more of a preview of things to come than they typically do in these streams to instill some confidence in the player base. As always, the usual caveats would apply about not promising specific dates and things being subject to change, etc. Dasty Agreed! IMO giving the "new team" an opportunity to make things right and the encouragement needed to move forward is simply the right thing to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mentalmackem Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 I hope people temper or calibrate their expectations. Jackie made it clear that the stream is about 7.1. If past precedent is any guide, they will only do some light foreshadowing about what lies ahead. I don't think I've ever seen them get out ahead of themselves on these streams. In many ways, though, the new team is in a 'damned if we; damned if don't' situation. On other social media platforms (e.g., Twitter and Reddit), this announcement is getting savaged. Players have been yearning for more communication, and we are getting it (finally). Some seem to want apologies. But the notion that Eric is going to do the Cersei walk of shame buck naked through the halls of Bioware with Jackie dressed up as Septa Unella walking behind him ringing a bell saying "Shame!" is a bit absurd (as much fun as that would be to see! ). We don't need to tell them that Legacy of the Sith got off to a rocky start. They know that. But a new team is in place with both the Lead Game Designer departing last month and now Charles (sadly, in my view) departing in August. I'm hardly white knighting here. Few have been more critical of 7.0 (and, frankly, for me, since 6.3) than I have -- and my spending for the game since December 2020 reflects that disappointment. I prefer, though, to be forward looking. For this particular stream, however, I'm only expecting them to discuss 7.1, introduce the new team, and pay homage to Charles (rightfully so). I only anticipate some vague commitments about what lies ahead. Frankly, though, if I were the new team, I do think this situation is a bit atypical. As such, I think it behooves them to give a bit more of a preview of things to come than they typically do in these streams to instill some confidence in the player base. As always, the usual caveats would apply about not promising specific dates and things being subject to change, etc. Dasty Rocky is a understatement. The best thing they can do is just be honest, they massively oversold Legacy of Sith and what was promised for the year long celebration and fell colossally short. If they want open constructive communication with the community that needs to start with honesty from them. What can we expect in the 5 months remaining of the year long celebration? 1 more update and some minor bug fix patches? if yes then tell us that. Whats been cut from long list of things we where told would come in 2022? Just tell us and be honest. More Bioware smoke and mirrors will just upset the community more. Livestreams going to be really rough, sadly Bioware will need to take the punches for a little while and try to build trust. If they aren't honest or go silent again the community will get more riled up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralGyro Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 about time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exly Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 Rocky is a understatement. The best thing they can do is just be honest, they massively oversold Legacy of Sith and what was promised for the year long celebration and fell colossally short. I've lost hope, and don't expect them to be honest with us. It just isn't in their nature to speak the truth. They tell us what they think we want to hear, and what they wish were true, but based on past statements made by them that have been proven false, I don't trust them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codydmaan Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 Morning everyone, We will be hosting a 7.1 Livestream on July 28, 1:00 PM CT (6:00 PM UTC) over on our Twitch channel. We'll be going over what's coming in 7.1, and you'll also be hearing from several devs as well. See you soon! Jackie I hope yall apologize how everyone handled 7.0 and mismanaged practically everything. Apologies go along way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarova Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 (edited) I hope people temper or calibrate their expectations. Jackie made it clear that the stream is about 7.1. If past precedent is any guide, they will only do some light foreshadowing about what lies ahead. Preceded by at least 10 minutes of them telling us what they done so far from 7.0 to now. I expect them to tell us about the updated UI, the bugs they've fixed, the "story" content and the CM market. They really should LEAVE OUT anything that's been done so far in the 7.0 launch as it's rubbish (garbage). ETA: On other social media platforms (e.g., Twitter and Reddit), this announcement is getting savaged. I usually stay away from the SWTOR Twitter account as it's usually full of people worshipping anything they do. Based on your comment, I just had a look and WOW savaged indeed. Edited July 26, 2022 by Sarova Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ardrossan Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 (edited) In many ways, though, the new team is in a 'damned if we do; damned if don't' situation. On other social media platforms (e.g., Twitter and Reddit), this announcement is getting savaged. Players have been yearning for more communication, and we are getting it (finally). Some seem to want apologies. But the notion that Eric is going to do the Cersei walk of shame buck naked through the halls of Bioware with Jackie dressed up as Septa Unella walking behind him ringing a bell saying "Shame!" is a bit absurd (as much fun as that would be to see! ). Dasty The devs seem to frequently underestimate player anger, deflect, do anything except take responsibility for it. The answer is not a walk of shame, it's to be HONEST for once: no more excuses or fake positivity, and no more deleting posts because they don't like getting called on it. People would be a lot less angry if they simply acknowledged that they overpromised what they could deliver instead of constantly pretending that everything is better than ever. Edited July 26, 2022 by Ardrossan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shayddow Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 All I want to hear is ALL the broken FP's are fixed. If I can't get past Malgus on Augst 3rd. I quit! It has been fixed, at least in story mode. I've taken my BH (Tank), SW (Tank),Smuggler (RT spec DPS), & JK (Marauder Spec) thru it. If a 65 year old player can do it, you can too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeannaVoyager Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 will there be 8 developers doing the first boss of new raid on story mode and will eric be playing op healer? You assume they play their own game. The way it's been going lately, I'm not so sure they do. Most of the 7.0 changes imply they don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarova Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 Morning everyone, We will be hosting a 7.1 Livestream on July 28, 1:00 PM CT (6:00 PM UTC) over on our Twitch channel. We'll be going over what's coming in 7.1, and you'll also be hearing from several devs as well. See you soon! Jackie Serious request: can you please do a thread asking for our questions before the livestream starts? Then you can have a list of the most pressing concerns and answers ready once the livestream starts. It saves you all having to skim the mad chat for our questions and means we don't have to type our question repeatedly in the hope it might get seen. My biggest question is whether we will get a separate gear tab. To avoid the inevitable wall of text critique of the game, you might want to request a single question per post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codydmaan Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 (edited) Morning everyone, We will be hosting a 7.1 Livestream on July 28, 1:00 PM CT (6:00 PM UTC) over on our Twitch channel. We'll be going over what's coming in 7.1, and you'll also be hearing from several devs as well. See you soon! Jackie Should we believe anything they say because yall didn't do anything you promised in your last live stream other than a ui fix because the icons glowed too much? Speaking on that you still didn't fix the deconstruction window it's still extreemly faded after decon. But really why should we beleive anything said? Since lately it's been empty promises and staff quitting. We all love the game too much to see it go downhill so quickly Edited July 27, 2022 by codydmaan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esran Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 I've lost hope, and don't expect them to be honest with us. It just isn't in their nature to speak the truth. They tell us what they think we want to hear, and what they wish were true, but based on past statements made by them that have been proven false, I don't trust them. 100% this, they are so like politicians it’s scary, it’ll be waffle after waffle about how great everything is and how great stuff is that is coming. Just be honest and tell us what’s going on, don’t need gory details about what’s happened just give facts about what is coming and what isn’t. Also, I think this live stream will mainly be used for this new dev team to just introduce themselves and tell us what they’ve done in the past even though we read it all on the post when the news of Charles leaving came through. There’s still a teeny tiny spark of positivity left in me though for this live stream and that the devs will give us a new hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balameb Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 I'm actually surprised that people refer to the same team with less people and changed positions for some of the remaining ones as "new". With Ups and Downs (subjectives to my opinions) Charles, i think, was one the best of the Team. And now they just moved some lower ranks that were already working in the hopes people will not notice the team is getting smaller and they are having real problems getting replacements. It is true that one of the biggest problem of that team fortunately already left. But I also seriously doubt that Eric's promotion will bring the much needed change in leadearship, philosophy, and more importantly ethics for a team that has been making bad desitions one after the other for too many years. On people being savage, why not? They have a lot of reasons to be out of hope, be cynical and even angry. Sadly, they will not apologize (properly) because BW is not Square Enix and will not show what their corporate views consider 'weakness' (even if right now their entire production team is worth less than a Junior at SE). I do wish to be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xavyus Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 3 weeks ago i returned to SWTOR, last time i played was end of eternal throne. I did Onslaught and legacy of the sith content in couple of hours. Before i played WoW and FF XIV. Im in shock theres so little new content, still no good group finder, no m+ just like in WoW and still no endgame - just farming one boss over and over to get gear.. i mean ***? If they dont shot anything good this time i probably should move on to games that devs/publishers still care about. I cant understand how cant EA/BW do **** about good mmorpg set in SW lore, its beyond me, such a waste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nee-Elder Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 (edited) r [.twitch.tv/swtor"]Twitch channel[ Jackie, BioWare, or ANYONE: Can you please post the written/typed out 'recap minutes' version of this, so people like me don't have to read random player threads to see info as opposed to someone from BioWare updating THIS actual official BioWare started thread? (which isn't even stickied yet for some odd reason ) Thanks. *EDIT UPDATE: Looks like Jackie & BioWare either read my post or were already planning it: https://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=10041588#edit10041588 Edited July 28, 2022 by Nee-Elder THANKS Jackie or whomever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akdonkey Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Agreed! IMO giving the "new team" an opportunity to make things right and the encouragement needed to move forward is simply the right thing to do. Giving a New team is a great idea. However, they came in with more unwanted UI changes and added more armor levels that are unatainable to me. I have never found a successful operation group I despise the PVP here. I loved the Renown and play how you want. The new DEV team is moving forward with a failed system that they are only adding to not even trying to fix the bugs that exist. I find it painful to log in lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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