Kazuone Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 Hello. As many of you, i'm very disapointed of 7.0. What if next expansions cost you something like 20-30€/$. Would you pay for it if content is massive and real ? I think free expansion (or sub included) is not a good way for future major content. My point is, why others mmo players pay for expansion and have massive content and we don't ? Don't you think that we, players, always want more and more free stuff/content, no more limitation and somehow that's killing games ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Malganus Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 From this dev team? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeannaVoyager Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 Hello. As many of you, i'm very disapointed of 7.0. What if next expansions cost you something like 20-30€/$. Would you pay for it if content is massive and real ? I think free expansion (or sub included) is not a good way for future major content. My point is, why others mmo players pay for expansion and have massive content and we don't ? Don't you think that we, players, always want more and more free stuff/content, no more limitation and somehow that's killing games ? No I wouldn't, not anymore. I've been paying subscription for years for zero new content. Had they not broken the game patch by patch with game breaking bugs and horrible UI changes, completely ruined parts of the games (such as crafing and conquest) I might. But in the current state of the game: absolutely not. They're only getting my sub money because I want to raid with my friends but that's it. I'm not even buying cartel coins anymore. I quit doing that when they decided to pester us with the useless advertisement pop-up on every reset. Subscribers shouldn't have to deal with forced advertisement pop-ups, especially since I have to 1) close it 2) fix my UI because it doesn't stay where I put it. It's nothing but an annoyance nobody asked for and the thought of paying more than the mandatory sub just makes me cringe. Also regarding new story content. I did enjoy it for a long time, but with kotet/kotfe it was dosed in such a small dribbles I lost interest. It stopped being fun running same thing over and over again with different classes and characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedimasterjac Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 If it was roughly the size of ROTHC? Probably. But I doubt paying would make much of a difference in the amount of content we get, so I'd rather not be sucked dry by a game that won't give substantive updates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HypSpec Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 If the developers made an offer in a planned pay for expac release, and committed details as to the length of content and other benefits, then I would likely do it if I saw the value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUXs Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 Hello. As many of you, i'm very disapointed of 7.0. What if next expansions cost you something like 20-30€/$. Would you pay for it if content is massive and real ? I think free expansion (or sub included) is not a good way for future major content. My point is, why others mmo players pay for expansion and have massive content and we don't ? Don't you think that we, players, always want more and more free stuff/content, no more limitation and somehow that's killing games ? I paid for the last one and it still hasn't been released, so hell no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akdonkey Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 From this dev team? No. Agreed, They talk a big game is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrufkaZ Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 Absolutely. I've done in the the past and will do in the future, in quite a few games. I'm always willing to pay for a quality content. I think it's only fair. Would I do it in SWTOR? Not anytime soon. First, the new content would have to convice me to even renew my sub (which ends today, first time in many years). Paying even more than that? There would have to happen a servious revamp and current team is neither willing nor (most likely) capable of accomplishing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illgot Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 (edited) From this dev team? No. when I have to pay for an expansion and a subscription, no. One issue is you are splitting your game population by expansions and asking them to pay subscriptions. Edited June 17, 2022 by illgot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlBuzzard Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 Hello. As many of you, i'm very disapointed of 7.0. What if next expansions cost you something like 20-30€/$. Would you pay for it if content is massive and real ? I think free expansion (or sub included) is not a good way for future major content. My point is, why others mmo players pay for expansion and have massive content and we don't ? Don't you think that we, players, always want more and more free stuff/content, no more limitation and somehow that's killing games ? If it were a genuine XP... yes. By that I mean such as the beginning of KotFE .. or in the case of WoW ... such as BC or WotLK or Cataclysm. That is how I define (or use for examples) a real expansion. Right now, what we are seeing in SWTOR is more like just another "paragraph" in the story... or (at best) a brief chapter of an expanding story ... but definitely NOT an expansion. AND IF (said expansion) were to be released ... with a lot less BUGS ... otherwise what's the point. Without sounding like I'm riding someone's case that hard. Right now, we really do need some sort of positive reinforcement that this game is (at the very least) on the mend. It is unquestionably hurting. Regardless of why (or who is leaving or already left)... the game needs a good "shot in the arm" so to speak. I personally only actively play one on-line game at a time ( I have my own personal reasons and don't expect that too many would follow that reasoning). I would prefer to stay here. I do have two other options at my disposal with previously well established characters (though not currently being used). That decision, however, can possibly change. There is a great deal of potential for this game. With the right support from EA and with the proper motivation IMO this game unquestionably could be one of the best out there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkMatterSlifus Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 It would have to contain massive story content for me which would never happen these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juliushorst Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 For a good expansion - yes. For Legacy of the Sith or something of similar quality - it would be nice if they paid me for playing this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casirabit Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 Before all this mess yes. I did it in SWG but now no way. The devs have lost my trust in doing expansions anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gokkus Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 (edited) From this dev team? No. This. Before 7.0 I would absolutely have, within reason. Now, I am almost ashamed to pay for my sub as it is. I would, however, pay to go back to 6.0. Never would I have imagined they would screw up an 'expansion' this bad. They have taken away so much that I am still thinking of unsubbing at least once a week. But Ive been so loyal to this game. I really thought I would be here till the end... Edited June 18, 2022 by Gokkus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caimic Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 This. Before 7.0 I would absolutely have, within reason. Now, I am almost ashamed to pay for my sub as it is. I would, however, pay to go back to 6.0. Never would I have imagined they would screw up an 'expansion' this bad. They have taken away so much that I am still thinking of unsubbing at least once a week. But Ive been so loyal to this game. I really thought I would be here till the end... Exactly how I feel dude. I would’ve paid for my sub + a new expansion before 7.0, but now things are just so terrible I don’t plan to keep paying them if they aren’t giving me a product worth the money. About 40ish days left on my sub so that’s about how long they have to prove to me they can fix things. I would definitely stay subbed if they went back to 6.3/ 6.x whatever, but that’s almost certainly not happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigfallenstar Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 Exactly how I feel dude. I would’ve paid for my sub + a new expansion before 7.0, but now things are just so terrible I don’t plan to keep paying them if they aren’t giving me a product worth the money. About 40ish days left on my sub so that’s about how long they have to prove to me they can fix things. I would definitely stay subbed if they went back to 6.3/ 6.x whatever, but that’s almost certainly not happening. If they wanted to roll back to 6x or whatever, they would have done it by now. Which brings up another point, everyone knows BW's history and track record, yet are surprised when they do the same thing. Like not listening to the players. Why are you surprised by this? Plus, one more thing, if you're no longer entertained or the game feels like it's going in the direction you don't like, why are you still here? Why are you playing a game you vehemently hate and know the people behind it don't care about you and know they won't admit when they are wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluehufsa Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 Hi. Yes i would pay if it : - would have more than 30 minutes of new content - the story will have something for everyone in it ( for example, as a BH, i couldn't care less about Darth M, padawan S.K. and some Force artifact..) - there will be a connection to our past and NPCs we have met before and are nowhere listed as dead ( Overseer Loun, Juda, Padawan Fia, Master Khalisa Jenso and so on) - no more Emperor V, Darth R and other people who refuse to stay dead! - a better gearing system or a return to 6.0 gearing system Yes, yes, i know, i'm asking for way too much, but it is not impossible, is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlBuzzard Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 Hi. Yes i would pay if it : - would have more than 30 minutes of new content - the story will have something for everyone in it ( for example, as a BH, i couldn't care less about Darth M, padawan S.K. and some Force artifact..) - there will be a connection to our past and NPCs we have met before and are nowhere listed as dead ( Overseer Loun, Juda, Padawan Fia, Master Khalisa Jenso and so on) - no more Emperor V, Darth R and other people who refuse to stay dead! - a better gearing system or a return to 6.0 gearing system Yes, yes, i know, i'm asking for way too much, but it is not impossible, is it? Respectfully asking for more interactive time (some of which could be repeatable) with companions. ... truthfully I think there is a grocery list of favorite items many of us would like to see. BUT ... IMO having fun with companions use to be one of the more interesting parts of SWTOR that has unquestionably been shoved aside! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afwhoefuwov Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 If it means my money will be used to develop a FULL, DECENT expansion and not a patch? 200%. If it means I get dripping content? Absolutely not. Hell, I would even pay 4 times the monthly sub if it means I have a lot of contents and regular updates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSilverRoar Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 If it actually increases quality of content while not diminishing the player base of willing participants, then I'd gladly fork out the $$$ - & it'd better have a purchasable there-in-the-moment special edition that includes quality bonus items like the Legacy of the Sith expansion did, which was way better than the Shadows of Revan bonus items. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master_Morak Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 From this dev team? No. My words - before 7.0 I where willing to pay 40 to 50 bucks for an expansion like in other games (WoW, TESO, etc.) But now with these garbage delivered for a 10 year celebration - no cent. And please don't call them a dev Team, this is an insult to all real and engaged development and designer teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordCamTheGreat Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 If paying for an expansion got me something that lasts as long as a ff14 expansion sure. At least 2 flashpoints, 1-2 new operations, 2 planets, 10+ hours of story content, level increase, crafting increase etc. If paying for an expansion means a 1-2 hour major story update which has no conclusion, no ops, annoying new characters who immediately die, a broken flashpoint and a general downgrade to the game such as 7.0 - then no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caimic Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 If they wanted to roll back to 6x or whatever, they would have done it by now. Correct. As I said in my initial post there’s little to no chance they revert. Which brings up another point, everyone knows BW's history and track record, yet are surprised when they do the same thing. Like not listening to the players. Why are you surprised by this? I don’t know where I indicated surprise?? Plus, one more thing, if you're no longer entertained or the game feels like it's going in the direction you don't like, why are you still here? I don’t think you read my post at all. I have 40 sub days left and that’s basically how long they have to improve the game at all before I bail for good. I can dumb it down for you this way: if I bought a spa membership where they charge you for every month and cancelled while still having half a month left, I don’t get the previous days refunded I still have that whole rest of the month that I paid for. Of course I am going to use it while I still have it and get a modicum of my money’s worth. But I’m not even on that much anyways anymore, it’s mainly me on the forums seeing if anything improves. Unfortunately nothing seems to be improving. Why are you playing a game you vehemently hate and know the people behind it don't care about you and know they won't admit when they are wrong? I don’t know where I said I was actively playing. I pretty much only get on once every week for ten minutes to check and see if things are fixed and or to complain about how bad 7.0 is and then log off. Also I don’t know where I said or showed that I “vehemently” hate the game?? I love SWTOR it WAS my favorite game before they destroyed it with 7.0. THATS why I’m here. Your post was pretty useless and unwarranted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aghasett Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 Would you pay for it if content is massive and real ? Only in Tether (₮) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarova Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 (edited) Hello. As many of you, i'm very disapointed of 7.0. What if next expansions cost you something like 20-30€/$. Would you pay for it if content is massive and real ? I think free expansion (or sub included) is not a good way for future major content. My point is, why others mmo players pay for expansion and have massive content and we don't ? Don't you think that we, players, always want more and more free stuff/content, no more limitation and somehow that's killing games ? Based on the dire story content/direction after class stories? NOPE. I play/pay primarily for story and it's been disappointing. I don't trust that they will ever match the superb-ness of class stories again. The format they used for KotFE should have been used as an opportunity to give our classes an awesome story, but it just lumped everyone, regardless of class into Emperor killers. And I don't believe they could give us an expansion that worked based on the forum of bugs from 7.0 which months later are still unfixed. I'd prefer to see an entirely new online star wars game with a good team of developers who give us new story and great characters. Edited June 21, 2022 by Sarova Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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