The weird people you meet in Group Finder.

[Halinalle]

I don't memorize routes or fights quickly. My rotations aren't perfect and my reaction times are, at best, average.

 

Shortcuts can be a bit difficult to remember even if you have memorized them but you haven't done that FP recently.

Who even cares about correct rotations? I mean outside of timed fights. For example I use a bit weird rotation on my Infiltration Shadow: instead of using optimal rotation my rotation is Clairvoyant Strike heavy and based on exploiting Shadow's Respite. Reaction times... We are humans after all.

[thewitchdoctor]

(If you know of such a guild on Pot5 let me know!)

 

Shame you aren't on The Shadowlands. Good luck. The stories in the Ops (and even FPs) are interesting. They are mostly the story driving the game right now. At least since Eternal Conflict with 'Kephess, He Who Just Won't Die.'

[Cox_The_Beast]

Ok, got another one last night.

I was playing my sorc dps, lightning spec. I usually just PvP on that char, but in the last week I figured I could give Oricon a try and got to the point where you need DF to proceed. Well, last night someone was asking for 3 dps for DF on fleet, so I thought, hey, why not. I whispered and got to Oricon right away, since I was on fleet... Well, as we find out 5 of the team are 1st timers, but np, they are all in Oricon gear so geared enough. The only one I can't inspect is a DPS assassin that takes ages to get to us... Until we see he entered KP instead of DF.

Well, we tell him to get to Oricon instead, and without a word - only mute guy in the geam, luckily - he flies there with his ship. Then he walks to us, not even running or using his personal speeder... And he stops in front of the entrance to the heroic area right in the middle of the map. Well, np, I solo that H2 usually, so I volunteer to escort the guy to our place thinking he may have been afraid because he couldn't. As soon as I say so in chat and move, the guy drops group and returns to fleet, not answering to anyone asking him what happened.

Ok, we ask in general for another DPS and we get a sniper. Gear not great until he slaps on his appropriate gear, but in the end we all lol a bit together about our worries.

Then we enter. We have the offtank die right away because one of Nefra's little brothers - the mini versions of Nefra with pushback right at start - pushes her in the lava but I throw an in-battle rez at her right away and offheal her, the others focused on the rest of the team, and we down them fast. I get some thanks, and from that moment on things go ok, not perfect, since I have to offheal from time to time to keep ppl alive, but ok. Well, we get to Nefra, and the tank explains tactics like a pro. I just add to ignore the droid and let me deal with it, since that's how I usually have the team take care of it when I tank it... And, off we go, I stlll have to offheal to keep ppl alive, but nvm, I'm used to play two roles in PUGs... When the first droid comes, I Shock it and run away from the team, and when he charges his AOE I Force Speed out of it with ease. Then DPS continues on the boss. Second droid, the sniper agroes it, and I have to pull the guy away from the AOE, but ok, no problem. He even thanks me during the fight.

Nefra goes down with me managing the droids like I did before, and we proceed. There's a lot of confusion during the maze before Draxus, but I get confused myself there, so no big deal. We explain tactics and off we go. During the fight, I mostly tank the Subteroths on the L side, while the tank stays on Draxus the whole time and the offtank manages the other side. I do my best, and manage, much to my surprise - 156 gear, so the barely minimum. Then, the Dispatchers. They go down so fast I am surprised, on the other side... but I'm alone at L... And noone comes to help, so I have to down the 3 of them solo. This is where I start getting worried. Next wave, Corruptors, 1 per side. And I'm still alone! That means, that as soon as I use my interrupt on the Mass Affliction cast, at the last second, to maximize my DPS, I can't interrupt anymore. I call for an Interrupt, and the tanks come to help, but we still get Mass Affliction and lose a healer and a DPS. I cleanse myself and the tanks, then both tanks die and I rez the main one, then offheal it. But in the mean time we lost 2 more DPS, so I'm the last one... And the next wave comes, wiping us.

Ok, I say in chat that's no big deal, Draxus is complicated by itself, so I'm not mad at all. But as we decide to try again a DPS says he has to go because next day he has to work - 2 in the morning and we started almost 2 hours earlier, but nvm. Np, I understand, I know the feeling... So I wish him GN. Then the one that got the team together simply drops and leaves, and he was a healer too... No answer to whispers nor in general when we asked him why. Anyway, we start looking for replacements, but noone is willing, since we downed Nefra... So we called it a night. I got whispers afterwards thanking me for my efforts at keeping them alive from both tanks and the other healer, so I feel a little better, but still, leaving like that is just... I don't even know how to call it.

Wipes are something everyone should be ready for, especially in endgame content. In fact, I am always ready for a wipe...

Edited May 11, 2014 by Cox_The_Beast

[Lord_of_Mu]

Ok, got another one last night.

 

I was playing my sorc dps, lightning spec. I usually just PvP on that char, but in the last week I figured I could give Oricon a try and got to the point where you need DF to proceed.

 

Well, last night someone was asking for 3 dps for DF on fleet, so I thought, hey, why not. I whispered and got to Oricon right away, since I was on fleet... Well, as we find out 5 of the team are 1st timers, but np, they are all in Oricon gear so geared enough.

 

The only one I can't inspect is a DPS assassin that takes ages to get to us... Until we see he entered KP instead of DF.

 

Well, we tell him to get to Oricon instead, and without a word - only mute guy in the geam, luckily - he flies there with his ship. Then he walks to us, not even running or using his personal speeder... And he stops in front of the entrance to the heroic area right in the middle of the map.

 

Well, np, I solo that H2 usually, so I volunteer to escort the guy to our place thinking he may have been afraid because he couldn't. As soon as I say so in chat and move, the guy drops group and returns to fleet, not answering to anyone asking him what happened.

 

Ok, we ask in general for another DPS and we get a sniper. Gear not great until he slaps on his appropriate gear, but in the end we all lol a bit together about our worries.

 

Then we enter. We have the offtank die right away because one of Nefra's little brothers - the mini versions of Nefra with pushback right at start - pushes her in the lava but I throw an in-battle rez at her right away and offheal her, the others focused on the rest of the team, and we down them fast. I get some thanks, and from that moment on things go ok, not perfect, since I have to offheal from time to time to keep ppl alive, but ok.

 

Well, we get to Nefra, and the tank explains tactics like a pro. I just add to ignore the droid and let me deal with it, since that's how I usually have the team take care of it when I tank it... And, off we go, I stlll have to offheal to keep ppl alive, but nvm, I'm used to play two roles in PUGs... When the first droid comes, I Shock it and run away from the team, and when he charges his AOE I Force Speed out of it with ease.

 

Then DPS continues on the boss. Second droid, the sniper agroes it, and I have to pull the guy away from the AOE, but ok, no problem. He even thanks me during the fight.

 

Nefra goes down with me managing the droids like I did before, and we proceed. There's a lot of confusion during the maze before Draxus, but I get confused myself there, so no big deal. We explain tactics and off we go.

 

During the fight, I mostly tank the Subteroths on the L side, while the tank stays on Draxus the whole time and the offtank manages the other side. I do my best, and manage, much to my surprise - 156 gear, so the barely minimum.

 

Then, the Dispatchers. They go down so fast I am surprised, on the other side... but I'm alone at L... And noone comes to help, so I have to down the 3 of them solo. This is where I start getting worried. Next wave, Corruptors, 1 per side. And I'm still alone! That means, that as soon as I use my interrupt on the Mass Affliction cast, at the last second, to maximize my DPS, I can't interrupt anymore.

 

I call for an Interrupt, and the tanks come to help, but we still get Mass Affliction and lose a healer and a DPS. I cleanse myself and the tanks, then both tanks die and I rez the main one, then offheal it. But in the mean time we lost 2 more DPS, so I'm the last one... And the next wave comes, wiping us.

 

Ok, I say in chat that's no big deal, Draxus is complicated by itself, so I'm not mad at all. But as we decide to try again a DPS says he has to go because next day he has to work - 2 in the morning and we started almost 2 hours earlier, but nvm. Np, I understand, I know the feeling... So I wish him GN.

 

Then the one that got the team together simply drops and leaves, and he was a healer too... No answer to whispers nor in general when we asked him why. Anyway, we start looking for replacements, but noone is willing, since we downed Nefra... So we called it a night.

 

I got whispers afterwards thanking me for my efforts at keeping them alive from both tanks and the other healer, so I feel a little better, but still, leaving like that is just... I don't even know how to call it.

 

Wipes are something everyone should be ready for, especially in endgame content. In fact, I am always ready for a wipe...

 

Spaced for your viewing pleasure.

Edited May 11, 2014 by Lord_of_Mu

[Halinalle]

I decided to start a new Shadow and level him as tank instead of dps like I did with my previous Shadow. After doing dome stuff on fleet I queue for Esseles and it takes forever. Finally we get a group. We progress nicely without any problems. We finally get to final boss and someone decided to inform me about my "tanking style".

 

"Tank you need to be much faster. You have to be on mobs before everyone else."

(we had Sentinel who liked to leap to next group of mobs after previous group was cleared)

Ok, now could someone please explain how I would do that? At level 11, without Force Speed. There's no way I can be faster than someone who has Force Leap.

 

Not annoying, not funny but still "What? I don't even..." moment.

[Ryuku-sama]

I decided to start a new Shadow and level him as tank instead of dps like I did with my previous Shadow. After doing dome stuff on fleet I queue for Esseles and it takes forever. Finally we get a group. We progress nicely without any problems. We finally get to final boss and someone decided to inform me about my "tanking style".

 

"Tank you need to be much faster. You have to be on mobs before everyone else."

(we had Sentinel who liked to leap to next group of mobs after previous group was cleared)

Ok, now could someone please explain how I would do that? At level 11, without Force Speed. There's no way I can be faster than someone who has Force Leap.

 

Not annoying, not funny but still "What? I don't even..." moment.

 

 

LMAO... I'd answered them something along "If the *********** ****tard tanktinel without any survivability weren't a zerg boy, I could be on mob first." Anyway there is so many idiot out there....

Edited May 11, 2014 by Ryuku-sama

[Halinalle]

LMAO... I'd answered them something along "If the *********** ****tard tanktinel without any survivability weren't a zerg boy, I could be on mob first." Anyway there is so many idiot out there....

 

It was Esseles after all. No big deal. Tanks aren't really tanks before they get tanking stance, Guard at level 14 and taunt at level 16.

At least nobody complained about my AoE threat which is non-existent before I get Combat Technique (Force Breach), Whirling Blow at 26 and Mass Mind Control at 30.

[DawnAskham]

It was Esseles after all. No big deal. Tanks aren't really tanks before they get tanking stance, Guard at level 14 and taunt at level 16.

At least nobody complained about my AoE threat which is non-existent before I get Combat Technique (Force Breach), Whirling Blow at 26 and Mass Mind Control at 30.

 

Some of the funniest comments come when running Esseles or BT.

 

I find it especially hilarious when people complain about tanks or healers, as though someone at level 10 has all the skills and talents they would have at end-game, and as the content actually needs anything more than a couple of non-brain dead players hitting stuff to succeed.

[Khevar]

I was the catalyst for a group finder story yesterday.

 

A guildy and I queued for tacticals. Czerka Core Meltdown popped, we said our hellos, and carried on. Everyone knew what they were doing, and we pretty much breezed through everything until we got to the Duneclaw.

 

Now this next part was totally, 100%, my fault.

 

Since I had brought my NM progression dps, I held aggro the whole fight. Since I was in vent with my guildy, we were talking and I wasn't paying attention to in-game chat. And since I was being an idiot, I forgot about moving the Duneclaw to the generator. (I swear, I'm not normally this stupid).

 

I glance at the chat window and see 'Over here. HERE. OVER HERE *****' and have my D'oh moment. Shame and mortification wash over me, as I promptly remember how to play the game and start positioning the boss. We finish the fight without futher incident.

 

I apologize profusely and pass on all loot (including the rep tokens that I could use) by way of amends.

 

Unfortunately, this manages to set off the 3rd player in our group (the one shouting earlier). The 4th player acknowledges my apology and says it's all okay. The 3rd and 4th player start getting into an argument. By the time we get to The Vigilant, these two are viciously going at in in chat while the fight is happening. O.o

 

By the end of flashpoint, player 3 had put (at the very least) myself and player 4 on ignore.

 

:/

Edited May 11, 2014 by Khevar

[Ryuku-sama]

Some of the funniest comments come when running Esseles or BT.

 

I find it especially hilarious when people complain about tanks or healers, as though someone at level 10 has all the skills and talents they would have at end-game, and as the content actually needs anything more than a couple of non-brain dead players hitting stuff to succeed.

 

Yep I know.... I just tend to respond overly aggressive when someone doesn't know what they are saying and try to teach others...

[grrrly]

Good times on the weekend doing most of the flashpoint and operations weeklies on 2 toons. I will have to mention first that there were some great groups and really smooth runs. But then there was.....

 

Assault on Tython, where the guardian dps in the group appeared to be going for some kind of kill count record by running around the instance taking everything out. If a mob was over in the corner, almost of out sight and harmlessly minding its own business, he was taking them down! Slow run.

 

Czerka Core Meltdown, where the vanguard dps in the group lost it because people were following mechanics by moving the bosses around. He said they had to be kept still, because otherwise he couldn't use his abilities "because they are all channeled".

 

A supposed full run of SM SnV 16 man that filled up quickly but was still lacking 2 tanks so someone brought in their friends. Main tank was in full Dread Forged gear and was holding threat well on Dash'roode so it looked like it would be a smooth and fast run. But by the time we finished Titan 6 it became apparent from their play style and behaviour that the tanks had just joined the run to troll the group. We get to the cave with womp rats and while everyone is fighting the first mob, one of the tanks goes to the end of the cave and brings back all of the other mobs to the group. Now, that's a lot of elites and it wipes us. We start again, but before everyone has managed to get back into the instance, and before those that were rezzed are able to regen health, he does it again. In we go to kill Thrasher, and he decides to surprise us all by bringing in the elite mobs from the sarlacc pit. I don't know what he and his friend were doing during Thrasher, much "gangsta talk", very little tanking, so everyone quit the group when the fight was finished. Fleet chat was heated for a little while after that run.

 

HM Mandalorian Raiders on my heals, I get a 29k hp tank wearing mainly DPS gear; a few level 50 purples mixed with some greens and blues, and low level implants and earpiece. He has an undergeared DPS mate with him, the other DPS is appropriately geared for the content though. I know this isn't going to be an easy run, and sure enough, I'm tanking pretty much the whole thing. Threat drop every cooldown but I'm dying trying to keep both him and myself up. A really difficult run with some wipes and I'm glad when it's over.

 

Anyway, that wasn't weird but what happened next is. I'm on fleet a bit later looking for ops and I see someone advertise a full run of 16 man DF SM. I put my hand up and join the group, and see the tank from Mandalorian Raiders is the group leader, and he has his undergeared mate with him. Of course the logical thing to do would be to run a mile, but I'm bored and want to see what happens. Various people join the group and ask who the tanks are, and he advises that its him and another mate - who has 25k health. Obviously this is met with some concern but he assures the group its not an issue if the healers are good!

 

Off to DF we go, and the 25k hp tank asks where he has to go. He is told to go to Oricon, but has never heard of it and doesn't know how to get there. Some people leave, and fortunately a decision is made to bring in another tank to replace the one who can't overcome the insurmountable task of traveling to Oricon. This guy knows his stuff, and the 29k hp tank is generous enough to let him main tank the ops. I see that the undergeared tank has 0% ops achievements, so ask in ops chat if everyone has done the op before, and the expected silence is returned. We zone in and realise that there are only 3 healers in the group, but the 29k tank says this is OK, we don't need 4. Speak for yourself! By now I'm really regretting that I let my curiosity get the better of me. Nefra is fine, but Draxus is a wipe, way too much damage for the 3 of us to heal through, when you combine the off tank not knowing what to do with the usual pug failures to interrupt and self cleanse. Surprisingly, we end up managing to get the weekly done but its apparent after one wipe we won't being clearing Brontes so that's the end of that.

[ValeGreiger]

See? This is why I love healing. I can actually select who lives and who dies. Best part is, if I quit, I can queue up in virtually less than a minute, in contrast to a dps who has to wait 10mins.

 

Now onto my story...

 

 

It was during my early days of op healing and I was doing mando raiders. It was with two maras and one sin. It was probably the only disastrous fp I've ever done in the game. Tank would not hold aggro at all. Maras wouldn't pick off aggro off me either, forcing me to use cloaking screen almost every time I could. We managed to survive up until the pub boss team.

 

Suffice to say it was just one wipe after another. Now one of the maras told me to sleep one of the bosses. Now remember, all of them are immune to basically all CC moves. This guy swears he was able to do so with his own op, which led me to believe he was probably talking about another fp boss. Anyways, long story short, everyone quits cause they're frustrated except me. A minute after they quit, I essentially get a whole new party with a PT, a dps OP and a merc. Not only the fight was cake-slice but we go through the rest of the fp like hot knife on butter.

 

I think that fp was a defining moment for me cause it was my first time taking up healing and it just showed how sometimes the problem isn't you, its really other people.

[sanctified]

See? This is why I love healing. I can actually select who lives and who dies. Best part is, if I quit, I can queue up in virtually less than a minute, in contrast to a dps who has to wait 10mins.

 

 

Only a ten minute wait for dps?! Hold on, I'm rerolling my dps alts on your server!

[grrrly]

I think that fp was a defining moment for me cause it was my first time taking up healing and it just showed how sometimes the problem isn't you, its really other people.

 

Most definitely. I've healed flash points that were so bad, I've wondered if I'm doing something really wrong for the group to be wiping. The group will say something about not getting enough heals, and I wonder if I really do suck. But then I'll go into another flash point with a good tank, and get through the whole thing without needing to do a lot more than keep my probes up and keep hots on the tank. I love good tanks

[herszi]

I had a funny run in KDY lvl 15-54. Me as a healer, two dps and a tank. I started with "hello, what a proper group we have". This was met with complete silence. Not even one greeting in return.

As we proceed to first mobs it seems that tank is afk. One of dps votekicked him but tank appeared. So finally we were all together. Then, I got a whisper from dps to votekick tank cuz he's such a noob. I tried to calm down boys, it was quite late and, come on, we can do this without so much drama. Then tank votekicked me. I was like, huh, what? Of course I got no answer to that. The time for votekick passed and there was info about that in chat. Tank asks: what? why did you want to kick healer? Someone answered, well, you did. Then there were some talks about how we should kick tank, he was noob, we'll requeue. I said no, as it is a simple run, no need to complicate it. Surprisingly, it went quite smoothly, though I believe that there were pissing contest via /w between others as dps ended with 'tank noob noob'.

Well, it was fun though. Though I was probably the one who didn't want to kick every other member of the group

[slafko]

I love pugging flashpoints on impside. There's always so much drama and crazy people, almost every GF pop guarantees a good story. Here's the latest one:

 

Cademimu HM. I'm on my healer sorc. GF pops, me and two deeps zone in. Tank's health is dropping and it's obivious he's doing dailies or whatever. I say "hi" and follow it up with "i'd like to do the bonus too". No replies. Not even a "hello". Two minutes later, the tank states he'll be joining as soon as he hands in the quest rewards. Thinking I'll have their attention now, I repeat my desire to do bonus and ask if everyone's okay with it. Tank zones in a few minutes later and by this time 10 minute have passed and we're still at the starting platform. I get guard tank starts moving. I ask for bonus a third time.

 

No replies.

 

We start clearing and, seeing as I'm guarded, I pull a group of mobs. They go down fast. I pull another group the tank ignored. They too go down fast but this time tank says "*** U DOIN". I say I'm pulling mobs so that we have enough kills to activate the bonus.

 

Tank: We're not doing bonus.

DPS1: I don't do bonus.

DPS2: LOL BONUS

 

Seeing as how they've wasted 15 minutes of my time and tried to hoax me into doing a run without a bonus by ignoring my questions, I politely ask to be vote kicked. One DPS fires it up, but the other two are deliberatly ignoring the votekick in hopes in blackmailing me to come on a run wihout bonus. Abuse starts when the kick fails and I'm still not moving from my position. Twenty+ minutes after the initial GF pop and loads of abuse later, they finally realise I can't be blackmailed and hoaxed so they votekick me. Three people on ignore, next GF pops - Cademimu with bonus. gg

[Irongut]

I had a funny run in KDY lvl 15-54. Me as a healer, two dps and a tank. I started with "hello, what a proper group we have".

 

Beware the perfect trinity in tactical FPs, they seem to be a magnet for the kind of people who make stories for this thread.

 

Over the weekend I had a Tython run with a perfect trinity group. I was the healer and our tank had less than 25k hp. It also became obivous he hadn't been there before even though he never asked about boss mechanics. He was very squishy, despite my best efforts he died to trash more than once and during boss fights one of the dps did more tanking than he did. We got through it eventually but it was quite a chore.

[Lord_Submarine]

So something like a month ago I returned to swtor from a break and saw these new tactical flashpoints. I was reading about them something before and thought: Oh, cool, now I will not need to wait for ages on my dps to get one.

 

So I took my sage dps, which was under level 20 I think and click KDY. Immediately, I get a group and zone in. We have a tank guardian, two other unknown dps and no healer.

The tank immediately says: "Sage you are the only one with healing abilities, you will heal."

I thought that the tactical flashpoints are not class-specific, but as I am the noob there, I just assume they know what they are doing and go with it.

 

So the group starts zerging through the trash and I dps, as I am dps, and everything goes well. But no, no one stops between the fights, even if the tank is on pretty low health all the time (). So I start healing and all my force goes through the window. They still do not stop, so I have only limited time to get it back. We finally make it to one of the minibosses. I cannot regain my force and the tank jumps in. They did not pause before it and everything goes so fast that I have basically no idea what is happening.

So these minibosses... I played a lot my vanguard dps recently and we usually had no tank, so I was tanking the boss most of the times. So I know now that if the group is really good, we kill him without any heal needed. If the group is normal, someone needs to heal me a bit (I even had this one amazing group once, where we were 4 dps and I was tanking the boss for the whole time. They killed him exactly 3 secs after I died. All of them were at 100 % HP and none of them even considered off-healing me a bit...).

 

So here we go, I am on my dps sage with like 50 % force and the tank jumps in. He immediately starts screaming: "HEAL FFS". So I start healing, but he goes down so fast that I cannot do anything else than that. I have no force after a short time, so til the end I only spam noble sacrifice and heal. And wow, did the fight take ages! At the end, I am at 20 % of my health and the tank at 40 %.

 

Finally, we make it to the last boss. It is the big robot who calls in adds that need to be killed. Before I can even ask about the fight (I do not even know what the consoles are for), the tank jumps in. I start healing, dps's dps. Then the ads come and no one is killing them. I wonder about the strategy and try to start killing them. It is surprisingly easy and I do not need to heal so much after they are dead. But as I am the only one killing them and I try to heal in between as well, everything goes south and we wipe.

 

Then the tank quits, without saying anything.

 

We get a new member fast, another tank guardian. He comes in, jumps in and starts fighting. I understood the consoles a bit now and take down the adds now immediately when they come. Still, the fight takes bloody ages, even if the two dps focus only on the boss and very rarely fight the adds.

 

The tank asks: "Guys are you doing any dps at all??"

Well now I know what the problem might be... When the other dps's try to kill the adds (again, not really often), they take pretty long to do that, while I was really suprised how fast I can kill them.

 

We eventually kill the boss. Still thinking that dps with healing abilities need to heal through the whole fp even on the trash, based on my terrible experience I stay away from KDY for a while.

 

After that, I started getting normal groups and found out how easy the fp really is. Before that I just thought I was the weak part of the group, I but now I know a bit better.

 

Sorry about my stories being so long, I somehow suck in writing things shortly

[Maqeurious]

I've always wanted to add something to this thread, but have never had cause to. Until last night.

 

After waiting hours for gf to pop, I finally got into cademimu. We had a sent (me) sage(dps) Scoundrel(heals) and vangard. Anyway, we start off and the tank is walking back and forth behind the group for a few good moments before laying down mortar volley and starting us off. I thought this was a weird opener for a tank, but I've never played a vangard before so I have no idea about the skills/rotations etc they should be using. We barely survived, but we did and moved on. As we went along I noticed the tank hanging back a lot and the sage began starting the fights, then the tank would come in and volley everything.

 

This went on for a while, and the scoundrel put into chat for the sage to stop pulling, to which the response was...'I have no patience for dawdlers..' or some such thing. Fight after fight, the tank hung back, the sage pulled, cc's were broken and at one time we'd managed to agro 2 elites and a whole bunch of silvers/trash into a big 'ole mess. The tank died, the sage died and the poor scoundrel was beefing me with every heal he could get out so I wouldn't die, which I did in the end anyway. On my end, I was starting to get very frustrated. I checked the tanks gear, and he was fully kitted with dps stuff, but then I remembered you don't really get tanky gear at that level so let that slide. I checked his cylinder, but then I also remembered I didn't no which one he should have. It was orange anyway.

 

By this time, the scoundrel had whispered me and started in with the hushed huranging of the other two. Now, this got me. I've been on that end before, not in whispers, but in the chat window with people busting my *** for not doing what I should be doing good enough for them. It made me feel like crap, and to this day I have never healed again. Finally I thought enough was enough, and finally asked the tank if he had ever done this particular flash point before. His answer? No, he's never tanked before, never done not just this, but any fp before. He only queued to see what they were all about. Oddly, I felt all my frustration leave me. The scoundrel and I spent the rest of the fp letting him know how the fp played out, strats for bosses etc. The tank on the other hand continually apologized for his newbiness, which made me feel even worse for getting mad in the first place.

 

Although it could have been easily avoided if he'd just said in the beginning that he was new, it worked out ok in the end. I was new once, I've been berated for being useless (at healing anyway) which led me to never pick that spec again. All I ask is that if you're a healer or a tank and you're doing fps for the very first time, let it be known. It could save a whole lot of frustration for you... and for me too

 

On the flip side, I did my very first Korriban Incursion after humming and haaing, and when I said I'd never done it before, one of our members said "...sigh...' and left. Those guys are definite 'see you next tuesdays'.

[Halinalle]

I checked his cylinder, but then I also remembered I didn't no which one he should have. It was orange anyway.

 

He used:

http://www.torhead.com/ability/46tSYGY/plasma-cell

 

He should've used:

http://www.torhead.com/ability/6pofcbM/ion-cell

 

On the flip side, I did my very first Korriban Incursion after humming and haaing, and when I said I'd never done it before, one of our members said "...sigh...' and left. Those guys are definite 'see you next tuesdays'.

 

If I say that I'm new or I haven't done that content for two years all I get is "Don't worry about it. It's easy."

Edited May 12, 2014 by Halinalle

[grrrly]

If I say that I'm new or I haven't done that content for two years all I get is "Don't worry about it. It's easy."

 

I see that a bit in pug runs for 16 man story mode ops. The new person ends up dying quickly to mechanics they haven't been told about, and spends most of the fights waiting for someone to revive them, and that's not going to happen till the boss is dead because they're essentially considered to be dead weight and not worth wasting a combat rez on. There's always a lot of time pressure in pug ops, and unless you're a guildy it's not likely that many people will want to spend time explaining stuff to you, especially when the content can be undermanned easily. If I'm in a pug and I see this is happening, I'll whisper the person to let them know the major things to look out for.

 

In flashpoints, I don't see that there is an excuse for not explaining if the person has been considerate enough to admit their lack of experience. Most fights can be summed up in a couple of sentences, and the group is so small that everyone will be disadvantaged if they don't offer this information.

[Maqeurious]

 

In flashpoints, I don't see that there is an excuse for not explaining if the person has been considerate enough to admit their lack of experience. Most fights can be summed up in a couple of sentences, and the group is so small that everyone will be disadvantaged if they don't offer this information.

 

I believe this to be true too. I just did Maelstrom Prison for the first time about 10 minutes ago, and the others were great. I'm not asking for a magnum opus of an explanation, just a few words. Hide behind these when he does his laser or stay to the sides so you don't get sniped.

 

But I'm sure there are a ton of people out there that don't dare mention their new-ness to a fp, for fear of being kicked or having the 2 main ones (tank and/or healer) leave. It's easy for them to requeue, but alas the poor dps, lol.

Edited May 12, 2014 by Maqeurious

[Halinalle]

But I'm sure there are a ton of people out there that don't dare mention their new-ness to a fp, for fear of being kicked or having the 2 main ones (tank and/or healer) leave. It's easy for them to requeue, but alas the poor dps, lol.

 

I usually mention it as soon as I get in. It's very "normal" for them not to tell mechanics in boss fights so it's basically learning it from start again (read: getting hit a lot)

 

Just like in Core Meltdown SM quite long ago:

We wipe in Duneclaw fight and one of pugs types "So, you guys don't have any clue?" and I replied with something like this "This is my second time here. First time I was locked out from this fight" (my dps Sorc's rotation was basically: bubble, healing, healing and more healing, refresh bubble when needed, more healing and used Consumption if I needed force). Result: everyone else quits one by one.

 

There's one thing I hate more than people breaking CCs: it's me breaking CCs.

Most difficult pull in HS + CC'd elite + Combat Technique + Force Breach =

Edited May 12, 2014 by Halinalle

[Ryuku-sama]

There's one thing I hate more than people breaking CCs: it's me breaking CCs.

 

I can so relate....

 

In my story

 

Yesterday, Mealstrom prison on my sent lvl 36 (really undergeared)... We get a lvl 43 Scound healer (great), a gunnery mando (great DPS) and a lvl 39 Guardian tank (good tank despite a lil problem).. I load in and ntotice guard on the healer... I'm not in hurry so i chose to finally ask why every fricking lowbie tank think guarding healer is a good strat.... He answers heals generate more aggro than anything but taunt... /facewall This argument between me and him will occur many times during the fp but I think I kept it to a relatively educated debate... not an ego fight.

The tank was really good... the mando took aggro only 2 times and I stole it 3 times. I didn't remember about one boss and his melee AoE (which should be interruptable despite my interrupt not working). We still manage to do it easily. Our mando leave before the Bonus boss and we get a Watchman sent. Kilran goes down easily. All in alll a great run with one weirdness... Tank who thinks heal generate big threat.... /facepalm

Edited May 12, 2014 by Ryuku-sama

[BobFredJohn]

On the flip side, I did my very first Korriban Incursion after humming and haaing, and when I said I'd never done it before, one of our members said "...sigh...' and left. Those guys are definite 'see you next tuesdays'

 

I would suggest the method i use when running FP for the first time. I make sure im DPS spec, then say at the start "this is my first run, ill just follow your lead." I would say the problem with saying "i havent done this before" shows little willingness to take a back seat, if you state your just going to tag along on DPS role people are alot more forgiving.

 

Having said that, my own personal rant

 

Tactical FP tython: 2 assassins, 1 op (dps spec) and me sniper. My first run, i pointed it out, said i was new and they were accepting. However as soon as we started they all switched stealth and ran between the objecives. I pointed out I dont have stealth and asked how to get through without pulling. The op just said "follow me" which i did, though he was in stealth and so i pulled pretty much everything. All 3 group members got pissed off with me and started flaming "use stealth u Fing noob." It felt abit strange having lvl 55 players calling me noob for not stealthing my sniper, but i tried to explain. Next thing I know im vote kicked for "pulling unnecessary enemies" (basically kicked for not using stealth on my sniper).

 

IMO this is typical high lvl noobs, not learning the classes and not allowing people to tell them their opinions about my class abilities is wrong.