NRieh Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 (edited) In last Q&A session there was one thing that seemed strange to me. I'd love to have some clarifications about this matter. LthalSavy: Will there be any way to implement a quick travel to your ship? Georg Zoeller: Not in the short term, but it's something we've been discussing on and off. Currently, given how easily available fleet travel passes are on the Security Vendor, we don't think adding this is necessary. Security vendor is avalible to those who use authentificator system. Authentificator system is avalible to those who use Idevices or androids(for free afaik). It also exists as small physical thing (for price afaik) which seems not to be avalible to all the countries, that may OFICIALLY buy and use this game. It is not mentioned among goods for my region, neither on the site (swtor.com), nor in origin store SWTOR page - client and timecards are all they offer. So, following the simple logic - unless I buy myself an I-device\android device, I'll NEVER get an access to important in-game feature (Fleet Pass). Though I pay same subscribtion. And we are talking not about some rare mounts or pets or holodancers or special outfits. We are talking about NEEDED in-game feature here. Edited February 25, 2012 by NRieh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amclu Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Everyone gets a Fleet Pass with an 18 hr cd. I believe the Security Key vendors have one with a shorter CD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NRieh Posted February 25, 2012 Author Share Posted February 25, 2012 Everyone gets a Fleet Pass with an 18 hr cd. I believe the Security Key vendors have one with a shorter CD. Oh yes it's shorter, indeed. It's 60 mins afaik. They can do whatever they like and move to FP or GTN as they need it. I can move to fleet once per day, same way as all those who do not want or (as in my case) can not use authentificator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinku Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 nope its not required to have one. You can also buy the $4 keygenerator. To the people who are going to freak out about that the generator is to protect your account from YOURSELF. Also, it's $4 so dont freak out like a child. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patina Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 (edited) The extra fleet pass, if it is on a separate CD timer, is available at the security vendor as an enticement to protect your account with a random numeric sequence. Customers that have safe accounts put in fewer trouble calls and are less likely to quit due to someone running off with their stuff. If the security vendor fleet pass is made available to everyone, that enticement becomes less enticing. Androids, iphones and key fobs aren't "required" as you imply in your title, they are simply a means by which the company can reduce support costs. Nonavailability of the fob in your region (possibly due to laws regarding encryption?) or your choice not to own a particular brand of smartphone doesn't mean that the requirement to receive the enticement should be waived as that simply isn't fair to the rest of use that have to put in another code every time we log into the game or forums. Your frustration may further be exacerbated once they get around to implementing a crew skill app for iphone/pad and androids. Edited February 25, 2012 by Patina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patina Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 We are talking about NEEDED in-game feature here. I have the security vendor open have haven't felt the NEED to drop a lousy 1k on the fleet pass yet. Patience is a virtue, especially if you don't have an android/iphone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darthshnooky Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 No, because the Fleet Pass with a shorter cooldown is NOT a REQUIRED part of the game. It's a convenience. Moving more quickly to your ship or to the fleet is a convenience and a luxury, not a requirement for the game. Most planets have a shuttle that can take you to the fleet (for Flashpoints) and they are adding in the ability to skip planetary orbiting stations to get back to your ship. The short-CD Fleet Passes are a reward to encourage people to use security devices that help protect their accounts. This allows BioWare to spend less time dealing with stolen accounts and similar security issues -- which is a financial boon for them. So a non-essential reward is associated with this. If you don't/cant' use it, then you'll have to spend an extra five minutes of your life getting from one place to another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NRieh Posted February 25, 2012 Author Share Posted February 25, 2012 (edited) You can also buy the $4 keygenerator. Can you read? I CAN NOT buy one, not for 4$ not for 40$. They DO NOT SELL it to me. And OFFICIAL Q&A thread states that they are not going to implemend an extra features, just because fleet pass from security vendor works perfectly fine. I am not going to discuss how much this feature is needed here (but since they managed to answer this question - looks like it IS, not only for me). I have plain facts here. What official person stated actually is NOT correct. And it also means that their customers service and in-game features (for some reasons one hardly can explain) depend on brand and model of cell-phone and\or on location where customer lives. Your frustration may further be exacerbated once they get around to implementing a crew skill app for iphone/pad and androids. Wrong. We are not talking about extra utility that allows you to work with GTN and\or crew skills. We are talking about IN-GAME feature, isn't it obvious? You really can't tell the difference? Edited February 25, 2012 by NRieh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renegadeimp Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Fleet passes are convienience items. The 1 hr passes are an additional benefit of having the security key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indyssien Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 You can get an android simulation for your computer and run the app there. /thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renegadeimp Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 You can get an android simulation for your computer and run the app there. /thread. Which defeats the purpose of having the key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indyssien Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Which defeats the purpose of having the key. lolwut? You still generate a code based on your account that no one else can generate, that lasts only 30 seconds...thus the name Security Key... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llaera Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Which defeats the purpose of having the key. Defeats the security purpose, yes, but if the person just wants to have access to the vendor. *shrug* Personally, considering that there are fleet shuttles easily accessible on most planets, I don't even use the 1 hour cooldown fleet passes. They're certainly not necessary to play the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llaera Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 (edited) lolwut? You still generate a code based on your account that no one else can generate, that lasts only 30 seconds...thus the name Security Key... The purpose of the authenticator is to have something that is completely from your computer. Edited February 25, 2012 by Llaera Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mecher Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 (edited) So... you complain about the advantages of having a security key, and then when someone gives you a way to have one for free you STILL complain. Edited February 25, 2012 by Notannos rude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHiddey Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Oh yes it's shorter, indeed. It's 60 mins afaik. They can do whatever they like and move to FP or GTN as they need it. I can move to fleet once per day, same way as all those who do not want or (as in my case) can not use authentificator. Hello? Ship? Direct shuttle from some planets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mecher Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 The purpose of the authenticator is to have something that is completely from your computer. If someone has access to your computer like that, you have bigger worries then someone logging into your account on game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChimaeraUK Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 I have the security app and just use my regular 18hr fleet pass, i don't really see what the problem is, it's merely a convenience item. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indyssien Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 (edited) So... you complain about the advantages of having a security key, and then when someone gives you a way to have one for free you STILL complain. Thank you for this. Edited February 25, 2012 by Notannos rude quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weaksauce Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 I dont think this poster is going to be happy till the actual skill is down to a 30 min CD like the passes no matter what. They have been given appropriate information to partake in one of the few systems of this game that actually works flawlessly, but it wasn't good enough. /wantitnow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intristin Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 I have an android and use the security key on my account, so I have access to the one hour fleet pass. I will however agree completely with the OP. The one hour fleet pass should be made available to ALL players. It is simply too useful a tool to keep from players who can't or wont use it. There are other ways to create perks that don't screw over players so badly. I can't imagine playing this game without the hourly fleet pass, I use it a lot when jumping around the galaxy with guild mates doing different things. If it was not available to me I would probably end up leaving as travel is very tedious in this game as it is for no good reason. I'm happy to see that Bioware is aware of the problem and looking to address it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matteis Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 nope its not required to have one. You can also buy the $4 keygenerator. To the people who are going to freak out about that the generator is to protect your account from YOURSELF. Also, it's $4 so dont freak out like a child. This people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KahnyaGnorc Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 I have an authenticator, and I have yet to buy anything from the security vendor. So, no, they are not required. It isn't like they sell important quest items (exclusively or otherwise) or min-max equipment or the like. All they sell is fluff and convenience/luxury items, which are most certainly NOT required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oneirophrenia Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 (edited) Well according to Nielsen, 91% of all Americans uses mobile phones and out of that, 44% of them own smart phones. That percentage has more than doubled from 18% just a mere 2 years ago. Frankly, it would not surprise me if 80-90% of all wireless customers owns a smart phone in another 2 years from now. Can't blame BW for playing along with this rapidly accelerating trend as smart devices get even cheaper and 4G LTE networks become more widespread/stable. If a developer creates a game that runs on your older, slower PC but then released an add-on tool such as a map editor which you can't run because it is more rendering/resource intensive, can you really blame the developer? A more sensible approach would be to just bite the bullet and upgrade your machine to be more in line with the rest of the technological world. Besides, the fleet pass itself is hardly a required part of the game. It has no special properties except for added convenience. What the fleet pass does can be achieved by using other alternatives such as the emergency fleet pass or using quick travel to get to the starport/flashpoint/orbital station shuttles. I have the mobile security app and I don't even bother with the fleet pass because it is unnecessary in my opinion. Edited February 25, 2012 by Oneirophrenia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beachcomberb Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 nope its not required to have one. You can also buy the $4 keygenerator. To the people who are going to freak out about that the generator is to protect your account from YOURSELF. Also, it's $4 so dont freak out like a child. Cant buy it here. Your post is misleading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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