Abriael Posted February 2, 2012 Author Share Posted February 2, 2012 (edited) They have to pay back the 200 million dollar investment Lucas Arts made before they can take any profit and even then it will be 30% a month. It will help ea's bottom line more in 6 months to a year from now more then it will right now. They've probably paid off a good portion of the initial investment with their 2 million box sales but it's probably not all of it. No. LucasArts didn't loan money to EA. It's an investment. EA has to pay back nothing. Lucas simply takes a slice of the profit, like any investor does. Edited February 2, 2012 by Abriael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darka Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 What's with all the EA hate? They're not really much worse than Activision or any other large publishers. Its cool to hate, and people love LA and BW more. Even if LA/BW decided to burn puppies, EA would get the blame. EA have come along way since the early 2000's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iain_b Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Considering that EA is the only company that really stands up to the great evil of game publishing (Activision), there's nothing wrong in celebrating that EA is doing well. LOL, since when is EA not "the great evil of game publishing"? They are everything that is wrong with gaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abriael Posted February 2, 2012 Author Share Posted February 2, 2012 LOL, since when is EA not "the great evil of game publishing"? They are everything that is wrong with gaming. No, they're not. They turned around quite radically in the last few years. If you want to look for "everything that is wrong with gaming" Activision is where you have to aim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTuloJr Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 The most telling information has NOT been released to the press.... yet Which is EA/BioWare Austin is turning a profit with SWTOR. That information has NOT come out, and anyone who believes the positive press spin as their investment advice... needs to seek more information and understanding. If they're turning a profit, then by all means, THAT is what they should say, and provide real accounting evidence to back that up. Until then, everything released *CAN* be a lie, oh, I'm sorry, highly massaged marketing information, becuase even though some numbers have been released, they haven't included actual dollar figures and financial projections, to fully come under SEC regulations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mezlabor Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 No. LucasArts didn't loan money to EA. It's an investment. EA has to pay back nothing. Lucas simply takes a slice of the profit, like any investor does. Your right. I misread the article. EA gets the box sales not Lucas arts. Lucas arts takes a 35% cut of the residual. Ea stock will do very well. I bought some >.> Specially with ME3 coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abriael Posted February 2, 2012 Author Share Posted February 2, 2012 Your right. I misread the article. EA gets the box sales not Lucas arts. Lucas arts takes a 35% cut of the residual. Ea stock will do very well. I bought some >.> Specially with ME3 coming. if EA wanted to play it really smart and smooth, they'd include a 15 days free trial code for SWTOR with each purchase of ME3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkanovi Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 if EA wanted to play it really smart and smooth, they'd include a 15 days free trial code for SWTOR with each purchase of ME3. That's actually a very good idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jett-Rinn Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 The most telling information has NOT been released to the press.... yet Which is EA/BioWare Austin is turning a profit with SWTOR. That information has NOT come out, and anyone who believes the positive press spin as their investment advice... needs to seek more information and understanding. If they're turning a profit, then by all means, THAT is what they should say, and provide real accounting evidence to back that up. Until then, everything released *CAN* be a lie, oh, I'm sorry, highly massaged marketing information, becuase even though some numbers have been released, they haven't included actual dollar figures and financial projections, to fully come under SEC regulations. Translation: /stamps foot you wait it will failzorz just you wait!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drewser Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 The most telling information has NOT been released to the press.... yet Which is EA/BioWare Austin is turning a profit with SWTOR. That information has NOT come out, and anyone who believes the positive press spin as their investment advice... needs to seek more information and understanding. If they're turning a profit, then by all means, THAT is what they should say, and provide real accounting evidence to back that up. Until then, everything released *CAN* be a lie, oh, I'm sorry, highly massaged marketing information, becuase even though some numbers have been released, they haven't included actual dollar figures and financial projections, to fully come under SEC regulations. A new reach everyday. Watching the haters squirm has been quite enjoyable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHeadCapper Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 , highly massaged marketing information, becuase even though some numbers have been released, they haven't included actual dollar figures and financial projections, to fully come under SEC regulations. Ahh, so you don't undestand what an earnings call is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VainEldritch Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 This comes as no surprise to me - BW have made a great MMO. Congratulations on the initial success, BW - I look forward to many years of fun in SWTOR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mezlabor Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 (edited) if EA wanted to play it really smart and smooth, they'd include a 15 days free trial code for SWTOR with each purchase of ME3. Yea I hope the restructuring is done tho and their operating margins and eps dramatically improve. The sales numbers for swtor were good but the overall report was pretty bad when you look at the EPS loss for the year of 2011. Edited February 2, 2012 by mezlabor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phuzzi Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 Those citing the current state of the global economy as another reason SWTOR should be proud of it's number are unfortunately mistaken, the current state of things is actually a benefit to SWTOR and will boost it's numbers. People will cut back on going out (eating/drinking/movies etc.) and stay home instead and MMOs represent very good value for money in terms of $/hr of entertainment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dovahbrah Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 The fanboy is strong in this thread. I enjoy the game, but geesh, get off BW's nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wifeaggro Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 So, SWTOR has 1.7 million subscribers and growing, and EA's stock raise 6%. Not too shabby. Not too shabby. Wonder where the analysts that were throwing mud on the game are now. Probably responding to angry calls. Guess old dear Pachter was right for once Its a great start but most of the analysts were anticpating a strong start, i dont know where you got info the financial analysts were downing it. the test will be 90 days and 6 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lagmonster Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 Without EA Activision would probably have a near-monopoly, and the world would be a MUCH worse place. How about a world without ether of them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vallowen Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 just remember, those number are taken from dec 31st only 11 days after release, when everyone still has their mandatory sub set up in order to actually play the large drop off typically comes just before the free month runs out, when people decide whether or not they want to continue playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CadaKai Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 just remember, those number are taken from dec 31st only 11 days after release, when everyone still has their mandatory sub set up in order to actually play the large drop off typically comes just before the free month runs out, when people decide whether or not they want to continue playing. actually the numbers were taken "more than 30 days" after launch according to Bioware themselves. But thanks for trying to play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drewser Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 just remember, those number are taken from dec 31st only 11 days after release, when everyone still has their mandatory sub set up in order to actually play the large drop off typically comes just before the free month runs out, when people decide whether or not they want to continue playing. No they weren't or you would have ZERO drop out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferroz Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 Yeah she swore she would never blog again of the sub number reached 3 million...she since removed that blog.....she is more or less considered a laughing stock anyway. Oh this is the blog where she predicted the games doom. I highly encourage people to tell her how wrong she was. Politely and civilly of course I wonder if the wayback machine archived it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawnstar Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 good for them but thoes numbers are skewed. Its hard to tell how many are actually paying subscribers vs free 30 day. Game needs more time to cook before hard numbers can be pinned. Also when did there fiscal year end? Dec 31? jan 31? makes a big difference. just like haters take the first glitch and call doom, dont take the first bit of good news and say the game prints money. you know what they say when you assume. http://techland.time.com/2012/02/02/star-wars-the-old-republic-nears-two-million-active-subscriber-mark/ Wedbush Morgan analyst Michael Pachter was bullish about the sales and subscription numbers, suggesting that of the 1.7 million active subscribers figure, between 900,000 and 1.2 million were paying subscribers as of Jan. 31, while the remainder were trial subscriptions. Pachter believes that, worst case, 900,000 of the 1.2 million purchasers (through Dec. 31) converted to paying subscriptions (about 75%), while best case, 1.2 million out of 1.5 million purchasers converted (about 80%). The changing purchasers figure (through Dec. 31) is based on differing estimates of when people actually picked up the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadokaoh Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 good for them but thoes numbers are skewed. Its hard to tell how many are actually paying subscribers vs free 30 day. Game needs more time to cook before hard numbers can be pinned. Also when did there fiscal year end? Dec 31? jan 31? makes a big difference. just like haters take the first glitch and call doom, dont take the first bit of good news and say the game prints money. you know what they say when you assume. http://techland.time.com/2012/02/02/star-wars-the-old-republic-nears-two-million-active-subscriber-mark/ Q: Are these 1.7 subscribers paying? A: Active subscribers means anyone paying or in their trial period. Most of those 1.7m are paying at this point http://www.darthhater.com/articles/swtor-news/19915-electronic-arts-q3-fy12-earnings-call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uthic Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 I just can't be happy about EA doing well at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wifeaggro Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 good for them but thoes numbers are skewed. Its hard to tell how many are actually paying subscribers vs free 30 day. Game needs more time to cook before hard numbers can be pinned. Also when did there fiscal year end? Dec 31? jan 31? makes a big difference. just like haters take the first glitch and call doom, dont take the first bit of good news and say the game prints money. you know what they say when you assume. http://techland.time.com/2012/02/02/star-wars-the-old-republic-nears-two-million-active-subscriber-mark/ Dont post reality uere it interferes with the blind fanatics that lick dog poop and tell themselves its chocolate. SWTOR has had a strong start but there is plenty of work left to do to convert this game into a long haul true mmo. Its currently a very good online game woth story. Its missing some fundemental mmo features that keep people playing past gear progression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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