MrMack Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 I'm very annoyed with that fact that I do not have the option to get any gray or neutral gear. I'm a bounty hunter, so it only makes sense that I shouldn't hold any particular allegiance to some sort of light or dark alignment... if anything, Bounty Hunters and Smugglers should be thoroughly rewarded for managing to remain in neutral alignment throughout so many dialog options... I'm only 200 points away from 100% neutral and I'm level 32. I'm actually quite confident that I remember hearing the devs say there would be neutral gear way back before launch. If there is no neutral gear then all you're doing is forcing people down a path they may not typically choose, which can be a good thing but is also a rather suffocating method of story telling... it takes away a bit of freedom. so... Devs, are there any plans to incorporate neutral alignment relics and other gear?? or do I have to start making decisions I would usually not make and build a character that I may not be a fan of just so I'm not horribly handicapped? tags: neutral rewards, gray alignment, in between dark and light side, grey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoggyMack Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Devs have said they acknowledge this issue and are working on a solution, one that involves neutral gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Explosive_Lasers Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 The gear for light and dark isn't even very good. A few relics for differing levels, some lowbee gear, a few orange pieces, two speeders, and a mini-pet. Doesn't really matter. This coming from a guy with mostly neutral characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnubisXy Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Relics are a pretty big deal. They can add quite a bit to a character, and a 0/0 Neutral character can't equip any relics ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yfelsung Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 I always looked at it like this: A Sith who is most LS is neutral A Jedi who is mostly DS is neutral Because a Jedi's DS options are nowhere near as dark as the Sith's DS options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaelMacoss Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Relics are a pretty big deal. They can add quite a bit to a character, and a 0/0 Neutral character can't equip any relics ever. Except compared to the best endgame relics, the ones that are alignment restricted are practically trash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMack Posted January 21, 2012 Author Share Posted January 21, 2012 ?Devs have said they acknowledge this issue and are working on a solution, one that involves neutral gear. can you link to this? I haven't seen acknowledgment by the devs... great news if so though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimG Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 ? can you link to this? I haven't seen acknowledgment by the devs... great news if so though. It's been mentioned in several interviews and articles back even before the game launched. Here's a link to the one of the more recent dev comments about it: http://www.darthhater.com/articles/swtor-news/19869-james-ohlen-unveils-future-plans-for-neutral-gear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathDiciple Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Except compared to the best endgame relics, the ones that are alignment restricted are practically trash. Yeah but you are left with NO relics (except matrix farmed which is PITA) until you get endgame ones. That's the main problem imo - the other light/dark stuff is not as important but they have to come up with relic solution while leveling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turikan Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 I hope they do in the future. I've noticed many times in dialogue I have the option to take a light side or dark side choice and then follow that up with another choice of the opposite alignment. For example sparing someone (LS) only to get a follow option to say "Haha I was only kidding!" *Kill* (DS). Situations like that could be interesting, but there is no point to them since they get no rewards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halofax Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Be neutral in quests. Farm esselles/black talon for points to make up for choices. Turn off sith corruption. Profit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMack Posted January 22, 2012 Author Share Posted January 22, 2012 (edited) well I guess since it's been confirmed, now I'll just sit here and patiently wait for yet another patch to give us something that should have definitely been available at launch... but hey, at least us early comers get a pretty little badge and title, yay right? that should make up for the neglection of such simple concepts. ::sarcasm:: Edited January 22, 2012 by MrMack fixing typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justamemory Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 the MMO genre is a handicap on all of gaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMack Posted January 22, 2012 Author Share Posted January 22, 2012 (edited) the MMO genre is a handicap on all of gaming. silly troll. Edited January 22, 2012 by MrMack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gomla Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 No. Having no legs and arms is a handicap. Having a neutral alignment is a bit of a gear let down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxAlias Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 So which is better? LS or DS for Bounty Hunter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunfox Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 So which is better? LS or DS for Bounty Hunter? Clearly LS is the way to go and any professional gamer worth his money would agree with me! /sarcasm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areto Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 I"m grey and what's a relic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeejayMac Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Sitting at around Dark III on my BH I'm finding it rather annoying in the 40's that I cannot get any relics that are for my level. I'm playing my character how I imagine him to make decisions, I don't want to have to make ridiculous decisions for no reason just so I can use level appropriate relics. The DS/LS choices should be cosmetic or fun in nature, not actually affect your gear and stats. Make relics DS/LS/Neutral...there shouldn't be Dark IV and V relics unless there are level equivalent ones for Dark II and III. Maybe I don't want my character to be completely evil, but in order to have a level appropriate relic while leveling I have no choice. That's bad design if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daemian Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 ? can you link to this? I haven't seen acknowledgment by the devs... great news if so though. http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/01/11/swtors-alignment-system-will-offer-exclusive-loot-for-neutral-players/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi_Wannabe Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Relics are a pretty big deal. They can add quite a bit to a character, and a 0/0 Neutral character can't equip any relics ever. But you can equip them while Light or Dark and then become neutral. I assume they continue to function just like color crystals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi_Wannabe Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 I always looked at it like this: A Sith who is most LS is neutral A Jedi who is mostly DS is neutral Because a Jedi's DS options are nowhere near as dark as the Sith's DS options. I feel the same way. Sometimes the Sith options seem like Dark and Darker dark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordCabbage Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 I feel the same way. Sometimes the Sith options seem like Dark and Darker dark. But what about smugglers, troopers, agents and bounty hunters? Particularily smugglers and bounty hunters! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshlaBoga Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 But what about smugglers, troopers, agents and bounty hunters? Particularily smugglers and bounty hunters! a 10 month necro. That's borderline gravedigging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kourage Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Devs have said they acknowledge this issue and are working on a solution, one that involves neutral gear. a 10 month necro. That's borderline gravedigging. 10 moths eh and Devs have done nothing lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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