Valeena Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Thank you, Op. You managed to describe exaclty how I feel whenever I step into the PvP forums. Bumping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azmundai Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 **** doesnt need to be nerfed. bioware just needs to get it's head out of it's *** and make some actual brackets for pvp so 80% of all battles are complete steam rolls. the gear advantage in this game is just ridiculous. puts wow's arena gear to shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaodon Posted February 22, 2012 Author Share Posted February 22, 2012 Op marry me? (I'm a fat hairy dude) My wife says: "No." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicain Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 I approve this post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicain Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 **** doesnt need to be nerfed. bioware just needs to get it's head out of it's *** and make some actual brackets for pvp so 80% of all battles are complete steam rolls. the gear advantage in this game is just ridiculous. puts wow's arena gear to shame. You over state the gear advantage. As i've stated before, my level 12 Jugg rolls people in WZ's more than my 50BM because people are typically jokes at PVP when they're mentally use to static mobs. I think the 10 - 49 bracket is fine, and I'm speaking from the perspective of a level 12 JUGG, where I get my hps bumped to a whooping 12k, and I have a whole two real fight skills to use, and my leap. Hell my guy doesn't even have sprint yet, and I kill people like you with no real effort. Now, I'm speaking truth from a level 50 BM and a lvl 12 Jugg, so I see both sides and don't see a problem with the pvp 'brackets' and gear. If you're under geared, go do your dailies and gear up, but if you're just bad at PVP, work to get better at pvp and you'll see gear isn't that important. Gear is there so two equal players, will have some gradient of ability. For instance, there is skill and strength in real fighting, if two people have exactly equal skills, the stronger of the two will usually win, all things being even. Look at gear as a character's strength, and your skill is your pvp ability. The harder you work the stronger you get, that's it, it's not a huge mystery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kammkala Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Super! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groncho Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 bumpPlease stick this onethe force is strong in this statements Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeeFiFoFum Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Nerf operatives. /thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple-A Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 (edited) I read this in Mark Day's voice. Check out Mark Day Comedy on youtube if you want a laugh. Edited February 27, 2012 by Triple-A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbwarlord Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 this is a great thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twickers Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 You just gave me a good laugh my friend, thanks I needed it:jawa_biggrin: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainInsano Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Step 1: Roll a Sorceror and be a part 75% of the playerbase.Step 2: Cry nerf on anything that comes remotely close to killing you.Step 3: BW will nerf your counterclasses to appease the majority of the playerbase (it's metrics, silly) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdmiralOnasi Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Pretty good QQ textbook, OP. That is almost word for word what happened leading up to the massive Scoundrel nerf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groncho Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Step 1: Roll a Sorceror and be a part 75% of the playerbase. Step 2: Cry nerf on anything that comes remotely close to killing you. Step 3: BW will nerf your counterclasses to appease the majority of the playerbase (it's metrics, silly) sounds like u need some love i smell QQ here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KorinHyvek Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Here here! Sage still annoys me, but as I've said (though not anywhere I can garuntee any of you have seen it), it's the fact that they can do just about anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleightly Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 7) Roll Sorc/Sage. Do way better than your skill level in PVP. Assume it is because you are so awesome then tell everyone to l2p. Don't stop to wonder why you're suddenly good at PVP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groncho Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 7) Roll Sorc/Sage. Do way better than your skill level in PVP. Assume it is because you are so awesome then tell everyone to l2p. Don't stop to wonder why you're suddenly good at PVP. more QQ tytytytytytytytytyty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaodon Posted March 2, 2012 Author Share Posted March 2, 2012 Pretty good QQ textbook, OP. That is almost word for word what happened leading up to the massive Scoundrel nerf Yes, the nerf to stacking adrenals/buffs, plus the surge nerf would have been more than sufficient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
announcerharris Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 Had to resurrect this - love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badlander Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 Had to resurrect this - love it! Agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnugthreeonefive Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 And don't forget, when all else fails, to revert to name calling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiesbert Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Welcome to Zaodon's PvP Guide to Crying for Nerfs! The following is a guide you should follow whenever you want to create "Nerf (class goes here)" threads in this forum. 1. Have Selective Memory If you see an opponent attacking a team mate and kill them easily, only to get ganked by that same opponent 2 minutes later when they pop out of nowhere and attack you while you're engaged with 3 other enemies and at 65% health with no cooldowns left, you need to engage in something called "Selective Memory". You must block out the fact that they were an easy kill a few moments ago, and only complain on the forums about how they easily killed you. Use the terms "insane", "overpowered", and "ridiculous" to make your point stick. 2. Ignorance is Bliss Never go to fan websites, wiki's or other sources of information to learn about all classes, abilities and talents. Never. By remaining ignorant of the actual features of SWTOR, you can claim things that are simply untrue/impossible. Examples include "He knocked me down and landed 7 attacks before I got up", "I'm a lvl 50 tank-spec with 60 valor and full PvP gear and he 3-shotted me", or "I was chain-stunned by him 5 times in a row and died." 3. Wield Your Ego Claim to be the absolute best player in the world at SWTOR and PvP. Provide examples of how you "pwned" 5 people at once the "other day", and how you scored in Huttball with "the entire other team beating on you". Then claim that the class you want to nerf can beat you at will, and therefore since you are sooooo "uber", there is no possible way they could defeat you unless their class was OP. 4. Deny Reality Even though SWTOR PvP is team based, you must never, ever admit this, no matter what you do. Use the term "1v1" constantly, to the point of nauseum. Never admit that all Warzones are won or lost as a team. 5. Exploit n00bs As with all MMOs, SWTOR will have a lot of players who are not great at PvP, but will enter Warzones to try it out for the fun of it. But, the reality is, these people are n00bs and will not be very good at it. Your job is to deny this, and claim that every single player in a PvP zone is an expert, who never makes mistakes, never does n00bish things, has perfect tactics and strategies, and is top ranked. When these "experts" are getting killed a lot in PvP (and make sure you have videos of this happening), use that as "evidence" that the class you want to nerf is "overpowered" because they must be if they are killing all these "PvP Vets". 6. Anecdotal Evidence is Key If there is a class you want to nerf, be sure to get some screenshots or videos which show how "overpowered" they are. Even though these classes will routinely score near the bottom of the scoreboard, wait until you are in a match where coincidence has them at the top (preferably, #1), and screenshot/fraps it. Use this as your "evidence" that all players of that class are "OP" and lack skills and use the easy button, and claim they "always" score at the top. If someone posts screenshots/videos of that class scoring poorly, claim that their screenshot/video is "an aberration", and that yours is the case in "virtually all warzones." You truly understood Nooboligy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redmarx Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 (edited) Excellent post OP. Should be stickied. Step 1: Roll a Sorceror and be a part 75% of the playerbase. Step 2: Cry nerf on anything that comes remotely close to killing you. Step 3: BW will nerf your counterclasses to appease the majority of the playerbase (it's metrics, silly) And here we have it: the clueless pug who came to cry nerf on a balanced class. You could not ask for a better example. 7) Roll Sorc/Sage. Do way better than your skill level in PVP. Assume it is because you are so awesome then tell everyone to l2p. Don't stop to wonder why you're suddenly good at PVP. I was wrong, you could. Edited March 22, 2012 by Redmarx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzone Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Remember BW has metrics to prove that a class is OP. Metrics = counting the number of QQ posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kai-Eurah-Tird Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 A flow chart would complete this guide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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