If you're DPS go with the +strength datacron. Maximize your strengths, don't worry about your weaknesses.

I like the hood. When 1.2 comes out I'll likely be wearing the level 40 PvP gear forever. I don't like the tractor @ss that come with some of the robes, however....

Ranked WZs are NOT about making friends. They've NEVER been about making friends. They're about finding the best players who play the best PvP classes. You can be the nicest, most sociable person in the world, but if you're playing a bad class, or playing a good class poorly, you're not getting in.

I believe he said unranked WZs were Tier 1 and Ranked WZs were Tier 2. That pretty much means that ranked WZ gear will be an upgrade to Tier 1.

I agree with you. I agree with you too.

Oh good grief, they want to make an e-port out of it. Well there you have it, these devs are deluded. Different rankings for different sets of gear is beyond stupid. Its detrimental to the game.

I agree with the OP. PvP is supposed to test skill, not gear. The people that say there is no skill in PvP were abused children. PvE progression fights progressively harder bosses and needs progressively better gear. PvP gear needs to keep up with PvE gear to prevent PvE gear becoming better for PvP. PvPers don't get more hit points and attack harder as you progress on; you're fighting the same players the day you turn 50 as the day you hit War Hero. They may obtain better gear (as you will) but that is capped at a certain point. Eventually the playing field evens out for everyone. So the people making the claim "derp derp raiders get better gear by raiding so ranked WZ players should too herpa derp" are incorrect. Different gear? That's fine. Better gear? No.

Here's a little poem I wrote: Lolo DoT spammers, lolo You're mad You're sad You're bad Lololo Bioware makes a change You flock to the forums, how strange Most of you are acting deranged Lololo Your dots can't prevent me from capping After I killed you and you are dirt-napping You'll have to resort to sapping Lololo The change is made for the best So please, put your whining to rest And not stink when completing your daily "win 3 WZs" quest Lololo I hope you like it

Sounds to me like come patch 1.1.5 the HKs you get in WZs will count toward the Ilum daily, effectively making Ilum irrelevant.

Seems random to me. I've used my AoE mez, cc'ed 2 players as before the ball got there and they still caught it. I was upset. If you knock them out of the receiver circle you'll get the pick it looks like.

I love the change. Then again, I'm not playing a DoT class and have no ability to cleanse myself. And I know how to use AoEs near the nodes. Another step in the right direction Bioware.

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If they are moving, use your AoE snare and catch them, maybe even get a step ahead of them before you fire your Sweep. If you think you're close enough to Sweep them, you are definitely close enough to snare them first.

True or False: Juggs/Guards regularly hit for 6K+ The answer is False. We don't. The biggest crit I've had is 5800 with everything popped. And THAT was against a fresh level 50 with 11,000 hit points. He had very little if any PvP gear on, and I popped trinkets, adrenals, and had a str/power stim on. A guardian may hit someone for more, but it's a weak target. PvP isn't balanced around people in greens, it's balanced around full sets of PvP gear. Against a fellow BM my Force Sweep will hit around 3500-4500 tops. Not nearly as "oooo scary". Can we hit someone for 6K? Yes. Does it happen regularly? No, it does not. Does it happen against geared up players? Never. If you're getting hit for 6K by a guardian you're getting hit hard by EVERYONE. It's not a "Force Sweep is OP" problem, it's a "I'm outgeared" problem.

This is in PvE right?

We have a 4 second stun. It's channeled, unless you spec Defense. We can get knockback immunity if we spec into Vig. You have cake, you have icecream. If you want them both then they take away your fork. I don't know if it's right or wrong, but that's the way it is.

Until you can show me the numbers, your claims have no substance.

I've been running a focus build with the Shii-cho talents for a while, and while they are nice I've been thinking of going to a permanent Soresu form focus build similar to Vosh. As they've said, you lose a little damage but you gain a lot more utility and survivability with Soresu. The downside is, yes, focus generation sucks. You really have to manage it well or you will run into dry spells while you're spamming Strike. Focus management will only come to you through practice. You don't have this problem in Shii-cho. After running many, many WZs I've found most of the time I'm sitting in Soresu form. I only go Shii-cho when: -I'm on offense in Voidstar -The initial attack in Civil War I'm in Soresu when: -I'm defending a node in Civil War -I'm defending a door in Voidstar -I'm the ball carrier in Huttball -I'm guarding the ball carrier in Huttball -I'm playing with someone else (which is often) -I'm running around in Ilum solo -I'm in Ilum guarding a healer (which means I'm always in Soresu for Ilum) People (especially healers) love that Guard bubble. And not that it matters to me that much, but if you like medals, very rarely am I not #1 in medals when using Soresu form, and I don't get them by farming. It seems like I'm in Soresu so much that it may be better to drop the talents that buff Shii-cho form and pick up the ones that perform better for Soresu. I wouldn't worry about Unwavering Focus, many guardians clip Master Strike anyway. You'll get the first 2 strikes before they interrupt it anyway, and if they do you can throw a harder hitting attack than that 3rd tick. Inner Focus is good, especially since the build is tight on Focus anyway. Cap it out. Like Adante said, one point in Solidified Force is also good, free snare means spam it til your heart's content when people are running down the hall in Voidstar. OR stand at the tunnel exit in Civil War and spam it while your teammates are capping. Snare is good for most fights, but the ability to spam it means you don't have to worry about running the tank dry. This build is a Chevy Silverado, not a Nissan Leaf. In the build I would use I'd have 1 point left over, I'd throw it into Improved Sundering Strike. A 50% chance for an additional sunder isn't bad. It's not like you won't be using that attack early and often. Good luck-

Unless you're a defensive specced guardian this isn't true. Don't get me wrong, we should be using guard on others depending on the situation, and we should be using taunts all the time. But there are plenty of Shii-cho and Shien guardians out there doing very well in a damage role. This is purely a playstyle choice. This IS true. We are meant to support others, but somehow that means sacrificing our own "tankiness." We're pretty squishy.

Yeah, looks kinda dumb. And the robes show you with a normal butt in the preview window, put it on and <bam> jedi got back.

In his defense, nothing but videos of you 1v1ing someone get boring. Fighting outnumbered and winning is what sells tickets, so to speak. And you won't find too many players that can 1v2 a pair of geared, skilled PvPers. Regarding the guardian using slash, heck man, as a focus specced guardian sometimes slash is the only thing you HAVE once both of your singularity builders, bladestorm and master strike are down. Lots of focus+no decent attacks left = slash slash slash. When you're dueling it's usually not an issue, but a WZ sometimes that's all you're left with on prolonged node defenses and what not. Not a bad video.

I laughed. This guy needs to lighten up and worry about winning matches, not ***** about people who can't carry him.

Because they won't do that. They nerf Force Sweep and neuter the Focus tree altogether. And if they do that, by rights they should buff both the Focus tree and the Vig tree as well, because there won't be a decent option for PvP DPS. Personally I wish they'd buff Vig a little and I'd go that way instead of Focus, but meh, you play the hand you're dealt. And Force Sweep doesn't hit targets for 6K anymore unless you're popping trinkets and adrenals and hitting a level 45 out in Voss. I'm in full champ/battlemaster gear and the highest crit I've done was 5,800 and that was before the surge nerf, and THAT was against a guy with 11,000 hit points, which of course means he was a fresh 50 in green gear. Your average hit with a built-up Force Sweep is right around 4K, and that is not out of line with what other classes are doing. PvP at level 50 is balanced around end-game gear, not greens. And believe me, you want it that way.

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I'm sorry but since you stopped reading you won't see that I called you ignorant. Force Sweep still does decent damage in a Vig spec, and it's FREE.