Hello Bounty Hunters, I am rerolling on a new server and would like some imput on your class at 50. I am choosing between powertech, assassin and marauder. At 50, I will be trying end game pve and pvp. I would like a class that is not face roll, but can do well if played well. I am coming from operative/sorc. I am looking to get some imput on pt at 50, since I have no experience with that class, and which class you would choose and why. Thanks in advance for your guidance.

How are you getting the same numbers in lesser gear, when op is getting the absolute most out of his gear? I don't get it. Do you run in a premade with better team synergy? If so, what do you run? Because you cannot get the same numbers otherwise. The math won't let you.

Thanks! Extremely helpful and detailed post!

I am currently rerolling on another server because mine seemed less than active. My new server is extremely busy. I am able to use all that I have learned playing the game to choose a new main. I have narrowed it to 3 ACs. Assassin Marauder Powertech I will be participating in end game PvE and PvP and want a class that at 50 can be competitive in both, without being faceroll (my prior main was a sorc and I got bored). I would like to be able to find groups and help them clear content or win WZs. Any advice, suggestions would be appreciated. I will eventually level all three to 50, but I have to start somewhere and lack experience at 50 to know the best place to start. Thanks all.

How do Powertechs stack up against Marauders and Tankasins? Seems like the most dominant forces I have encountered in PvP were always Powertechs.

The animation made me stop playing my merc. I am so happy they changed this!

I am not sure about this. OP is not the best 1v1 class. Tank Specced Assassins/Shadows and Marauder/Sentinels are the best 1v1 classes. Powertech/Vanguard are also extremely tough to beat. Healing specced Sorc/Sage and Merc/Commando are also really strong 1v1. I won't say that OP is gimped, because I am not certain that is true, but it does not appear to have a viable dps:survivability ratio. They either destroy you right away or you will kill them, even if your health is at 25% when you really start in on them. OP is a great support class when you attack a healer with another dps.

But a tank specced assassin does as much damage and is extremely hearty. I assume the OP is taking pvp because all melee have enough survivability for pve, so it's not an issue. For that, pyro pt and the tanky assassin have more survivability that a marauder because it's not cd dependent.

It will be more reliable, but maybe less fun. Part of the fun was waiting for a RS proc.

Seriously, I have no trouble killing all of you. I am faster, bigger and stronger than you. I can hit you on the move and behind cover. I kill you before you react, while you are stunned and before you know it. I can shoot around corners and through obstacles. I can charge all over the battlefield, on a whim, and little kids trust me. You cannot see me, cannot find me, cannot hit me and cannot even comment about me in chat. I cap nodes right out from under you and I stand in the acid for fun. I can throw the Huttball across the line to score. I can hear your vent. My moves are better than yours. You cannot rofl me. Your spit hits your teammates. I knock you back and pull you in. I choke, impale, dart and push you down. I kill you from above and below. There is a strat guide online for people who want to kill me, but it's not finished. BW has heard your cries, felt your tears, and wiped your little bottoms. They have tried to nerf me, but the nerf bat was resisted. I am invincible. Not.

To everyone who has not read through the thread: Do not reply because you will sound like an idiot. Seriously. "Get a life" - addressed in detail "Get a job" - addressed in detail such that you come across as a callous jerk raising the question "Can't be done because I can't do it" - you are an amateur gamer and have no real idea about what you are doing. You think you do and that's so cute, but I assure you, you don't. "Screenshot or it didn't happen" - OP has nothing to prove to you. He has given you his server and you can use it to find a guildie and just ask. You want the truth, then work for it you lazy sob. Probably why you aren't 50. OP has an incredible attitude to al of the jealous trolls posting here. Ironically, my guess is that most of the negativity is coming from self proclaimed elitists who don't realize and never will, that this is just a game. OP - there is one thing all of your gaming has failed to teach you: no good deed goes unpunished. Cheers to your offer to help others. I am sorry some of the kiddies don't see it that way (of course, you and I are of the same vintage).

I will field this one for you, OP. The answer is 42.

Which is why council is such a bad fight to do anything other than compare people on a given night. 9 out of 10 fights, melee fails to come close to 100% uptime. In fact, boss aoe for melee mitigates resource starvation for ranged. It is probably true generally that on most fights ranged out dpses melee because of uptime loss due to fight mechanics. I assume the rest of your post was tongue in cheek because it was just more blither, blather.

Over several different fights, with everyone using the same gear and talents and fighting the same council mini-boss, this is true for comparative dps within your guild, player to player (i.e. a more "talented/knowledgeable" player may out dps a lesser player even when the lesser player is using a class with better theoretical dps) .

Every class is broken in the wrong hands...

Since we are being anecdotal, without any facts, whatsoever, I will say that sniper/gunslinger has the best dps in the game.

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This is 100% true. We didn't need a gap closer with so much burst and, even then, we usually killed one person before dying ourselves. I was just wondering whether any melee class can kill a good sorc. Probably Sentinel/Marauder has the best chance.

Sounds like an ex-wow guild. SWTOR is not rift or wow. "Tank" class dps appears to be just fine, if you look at kill times (terrible I know). Without logs, there is no way to tell who does more dps. Anyone who says different is just guessing. They may give you a ton of blah, blah, blah in an attempt to show how they are calculating comparative dps, but trust me, it's just as accurate as "blah, blah, blah."

What kind of person are you? If you want a ton of badges, if topping damage or kills is important to you, then Vanguard might not be for you (though you can top meters in some situations). If you want to have a huge impact in every PvP game you play, even though the boards may not reflect it, then Vanguard is just awesome. They start strong. They end strong. They just ARE strong across the board. Vanguards and PTs are probably the best designed classes in the game.

Ok, I'll bite, what melee class can kill a sorc if OP cannot? All of the issues that have been identified effect all melee classes.

So many ex-wow and rift players stuck in that paradigm. All dps classes in Swtor are strong if played well. The issue of which is strongest remains to be seen. I have seen every class finish first in the 1v1boss race. So much of it depends on the player, rng and lag (as it should be). Truth be told, no one reaches the theoretical maximum dps, so it is irrelevant. Play the class you enjoy most, learn it well, gear your toon, and your dps will be good to great.

More fun would be my answer as well.

What....have....you....DONE? You never feed a Gremlin after midnight and you never, ever, ever, feed a troll an official response!!! Are you insane?

Yes, but that wasn't the question. PT is different for PvP than Merc and better.