MasterOfEnts Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 LFG kills online communities. Look no further than the QQ-Infested KIng of MMO's, WoW, for proof of my argument. Your argument is flawed. WoW is not socially dead. People play it every day with their friends. They play it happily and regularly. LFG tools don't kill online communities. They automate the tedious process of spamming for a group. Indeed, they simplify the game for those that want to play without socializing. Or just want a quick pick up group without having to coordinate a handful of friends. LFG lets players play the game their way. Which is a great thing that any service company ought to strive to accomplish. Give the players the tools they need to play the game the way they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jettemakaron Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 LFG kills online communities. Look no further than the QQ-Infested KIng of MMO's, WoW, for proof of my argument. Move-along-Folks. Notihng to see here. That statment is a myth, LFG tool did not kill the community. Can u tell me why u think it did that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigeye Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 (edited) World is what you make it and all that. I agree that LFG tools hinder community development although I have to admit that some sort of Guild search tool would be nice, even just to search guilds on my server - I'm more than happy to chat with people in-game but the lack of a guild-searching function is a bit annoying to me. This. LFG may divide opinions, but nobody can argue against better Guild tools. It's a bit useless if you're trying to recruit from a pool of thousands of players, in a zone instance containing...40. This isn't a new problem to MMOs, but surely that's all the more reason to nail it on the head. Edited December 27, 2011 by Pigeye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortoises Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 There can never be a cross server LFG tool. If they ever did anything like this, it would have to be a server only LFG tool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterOfEnts Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 There can never be a cross server LFG tool. If they ever did anything like this, it would have to be a server only LFG tool. They'll add the server-only LFD tool first. Then, when server populations dwindle, they'll make it cross-server. It's just a matter of time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woopya Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 (edited) I disagree. LFG tools help the solo player, not the guilded social player. If you are social and attempt to make friends, the LFG tool is not useful to you. If you want groups, dont wait until the time you need 1 to start trying to make friends. Build relationships along the way as you play the game. Not too different from life really... Edited December 27, 2011 by Woopya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dozerking Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 An LFG tool would GREATLY help for Flashpoints, so I'm not sitting around the Imperial Fleet spamming chat. I'd much rather be out questing/gathering while my group is being put together. Once in a group, than we can be social. Keep it Server wide only for the LFG tool and it's all good in the hood. The game does feel empty, really hoping they phase out the instancing. In a recent interview on Giantbomb, they said just that, that they could control the amount of instancing. Lets hope they get the servers straight in order to do this like other MMO's. Nothing worse than what's supposed to be an MMO, and yet there's people near a group quest and I can't see them because we're in different instances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigitalDigital Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 the game already feels dead, so when it really is dead it won't be noticeable lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vetorept Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 as the topic says- no lfg tool- no server forums- they not encouraging people to communicate and join with each other. Feeling this is more a single player game with a few multi-player features to use IF you want to- they seem to be encouraging the opposite of team play! Jumping up and down on your mount in Org and flaming each other on server forums does not a community make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seablade Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 i wouldnt mind a lfg tool as long as its on the same server no cross server BS and no teleporting to instance that just makes people lazy as hell that what killed WoW for me i always loved traveling to the instance makes me actually explore and there is no need for teleporting to instance sense there all in the same area anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papazooki Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 There is a community, sorry OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dozerking Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 LFG kills online communities. Look no further than the QQ-Infested KIng of MMO's, WoW, for proof of my argument. Move-along-Folks. Notihng to see here. Are you talking about that other game that is literally "massive" in size? And has a ridiculous amount of Guilds and social aspect to it? There's a TON of socializing in WoW, more than any other MMO in the Western Market. If you want to be social, join a guild and you don't need to concern yourself with an LFG. Too all you people that are complaining about TOR losing it's socializing with an LFG tool, you should be complaining about the ridiculous amount of instancing in the game that splits the playerbase in half or more on the same GD server, not to mention the empty feeling in the world. That's far more cause for concern that a tool that helps bring people together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigitalDigital Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Are you talking about that other game that is literally "massive" in size? And has a ridiculous amount of Guilds and social aspect to it? There's a TON of socializing in WoW, more than any other MMO in the Western Market. If you want to be social, join a guild and you don't need to concern yourself with an LFG. Too all you people that are complaining about TOR losing it's socializing with an LFG tool, you should be complaining about the ridiculous amount of instancing in the game that splits the playerbase in half or more on the same GD server, not to mention the empty feeling in the world. That's far more cause for concern that a tool that helps bring people together. seriously! the worlds feel empty! I can't say that SUCKS enough! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunofVich Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Wait so actually having to communicate to people that you are looking for a group makes this game a single player game? huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyeyexl Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 So no sit in a city with a LFG tool and actually having to look for a group is "players not communicating?" Troll on You basically have to sit at the fleet instead..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breeti Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Why is it we can't have an LFG tool cross server and auto matching and the people who don't want to use it and feel like it messes things up...don't use it? I understand the point of view, but seriously is either side any better than the other for trying to force thier opinion on everyone else. If you truly want a solution ask Bioware to put it to a vote of said community. Winner gets to gloat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aragarthiel Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 does anyone remember how wow was befor the LFG tool? it was BETTER... most people on the servers actually knew each other... i knew just about my entire server befor that came out.. i knew who was a ninja who was a good tank/healer ect ect ect... theres actually more communicating without a LFG tool since it MAKES people talk to find a group... not to mention if they takes the LFG thing from wow and make it cross server thats going to be even LESS communicating since the people arent even on your server and increase the ninja's... just like it did in wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinister-Sith Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Whatever's to be will be. I will stick by this game through thick and thin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breeti Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 does anyone remember how wow was befor the LFG tool? it was BETTER... most people on the servers actually knew each other... i knew just about my entire server befor that came out.. i knew who was a ninja who was a good tank/healer ect ect ect... theres actually more communicating without a LFG tool since it MAKES people talk to find a group... not to mention if they takes the LFG thing from wow and make it cross server thats going to be even LESS communicating since the people arent even on your server and increase the ninja's... just like it did in wow I remeber very well what it was like, endless sitting in cities wasting time spamming for a group not being able to leave because there was no other way to get one. Then suddenly you were able to queue, and go quest, accomplish things while you were waiting, it was amazing the freedom it gave people, especially dps. I got so many quests done, and explored so much more of the world it was just amazing to me. LFG wasn't just a convient way for me to find a group it was a great way for Blizzard to encourge me to play the game and experience the content they put in it for me and all the other players out there. Sorry but I don't log into a game in my liesure time to hold someone's virtual hand and get to know them. I want to get things done, if it's with friends fine, if it is with a random group of people just as well. My time is precious to me and being stuck in one place having to type out a request to find a group in a chat channel or hoping someone notices me in the current tool just doesn't serve my needs. And i'm willing to bet there are other out there just like me. Just as I would think there are those out there with your opinion as well. Thanks for your time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darka Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 I have seen many being proactive about LFG Seems to work using General Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yodimaster Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Oh god the Madness NO LFG TOOL! PLZ SOMEONE HELP! /Sarcasm Off.... lol LFG tool is /LFG (instance) in chat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobaFetaCheese Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Next time you're in game, TALK TO SOMEONE. Next time you're waiting for a boss to spawn, GROUP UP. The developers shouldn't have to incorporate ways to FORCE players to group up. The players should WANT to group up in the first place. Cross-server wibbily-wabbily stuff doesn't improve the game. Those people you randomly group up with don't remember you nor will you remember them the second the quest is over with. It's a massive world out there, go see it, go meet people. It's up to you to decide how to play the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navycrow Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Oh so you QQ about a tool that is in game and you dont know how to use it. here take the binky out of you mouth and let me help you type /who click lfg comment set your comment or form you party from there keeping this way and server only mean your server rep matter so you spamming /1 gets and complaining in /1 gets you ingored so you never get a party you can only blame your self not Bioware not others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolvus Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 as the topic says- no lfg tool- they not encouraging people to communicate and join with each other. I'll just quote your signature:"Huh?" I communicate much with people now that you have to find party inside your own server. Have many of them in friendlist too since it's not just some randoms from different servers. Feeling this is more a single player game with a few multi-player features to use IF you want to- they seem to be encouraging the opposite of team play! It's more MMO than WoW where you just sit in your capital and queue up for some instance (PvP/raid/dungeon) and chat in your guild channel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieuseru Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 I don't need/want a LFG tool. I DO want a server forum. How hard is that to make? Not hard at all. I'm kind of baffled that they didn't even have them. It really is a staple for forums and communicating between your server. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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