Rafaman Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 I don't really know if it is harsh, too harsh, or just right. But I bet that the next time an exploit is found and spreading like wildfire, it will make a few players pause and a few more to turn away from the exploit altogether. That, works in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUXs Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 All those that exploited are getting punished. The severity of the punishment is tailored to the severity of the transgression. Could there be anything more fair and reasonable? OK, I guess I misread your previous comment to mean they should all be punished equally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azudelphi Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 A warning is just that. It's a slap on the wrist telling you to be more careful next time there is a known exploit. No action is being taken against you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papazmurf Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 People exploit ruthlessly, BW does nothing, people complain. People exploit ruthlessly, BW does something, people complain. While this is true, I'd personally much rather have people complaining about BW doing something then not doing nothing. This a marked improvement compared to previous exploits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUXs Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 While this is true, I'd personally much rather have people complaining about BW doing something then not doing nothing. This a marked improvement compared to previous exploits. This is a good point as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zharik Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 People exploit ruthlessly, BW does nothing, people complain. People exploit ruthlessly, BW does something, people complain. Yes, you just discovered the nature of the internet... complainers will complain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XiamaraSimi Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Bioware: "You did something naughty, were going to keep our eye on you." Player: "OMG HOW DARE YOU, IM A SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE AND RULES DONT APPLY TO ME!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSeventhJedi Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Never sell, only DESTROY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elothan Posted July 1, 2015 Author Share Posted July 1, 2015 (edited) Never sell, only DESTROY! Yes, that is one of the pieces of advice I will take from this thread. And to a lot of you others that seems to think I did it with ill intent, yes, I understand it. You have nothing to go on but my word, so better assume the worst I guess I just needed to vent, and I should have reaøized theese forums are not a good place to do that, so for my part, this is now behind me, and I think I am just going to log back in and enjoy the game. I wish you all good times Edit: There have been alot of good points raised in this thread, and I guess I kinda ended up feeling that it was a fair enough rulig, even if it was accidental. Edited July 1, 2015 by Elothan Added info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CmdrShpd Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 But, they 'are' being treated equally in that all are being punished. The punishment, however, is fitted to the severity of the transgression. And that's both reasonable and fair. I think that's a good stance. However, I'm not at all sure that it's the same stance taken by the person I was replying to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nireos Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 I think that's a good stance. However, I'm not at all sure that it's the same stance taken by the person I was replying to. No that is exactly what I meant and I realize I should have been a little more clear on that. I equate it to the law....it doesn't matter if you steal a pack of gum or brand new 4k tv, either way you stole. Both case, the person should be punished; but the punishment should fit the crime. And I believe that is what has occurred here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoverFist Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 I know and agree that one chair seems silly to get a warning over, but Bioware had to draw the line somewhere. I'm just glad they finally drew one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johncenaultimate Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 People exploit ruthlessly, BW does nothing, people complain. People exploit ruthlessly, BW does something, people complain. once again, you are absolutely correct. well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quraswren Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 No that is exactly what I meant and I realize I should have been a little more clear on that. I equate it to the law....it doesn't matter if you steal a pack of gum or brand new 4k tv, either way you stole. Both case, the person should be punished; but the punishment should fit the crime. And I believe that is what has occurred here. Agreed. Punishment fit the OP's crime. Not much else to be worried about really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theSCARAYone Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 It's not harsh at all. Even if you "accidentally" sold them back, there was a very plain and simple warning every single time you launched the launcher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sorwen Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 (edited) I have to disagree with some. This doesn't show the punishment fits the crime because if a mistake happens again he get banned just like a person that totally exploits that bug. It also means that he is as punished as anyone that exploited more, but not enough to get banned. The closest real world example would be like saying that he bought a stolen CD* this time and next time no matter if it is a stolen CD or he commits mass murder he get the death penalty. *Smallest punishable crime I could think of you could do inadvertently. Edited July 1, 2015 by Sorwen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shwarzchild Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 (edited) I have to disagree with some. This doesn't show the punishment fits the crime because if a mistake happens again he get banned just like a person that totally exploits that bug. It also means that he is as punished as anyone that exploited more, but not enough to get banned. The closest real world example would be like saying that he bought a stolen CD* this time and next time no matter if it is a stolen CD or he commits mass murder he get the death penalty. *Smallest punishable crime I could think of you could do inadvertently. No....what's been proven is that if someone made a mistake they got a warning which is the farthest thing from a ban possible. edit: And future action is not guaranteed by any stretch of the imagination. Just because he/she got a warning now doesn't mean that he's guaranteed to receive a ban if there is a future transgression. Overall though, if anyone who participated in this exlpoit, or any exploit really, participates in each and every new exploit that comes around they can't really use the accidental card anymore since evidence shows a trend to the contrary. Edited July 1, 2015 by Shwarzchild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUXs Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 No....what's been proven is that if someone made a mistake they got a warning which is the farthest thing from a ban possible. Agreed...let's not overreact to warnings...they aren't punishments. However...if they do get punished, that's another matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theeko Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Agreed...let's not overreact to warnings...they aren't punishments. However...if they do get punished, that's another matter. Yeah I know accidents happen but it clearly stated it in the launcher and if you didn't read it then its your fault for not being cautious about only buying 50 tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmwfte Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Never sell, only DESTROY! If there's not a chair smashing scene and/or mission in KotFE, I'm going to be very disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jadescythe Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 I have to disagree with some. This doesn't show the punishment fits the crime because if a mistake happens again he get banned just like a person that totally exploits that bug. It also means that he is as punished as anyone that exploited more, but not enough to get banned. The closest real world example would be like saying that he bought a stolen CD* this time and next time no matter if it is a stolen CD or he commits mass murder he get the death penalty. *Smallest punishable crime I could think of you could do inadvertently. A consistent history of "accidentally" being a part of exploiting in minor ways is a good excuse for taking advantage as much as possible without getting punished. If this isn't a description of you, then you shouldn't have to worry as you won't participate in future exploits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUXs Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Yeah I know accidents happen but it clearly stated it in the launcher and if you didn't read it then its your fault for not being cautious about only buying 50 tbh. I didn't even read the launcher warning, I knew from the forums what was going on. Accident or not, Bioware is clever enough to determine who exploited and who didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kane_Ren Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Because the OP wanted his 1 credit back soooo bad? A warning is very much deserved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JumperPenn Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 I think it should be clear who abused this and who didn't or did to a small degree a handful say 10-20 resells let it slide, those who did it systematically to show they have no life real warning with the doom and gloom of "if ya do it again we are gonna go medieval on your account;'. Now if the 'warning' is just BS and next time they'll look at what actually happened then it doesn't matter but if they are counting this as a 'strike' in some mandatory minimum style banning/punishment then the handful of exploits is being overreacted to. I didn't even know about this, I may have seen a thing about it in the launcher I honestly don't know, my first real notice of this was the post about the 'exploit' from the devs. Still haven't gone to collect my 50 or whatever the limit is of this item. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JourrnoRush Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 They should clearly see who was making a profit and who did it accidentally. I personally think they should ban everyone who was trying to make millions off of it, I mean permanently too. For starters, who knows if they laundered it on the GTN or if people had their stuff bought with laundered money. Some have already posted how certain things have jumped in price. These players need to be removed from game permanently imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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