I'm sure details are coming but what we should all expect is that anything you have now with be relatively worthless once the new expansion launches. Gear will quickly be useless for the most part. Unassembled parts and some other tokens will get a less than amazing trade in value like we have seen before that will give just the smallest boost to something new. I'm curious if they will use the galactic command which they had finally got working decently to where you could actually play the way you wanted and get gear or will biwoare fall back to the OPS/PVP or die mentality. So many things that could screw this new gearing thing up and it took forever to get galactic command to something worth playing butI haven't forgotten just how bad galactic command was when it first launched so a new gear system has me worried.

I'm worried bioware wont get it even close to right as far as balance goes. Combined with how some classes just have a ton of things to mash already. I like the idea mentioned above about taking a lower level ability and replacing it at higher level. Thats a good start and a great idea.

Like how biwoare setup swtor, you can have the possibility of his stuff. You have to do a large number of errands or chores for the OP. Lets call them missions for the fun of it. After all those "missions" you will given a random chance at something the OP has. The odds of anything good are extremely slim and the majority of things you get will be pretty much garbage and you will never know when the OP changes the odds to make it even harder for you because he can do it behind the scenes and never tell you anything but hey. You had a chance right? Now, for that first chore, I mean mission you got to do...... However, back to the OP. I feel your pain when it comes to swtor.

BioWare was foolish enough to bring back Malgus, I have no doubt anyone we supposedly “killed” they would have no problem bringing back Just because. She may not be as gone as some think.

Like others. No, not really. Just no reason to check it. Not like you're going to miss anything big even if you skip weeks or months at a time.

That was awesome and dead on given the situation. I'll be watching more of him. I wouldn't be shocked at all to find out that it was a screen shot released by bioware or ea and not actually leaked so they could get a feel on numbers. Heel vs babyface called it right on the dot.

My vague answer is, "Way to many given the mediocre content we keep getting combined with so many bugs."

bioware has tried to optimize things but truthfully, it's still uses a highly modified hero engine and it's not been good since day one release. it's caused more trouble than it was ever worth in various ways through the years. As long as this game runs the hero engine, lower your expectations.

It just doesn't make sense. One of the worst parts is when Lana tells you that her and theron have a way of communicating that no one but them knows. Their own made up way to communicating that no one would have any basis or previous knowledge in how to decipher. Then we have to go through a ton of garbage story just to hear theron whine about not being able to say anything because he would be found out and then showed the bad guys everywhere they needed to go while having the perfect way of communicating but did little to nothing to actually do it.. It was just rough to play and I hope he's really dead given his poor writing.

Malgus, that washed up has been died to me in multiple ways back when the game had at least a better story. Probably why bioware showed no creative ability when they brought that joke of a character back. Hoping gamrs would remember a better time in swtor and not what is happenng right now As if Malgus was the uncreative way to go. In what is yet another terrible story move, we get agriculture and a copied and recolored planet and on old worthless villain. bioware has just been washed up mess since anything named Kot** and after with barely anything hitting a good mark. The best thing we recently got was the hunt for the new datacrons. The rest was forgettable and that includes the story at the very to of that pile. I agree with you wholeheartedly, the story has been half-arsed for a while. It's a good thing the original class stories still hold up because it's a shame what they have going on now.

I had high hopes for it after hearing bioware talk so much about it but yes. It was fairly boring except the new datacron hunt. That one bit I found entertaining. The story was short and terribly uninspiring and that big reveal was about as uncreative as a story writer / game writer can get. Oh lets reuse that guy gamers killed in a flash point years ago. Not only did they kill him and blow up a space station but they killed him in multiple ways to achieve that goal and still blew up his space station. So reusing him, no matter how they want to do it is some pretty bad low hanging fruit writing. Such potential wasted on rehash villains, weak story and a useless gear grind for a Nightmare OPS few care to do and it's not because they don't like OPS. Few care for a NM OPS. So all that combined with the all the bugs and yea, boring is just one of the things that happened playing it.

Agreed I doubt many will complain about having nothing to do. The complaint will be it not worth doing.

After playing 5.10. 6.0 wont happen soon enough.

They will be on the board just outside the main quest hub once the story is done IIRC.

Sorry but I can't say I agree. I found it to be a bit lacking in the creativity department.. Some Spoilers ahead. So No, I can't say that story was all that interesting. I enjoyed the planet. A bit to much copy and paste from Alderaan and korriban with some pallet change but over all I liked the planet but the story lacked creativity. In trying to push the players back to some galactic war. bioware story had no "punch" to it for me.

I would ask you for your stuff but I'd be afraid you would do it like bioware and make me run chores that just are not that fun and then only give me a random chance at something interesting weighted to make sure most of what you gave me was garbage. So, have a good one is about all I can muster. Most understand why you are leaving.

Sadly, at the moment I'm not entirely sure. I'm a big reader of forbidden things and can't say that was interesting. I am glad they are getting back to Rep VS emp because I hope they can write it better but I'm not sold on the transition story getting us there so it's a weird place to be. I was hopeful for the patch but it wasn't all that impressive or at least nothing I saw to look forward to. A new grind for rep and gear in a daily zone doesn't scream " look forward to" in my eyes given it's design from the PTR so hopefully what they changed will be more interesting when it actually comes around. So for now, I keep reading what bioware puts out hoping they will have something thats a bit more tantalizing.

Lets put it this way. Any expansion is a long way off. You can tell that buy what is about to come out in December. A new tier of gear to grind as well as a new rep grind. They would not put out tier 5 gear and in 3 months drop an expansion that makes it all useless. They have added the rep grind in as nothing more than busy work and especially so if it's anything like Iokath as that was about as worthless as it could get. At least the other reps there was benefits to doing them. So, with Tier 5 coming and how it's designed, combined with what I said above, 6.0 is a long way off. I wouldn't expect to see it for 6+ months and thats a conservative estimate. That a fair guess I think or at least around the Oct-Dec time frame.

I don't. I take the lowest but I don't ignore anyone. If it save me 1 credit or 10 million. I take the lowest but I'm not ignoring anyone because of an undercut.

How much longer can the Outlander's story go on.....? I think you are seeing the start of their end to that terrible story arc that never got to a solid ending because it seems not enough cared for it or the way it was released. Beginning of the end so to speak.

I enjoy keeping up with rumors. I just hope bioware is trolling the players somehow because man the massive lacking in creativity/writing to actually push that rumor is monumental. It has to be a joke to get people stirred up.

I'm starting to think given the more recent terrible rumors there is no reason Darth Marr shouldn't be a companion.

The only thing that has really held up over the years in swtor IMHO are the class stories. I'd like to see that kind of design return to the game.

Hate is much to strong a word for it but I disliked the majority of KOTFE or KOTET and what came after them. Might have been 2 or 3 chapters that were decent but the rest were so bad I could only pull myself to run through it twice in total. Once Rep. and once Emp. Two and done given how terrible the wronging was combined with how bad the majority of the chapter designs were even down to how the mobs spawned. Just terrible. I hope soemthing better is coming but sadly the same people who did KOTFE or KOTET and the content after those are also the ones doing this back to Emp. vs Rep and I expect it to be just as terrible story writing given rumors.

Agreed. If I have to go back to that old garbage bickering in one of bioware less than stellar forced options like we have seen then It's highly likely my spacebar will be worn out in my one pass-though.