SeraphAnubis Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Is anybody else getting in-game emails from gold spammers advertising their credit-selling websites? I've gotten like 5 already, each email with 1 credit attached as a "gift". I report each one as spam. Just wondering if anybody is getting them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djiini Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Hey, a free credit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImmortalLowlife Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Yup, I've had one every time I logged on. I just report em and keep on pushing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XiamaraSimi Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Its especially annoying when you have 16 characters that log in to several each Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midianlord Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Constantly, me. Mind you, I have like 25+ characters, but I've long since stopped reporting them, as I know all too well that they'll do absolutely nothing about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilsonstone Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Constantly, me. Mind you, I have like 25+ characters, but I've long since stopped reporting them, as I know all too well that they'll do absolutely nothing about it. I'm less angry at the spammer or the company than I am at the noodle heads that must buy the stuff. Because someone has to be doing it or the spammers wouldn't bother. Anyone buying pretend money from spammers for a computer game is beyond lame and should probably be sterilized for the good of the gene pool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undiess Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 PoT5 has had the same spammers on gen fleet ALL DAY. I think Bioware is unable to keep up with issues on servers. I have reported for spam and ignored them on each of my 8 characters on imperial side and they still are there. I know I cannot be the only one reporting these spammers, so it's sad to seem them still there as it shows that over 12 hours no GM has bothered to do anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSchuyler Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 There is a book by Neal Stephenson called "reamde" that details the lives of these gold sellers. It shows how just a few bites can lead to serious profit and "profit" to us is not what it means to the Chinese. Highly recommended if you can tear your self away from the computer screen for a few hours. Neal really knows his stuff and is computer literate. It may give you some insight into this sub-culture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tolunart Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 PoT5 has had the same spammers on gen fleet ALL DAY. I think Bioware is unable to keep up with issues on servers. I have reported for spam and ignored them on each of my 8 characters on imperial side and they still are there. I know I cannot be the only one reporting these spammers, so it's sad to seem them still there as it shows that over 12 hours no GM has bothered to do anything. That's not how it works. RMT spammers have dozens, even hundreds of throwaway accounts, often bought with stolen credit cards. Instead of playing whac-a-mole as each new account is activated, it's more efficient to track their active accounts and find other accounts bought with the same card or accounts that send and receive game currency and take out a big chunk of the spammer's business at once. This isn't McD's, you don't get service in 90 seconds or less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undiess Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 (edited) This isn't McD's, you don't get service in 90 seconds or less. how about 12 hours? thats how long two accounts on PoT5 Imperial side have been going, non stop. Edited January 11, 2015 by undiess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tolunart Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 (edited) how about 12 hours? thats how long two accounts on PoT5 Imperial side have been going, non stop. Again, no. It doesn't work like that. Edited January 11, 2015 by Tolunart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undiess Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Again, no. It doesn't work like that. You're right. If they banned them right away, the account information is just gone. there's no way they could record that after ban and then find other similar accounts. they must have to keep them open. This is totally like a drug cartel where if you kill a middle man you won't get the information to get the big bad guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icykill_ Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 5 days... Same spammers still not banned... Anybody at Bio paying attention to the report spammer reports Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunafox Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Yes, and I despise them. I don't want their stupid hacked up money touching my legit money, so I delete all their crappy mail. And when I see them yapping on chats, I report and block them every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mornyr Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Sometimes they don't even send the one credit. So rude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tolunart Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 You're right. If they banned them right away, the account information is just gone. there's no way they could record that after ban and then find other similar accounts. they must have to keep them open. This is totally like a drug cartel where if you kill a middle man you won't get the information to get the big bad guy. More like sending a cockroach back to the nest with poisoned bait instead of stomping on them one by one. That's how it works and whining about it isn't going to make it happen any faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psandak Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Yes, I too get those mail messages consistently. I do not even take the 1 credit, I report the message as spam and move on. I agree with wilsonstone that I find the money buyers more the problem than the spammers; if the demand went away then the supply would stop. That being said, in my experience spammers being present has one good aspect...the spammers would not be here at all if the game was not doing well. As to stopping them, there is no way to stop them. Ban an account, and that spammer will create a new account. Tracking IPs, not worth the time for two reasons: the spammers are probably hiding behind proxies (bouncing themselves all around the world to remain anonymous), and even if they could be traced back to their original IP, they can change that IP nearly at will.Bring legal action against the sites is not feasible because they probably all originate outside the US. Personally, I treat spammers as white noise - ever present but ignored. And I wish more of us would take that attitude rather than railing against the publisher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grayseven Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 I've noticed something. With 22 characters on Shadowlands I was surprised that only certain characters got the email spam while others did not. I have some Logan's Run lowbie PvP toons of both factions, some of who got the mail and some who didn't. Same for my level 55-60 toons. The common denominator among the toons that got mail were that they listed something for sale on the GTN. I often use different toons for different sales types in order to better track demand and some toons don't list anything at all. Just an observation, curious if anyone else is seeing this or if it's just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorldSmasher Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Some of my idle toons get the spam mail. I just log on to them cause my other toons send stuff to them, and I have to put that stuff in storage, but there it is... the spam mail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eythiofr Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 I switched from reporting those in game mails from spam to harassment. I would hope that by doing so, a slightly more serious flag is thrown on the account in question. I don't expect that it would fix the problem but it might make accounts that send mails less profitable for gold sellers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurin Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 It's pretty obvious to me, that whomever it is that works at BioWare that is responsible for banning the gold spammers and botters....they do not work over the weekend. The botters and gold spammers know this just as much as the legit players, and so every Saturday and Sunday we see the same ones all day long. Then "magically" Monday they go away. Maybe, just maybe, BioWare could employ some low paid, part time, eager intern to ban the botters on the weekends? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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