Aehgo Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Well if you played a few arenas,scrapped your way to 1500 rating(isn't it just 400 more then your starting rating?),you get the same rewards as the people topping the leaderboard:D.I have played an arena since december I think and I'm going to get the best rewards,same rewards that people playing consistantly and winning are gonna get. Ranked in swtor didn't start off well but this is just the cherry on top.Its not competitive,it has a decreasing player base by the week and now you give people participation awards and dont reward the people actively playing with something better? Season 1 has been more dissapointing then I ever thought it could be.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evolixe Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 100 rating higher than starting rating. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cycao Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 100 rating higher than starting rating. Lol. I thought the starting rating was 1k, is it really 1400? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoom_VI Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 (edited) I thought the starting rating was 1k, is it really 1400? no its 1k. My juggernaut had 1433 after winning her first mine matches but losing the tenth. My VG started at just barely 1100 after having a losing half of her first ten matches. (solo queue numbers) Edited February 19, 2014 by Zoom_VI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evolixe Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 I thought the starting rating was 1k, is it really 1400? If you win pretty much everything yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASLCHYRAX Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 (edited) Thanks BioWare for spitting in all of those PvPers faces that have been working hard towards a decent rating. There are a Copper/Silver/Gold Tier for a reason, no? How is 1500 Rating the top? I understand that you have give something to the casual clickers too but why can't you make those of us that tried extra hard feel a bit appreciated too. You're just *********** disappointing!! Edited February 20, 2014 by ASLCHYRAX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EzioMessi Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Bioware already said. Less than 2.5% of the Leaderboard is above 1500 rating. What's the big deal? It's not like every random dude pops into Arenas with 1500 rating. Most people I know are at around 1300 and staying there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evolixe Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Bioware already said. Less than 2.5% of the Leaderboard is above 1500 rating. What's the big deal? It's not like every random dude pops into Arenas with 1500 rating. Most people I know are at around 1300 and staying there. That is just sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maudril Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 That is just sad. I know that feeling, I was that way with Mass Effect 3's multiplayer, being at the top means knowing a lot of people at the top... you start to pity those on the lower tiers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aehgo Posted February 20, 2014 Author Share Posted February 20, 2014 Isn't the point in ranked,proving your the best and getting vanity **** for it . This on the other hand feels like a 'special' competition,kinda a kids race in school, 'Oh well you all were so fast,so everybody gets a trophy!!YAY!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashogy_reborn Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 The way the Tiers are broken down is done properly IMO. The top 5% is Tier 1. I think the rewards are probably the most well done part of Ranked Arenas to date (tho the bar was set pretty low). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EzioMessi Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 The way the Tiers are broken down is done properly IMO. The top 5% is Tier 1. I think the rewards are probably the most well done part of Ranked Arenas to date (tho the bar was set pretty low). This ^^' That is just sad. Believe me, when Ranked pops as little as it does on our server, even playing the first 10 matches you need for your rating is considered a bloody miracle for those of us who are not on during the organized Ranked sessions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediMasterSLC Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Starting rating is 1200, look up the Elo ranking system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxmob Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Isn't the point in ranked,proving your the best and getting vanity **** for it . This on the other hand feels like a 'special' competition,kinda a kids race in school, 'Oh well you all were so fast,so everybody gets a trophy!!YAY!!" the point of ranked, from my perspective, is an actual matchmaking system that attempts to pit teams with the same roles and similar ratings. the prizes are meh. vanity as you say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashogy_reborn Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 the point of ranked, from my perspective, is an actual matchmaking system that attempts to pit teams with the same roles and similar ratings. the prizes are meh. vanity as you say. The rewards for PvP should always be vanity. If not you create a gear gap, which results in an far less competitive environment. Not that this environment is all that competitive, but you get the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxmob Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 The rewards for PvP should always be vanity. If not you create a gear gap, which results in an far less competitive environment. Not that this environment is all that competitive, but you get the point. mhm. I wasn't arguing against them. I just think the existence of an actual matchmaking system is far more appealing. could give 2 ***** about a different color pet. cool? yeah. but worthless and not a reason to compete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DkSharktooth Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 (edited) Suggested Tier System: --------------------------------------------------------- Thanks For Participating Rewards Ratings: --------------------------------------------------------- Tier 6 - Rating 1-999 Tier 5 - Rating 1000-1249 Tier 4 - Rating 1250-1499 --------------------------------------------------------- Actual Rewards Tiers: --------------------------------------------------------- Tier 3 - Rating 1500-1749 Tier 2 - Rating 1750-1999 Tier 1 - Rating 2000-2500 Elite Tier - 2501+ **Additional Titles for top players of each class per server should be a possibility **Current system is unfair to higher rated players who put alot of time and effort being grouped with low rated 1500 rewards who barely did anything. I don't see how Bioware remotely thinks this is fair. Edited February 20, 2014 by DkSharktooth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegendaryQuan Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 (edited) Rank one for each class on each server (for both solo and group) should get something. Whether it be a title or piece of armor or weapor or whatever...A lot of people are well over 1500 and have nothing to work towards now that the tiers have been announced. Rank ones on the leaderboards should get something. (other than that i think its fine. but without that i think its very disappointing and bad) Edited February 20, 2014 by LegendaryQuan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisweaver Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 The bronze , silver , gold brackets were created in preparation for a larger amount of people making it into those brackets. Unfortunately for a multitude of reasons not as many people made it into those brackets. After testing the populations ratings a new tier system was created. For those people that have received 1600 + brackets congrats! You now have the bragging rights to say you made it to the top brackets. You are more than likely acknowledged to have considerable experience in arenas and are an asset to your teammates. With the actual end of season 1 and the release of legitimate rewards we can expect more participation from people. If and when these frequent pops become more consistent I expect to see even larger numbers I the + 1500 rating range. When this happens the Devs will do their testing again near the end of season 2 and adjust the tiers accordingly. That being said I am hoping on of my characters will make it too 1500 in time. I'm at 1448 on my sorc but it is very unforgiving when teamed up with people who are not correctly geared or to do not know how to play their class in an arena environment. I also believe that a rating system is very dangerous and encourages tactics that break the queuing system (PT dps "tank") letting those players get ratings that they do not quite deserve. But this happens in most games that have leaderbourds so ill manage without complaining too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuntsmanBaener Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 The bronze , silver , gold brackets were created in preparation for a larger amount of people making it into those brackets. Unfortunately for a multitude of reasons not as many people made it into those brackets. After testing the populations ratings a new tier system was created. For those people that have received 1600 + brackets congrats! You now have the bragging rights to say you made it to the top brackets. You are more than likely acknowledged to have considerable experience in arenas and are an asset to your teammates. With the actual end of season 1 and the release of legitimate rewards we can expect more participation from people. If and when these frequent pops become more consistent I expect to see even larger numbers I the + 1500 rating range. When this happens the Devs will do their testing again near the end of season 2 and adjust the tiers accordingly. That being said I am hoping on of my characters will make it too 1500 in time. I'm at 1448 on my sorc but it is very unforgiving when teamed up with people who are not correctly geared or to do not know how to play their class in an arena environment. I also believe that a rating system is very dangerous and encourages tactics that break the queuing system (PT dps "tank") letting those players get ratings that they do not quite deserve. But this happens in most games that have leaderbourds so ill manage without complaining too much. You mean, "...because most people playing this game are completely awful, this being the single and only reason..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashogy_reborn Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 You mean, "...because most people playing this game are completely awful, this being the single and only reason..." Youre really quite butthurt about this arent you........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaimelion Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 You mean, "...because most people playing this game are completely awful, this being the single and only reason..." The wisest words I heard in a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckeyduckey Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Suggested Tier System: --------------------------------------------------------- Thanks For Participating Rewards Ratings: --------------------------------------------------------- Tier 6 - Rating 1-999 Tier 5 - Rating 1000-1249 Tier 4 - Rating 1250-1499 --------------------------------------------------------- Actual Rewards Tiers: --------------------------------------------------------- Tier 3 - Rating 1500-1749 Tier 2 - Rating 1750-1999 Tier 1 - Rating 2000-2500 Elite Tier - 2501+ **Additional Titles for top players of each class per server should be a possibility **Current system is unfair to higher rated players who put alot of time and effort being grouped with low rated 1500 rewards who barely did anything. I don't see how Bioware remotely thinks this is fair. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
befear Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 That is just sad. Its really not bioware's fault. Its more of the community for setting the bar low Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshlaBoga Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 You mean, "...because most people playing this game are completely awful, this being the single and only reason..." It's not even a PvP thing. I don't use LFG anymore. Some of the people I've met in LFG make me wonder how they were even able to install SWTOR on their computer. Dear God, the stuff I've in GF flashpoints.... Sorcs with Strength gear, dps who que as a tank because "tanks do the most damage" and players who DON'T KNOW HOW TO TURN NUMLOCK OFF AND KEEP RUNNING THE WHOLE TIME. The horror, the the horror. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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