gofortheko Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 There is enough CC and stuns in the game to last several lifetimes. To allow this cheap and easy item to be used in pvp is a joke and it needs to be taken out. If I cant use my Adrenals from biochem in pvp, then no one should be able to use these items either. PS I got two 400 cybertechs and can mass produce them if I saw fit, but I think its really stupid and it ruins gameplay for me and a lot of people I know. Nix it already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huehuebrbr Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 remove the stims too should be only about warzone medpac and adrenal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyana Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 I agree! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squidkidz Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 (edited) Be more resourceful, start using them. And get rid of stims?? Really? Get a guildmate to make you the exotech ones, their a lot easier to get than people think and the exotechs are stronger than the rakata. Edited September 20, 2012 by Squidkidz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anwg Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 (edited) There's no other purpose to those grenades aside form PvP, so if you make them unusable in PvP, you might as well just remove them entirely. But seriously, it's not like you can spam them with their 180 seconds shared cool down, and all grenades except the electro-stun ones can be dispelled. Edited September 20, 2012 by anwg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huehuebrbr Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 (edited) who said anything about being easy/hard? it's just boring i have the rakata reusables ones and a huge amount of materials to make exotech stims till the end of times i still don't like it, should be pve only. if you even consider removing the nades you need to remove stims too since it would be another buff to biochem Edited September 20, 2012 by huehuebrbr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nDjiin Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 How about they just remove rakata reusable items from wz's - personally I dont agree with removing anything from WZ's but it does seem the lesser of 2 evils. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ssfbistimg Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 There is enough CC and stuns in the game to last several lifetimes. To allow this cheap and easy item to be used in pvp is a joke and it needs to be taken out. If I cant use my Adrenals from biochem in pvp, then no one should be able to use these items either. PS I got two 400 cybertechs and can mass produce them if I saw fit, but I think its really stupid and it ruins gameplay for me and a lot of people I know. Nix it already. it needs to say, tho personally I prefer the sludge grenade especially in voidstar hallways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jherad Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 How about they just remove rakata reusable items from wz's - personally I dont agree with removing anything from WZ's but it does seem the lesser of 2 evils. The day I have to grind dailies or looks for mats just so that I can buy or make the non-reusable stims to remain competitive in PvP is the day I'm done with this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vedano Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 For some people without cc its a must to have. For example, guardians have some cc, but not near the amount of others. The grenades are a huge help to us. If Bioware takes their head out of their collective *****es and makes root part of the resolve immunity then the grenades wont even be an issue, but based on the sheer fact that an organized team can keep someone rooted indefinitely with no DR on it is completely and utterly STUPID AS HELL! Why oh why BW is root not on the resolve immunity table? Please put it on ASAP. Kthx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ssfbistimg Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 For some people without cc its a must to have. For example, guardians have some cc, but not near the amount of others. The grenades are a huge help to us. If Bioware takes their head out of their collective *****es and makes root part of the resolve immunity then the grenades wont even be an issue, but based on the sheer fact that an organized team can keep someone rooted indefinitely with no DR on it is completely and utterly STUPID AS HELL! Why oh why BW is root not on the resolve immunity table? Please put it on ASAP. Kthx yes i agree. plus roots are just on way to short of cooldown. If you dont want them on the resolve system then they should be on as long as a cooldown as stuns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vedano Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 yes i agree. plus roots are just on way to short of cooldown. If you dont want them on the resolve system then they should be on as long as a cooldown as stuns. Totally totally agree! Ssfbistimg For BW President 2012, kthx BW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTomorrow Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Totally totally agree! Ssfbistimg For BW President 2012, kthx BW. I hate to hurt your feelings, but Roots will never be part of resolve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ssfbistimg Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 I hate to hurt your feelings, but Roots will never be part of resolve we know this, but they still are on way to short of a cooldown. 2 people can permanently root you. sure you might be able to attack but being a sage/sorcerer being rooted is basically death. And range can do same to melee. just keep them rooted and they are dead. Id rather be stunned atleast I know im going to eventually be immune to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FourTwent Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 There is enough CC and stuns in the game to last several lifetimes. To allow this cheap and easy item to be used in pvp is a joke and it needs to be taken out. If I cant use my Adrenals from biochem in pvp, then no one should be able to use these items either. PS I got two 400 cybertechs and can mass produce them if I saw fit, but I think its really stupid and it ruins gameplay for me and a lot of people I know. Nix it already. how does it ruin gameplay? its very easy to see that it adds another element on top of the gameplay, you know, mixes it up. prevents it from being a snooze fest. I mean seriously, lets just take all warzones out. have one put with no pillars no obstacles, just one node, and the first person to cap it, wins. then we can take out all the classes except for one, make everyone roll that one class and have no gear too. wow, that sounds like the most interesting and diverse game ever right? to be honest, it just sounds like you're butthurt from SMARTER players actually utilizing the tools available. nothing to see here, move along Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coturnix Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Theres everyday some new thread about removing whatever from PVP. Remove pulls, leaps, adrenals, force speed and now grenades... Do you people really want to make PVP pure DPS fight without any utility, which making it so big fun? Do you wanna remove all stuff, which can give to one team tactical advantage, if used properly? Yes remove grenades, but then remove aoe cc from all classes, as it is unfair advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ameepa Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Theres everyday some new thread about removing whatever from PVP. Remove pulls, leaps, adrenals, force speed and now grenades... Do you people really want to make PVP pure DPS fight without any utility, which making it so big fun? Do you wanna remove all stuff, which can give to one team tactical advantage, if used properly? Yes remove grenades, but then remove aoe cc from all classes, as it is unfair advantage. While we're at it, let's remove also stealth, every ability that has over 10 m range, dots, snares, knockbacks, traps from huttball map and marauders. They all give unfair advantage! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coturnix Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 and marauders. ! This... Made my day. Thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-aTreD Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Remove PvP from WZs!! Let's just have tea parties and pillow fights! /sarcasm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daikeru Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 I only want these to respect Resolve as they should, unless I'm misunderstanding the effect of these items. If so I got reading to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daikeru Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 we know this, but they still are on way to short of a cooldown. 2 people can permanently root you. sure you might be able to attack but being a sage/sorcerer being rooted is basically death. And range can do same to melee. just keep them rooted and they are dead. Id rather be stunned atleast I know im going to eventually be immune to it. Range can do the same to melee, but roots are the death of sage/sorcerer ... Can you clarify this? Also, Bioware has stated that they believe roots to be part of the kite-kiting mechanics (they probably called it something similar, but I can't recall exactly what they called it). A root doesn't impede the player's ability to use their skills (well ... except Force Leaps). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyemin Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 What about you stop crying about the things you can't handle becouse you're just not good enough instead of complaining and ruinning the game?! There is a serious problem if Bioware keeps reading and believing that these cry babys are the majority of gamers and take to consideration their whinnings. Not even adrenal should ever been taken from the warzones. PVP is just like PVE, instead of having a CPU controled enemy, you have a human one. If you lose, you have to improve your game, workarounds won't work as in PVE, you won't be able to skip fights, so if you're not good enough, you're not good enough. Play and learn to play by experiencing defeat instead of quitting warzones, learn the joy of starting by losing the warzone and turn the tables around by effort, commitement, organization and knowledge. Return adrenals to Warzones, give us PVP players all the same things PVE players have, and may the best one win. Stop whinning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ameepa Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 What about you stop crying about the things you can't handle becouse you're just not good enough instead of complaining and ruinning the game?! There is a serious problem if Bioware keeps reading and believing that these cry babys are the majority of gamers and take to consideration their whinnings. Not even adrenal should ever been taken from the warzones. PVP is just like PVE, instead of having a CPU controled enemy, you have a human one. If you lose, you have to improve your game, workarounds won't work as in PVE, you won't be able to skip fights, so if you're not good enough, you're not good enough. Play and learn to play by experiencing defeat instead of quitting warzones, learn the joy of starting by losing the warzone and turn the tables around by effort, commitement, organization and knowledge. Return adrenals to Warzones, give us PVP players all the same things PVE players have, and may the best one win. Stop whinning. What, haven't you heard that PvP is balanced only when you win against everyone 1v1 and win 100% of warzones? In recruit gear. Playing a tank specced scoundrel. Without mouse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulzii Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 (edited) they just need to make the grenades knockdown the same as the other knockdowns. The 3 second 'laying on the ground thing' has got to go. Change it like they changed the other knock downs, to 1.5 seconds. with all the ccs flying around, they really need to lower the cc-breaker each class gets to 1 minute. Also wouldnt hurt to limit ALL cc stun/fear durations to 4 seconds. That 6-second Aoe a few classes get is pretty stupid. And for god sakes, put sleep dart and mind trap on a cooldown or change the duration to 4 seconds... Edited September 20, 2012 by mulzii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotland Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 (edited) For some people without cc its a must to have. For example, guardians have some cc, but not near the amount of others. The grenades are a huge help to us. If Bioware takes their head out of their collective *****es and makes root part of the resolve immunity then the grenades wont even be an issue, but based on the sheer fact that an organized team can keep someone rooted indefinitely with no DR on it is completely and utterly STUPID AS HELL! Why oh why BW is root not on the resolve immunity table? Please put it on ASAP. Kthx No. L2play, get them cleansed. To be quite fair, if you are crying about roots/snare not affecting resolve then you srsly need to learn to play, every game ive played has never had DR's for snares/roots. Changing that in this game will only benefit Pug players, it will not benefit SPvp at all. Every root and snare in this game can be cleansed by multiple classes. The classes in this game still have some of the best mobility ive seen in any game, if you cant work you're way around Snare or Roots and need to cry to have have them controlled even more than they already are D: then you srsly need to go play GA or something like that Edited September 20, 2012 by Scotland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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