There are good and bad players in all guilds, its just the way it is. Some guilds bring an aura of invincibility in regs, because they ARE good players, but they also have the absolute ideal pvp team. That was my whole entire point. Playing objectives doesnt make you a good player, I have seen a lot of people play objectives but be bad at it.
For example being in civil war, and you and your team are at grass, win the power struggle; but end up with 5 6 players vs 1, at this point, mid is already being taken, because youre fighting only one player and the people you just beat smoked your defenders. Instead of pulling half of the players and running mid once **** settles and let the rest clean up, people just wait, lose mid then the cycle begins again. So there is a difference between playing objectives, and playing them correctly.
In any event, there are top teams in pvp, and I have faced them. I have also faced players who seemed invincible on those teams, seem pedestrian when they solo que. Its all a matter of perspective like I said.