Slowpokeking Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 He wants to wipe out 98% of the Empire's population, simply because they got sith ancestry? It's super extreme even from the view of a Sith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forgon Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 He wants to wipe out 98% of the Empire's population, simply because they got sith ancestry? It's super extreme even from the view of a Sith. Correction: 97% efficient genocide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowpokeking Posted July 16, 2012 Author Share Posted July 16, 2012 Correction: 97% efficient genocide. Yeah, I checked again HK47 said 97.8%, but he's still crazy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrolan Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 He wants to wipe out 98% of the Empire's population, simply because they got sith ancestry? It's super extreme even from the view of a Sith. Of course he is, he's spent hundreds of years in the emperors head after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson_Paladin Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 It's pretty sound by Warhammer 40k standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Zone Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 In spite of Jeff Bennett and Kris Tabori doing the voices of Revan and HK, Foundry was just badly written, imo. We can't even blame Karpyshyn for that, either. He didn't write it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrooperLPN Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Considering that the Sith culture was never destroyed and it keeps coming back, if he had gone through with his plan, there would probably be no more sith in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayla_Felana Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 It's pretty sound by Warhammer 40k standards. I seriously Lol'd at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarbacca Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 At this point, he and the Jedi Council are fueled by hatred. The Council knows that Revan wants revenge, and they don't care. They'll continue to use his power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiating Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Considering that the Sith culture was never destroyed and it keeps coming back, if he had gone through with his plan, there would probably be no more sith in the future. Do not confuse The Sith race and Culture with the Sith Dark Side to the Jedi. The "Sith" as in the enemy to the Jedi would have existed, even had the Sith "race" been wiped out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HellbirdIV Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 (edited) The Sith Empire is constructed in such a way that killing their leaders means that their immediate subordinates will rise up to fill the void and almost always be just as bad or worse than their predecessors, so wide-scale genocide is the only way to truly neutralize it. Revan is desperate and probably a little bit crazy, and definately not a good person for wanting this. I'd say Revan has succumbed to Warcraft-Villain syndrome, "He's evil because he's been corrupted and turned crazy". Edited July 23, 2012 by HellbirdIV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheManAndres Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 don't a lot of jedi have sith ancestry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBetty Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Considering that the Sith culture was never destroyed and it keeps coming back, if he had gone through with his plan, there would probably be no more sith in the future. The Sith will always keep coming back You can't destroy the dark side of the force. As long as there is light, there will always be dark haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebigdoubleu Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 It's pretty sound by Warhammer 40k standards. "It is time to proceed with the Exterminatus! Wipe the Sith scum from the face of the galaxy." "Yes, Jedi Master Revan. For the Emperor!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperdragon Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Who's to say that the Jedi authorized Revan to use the foundry to eliminate 97% of the empire? The Republic are most likely the ones who encouraged him, the Jedi most likely said no don't there are better alternatives. Revan also is not a jedi anymore, he left the order ~300 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrooperLPN Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Do not confuse The Sith race and Culture with the Sith Dark Side to the Jedi. The "Sith" as in the enemy to the Jedi would have existed, even had the Sith "race" been wiped out. What I'm saying is that if he destroyed 98.7% of the Empire he could probably easily destroy the rest, then proceed to destroy all sith teachings and knowledge, basically a future equivalent of a book burning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stugotz Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 It would certainly make the galaxy a better place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diaconate Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 It would certainly make the galaxy a better place. It would have! Sith are jerks. And if the Republic were willing to commit more forces to protecting the Foundry, as opposed to taking a hands-off approach to it, it might have worked*. But in doing so, and in being able to support an initiative like that directly instead of turning their heads from it, they'd be a little more like the Empire. (*: Okay, I'm being silly, the status quo is supreme and nothing is galactic law like "the sith and jedi will carve each-other to pieces for the entirety of the era"**.) (**: Because the Star Cabal sez so.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Path-x Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 (edited) What I'm saying is that if he destroyed 98.7% of the Empire he could probably easily destroy the rest, then proceed to destroy all sith teachings and knowledge, basically a future equivalent of a book burning. Destroying all the knowledge would be the only effective solution. But in SW universe there are ghosts of ancient Sith Lords who would just spread it anyway. Wiping out humans with Sith genes, of which most are not even aware of having them nor have any knowledge of Sith, is completely useless. If you think about it, 3000 years later when everyone mixed up, it is a good bet that Obi-Wan had more Sith genes than Vader and yet he was Jedi while Vader was Sith Lord. Edited July 24, 2012 by Path-x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temeluchus Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 (edited) What I'm saying is that if he destroyed 98.7% of the Empire he could probably easily destroy the rest, then proceed to destroy all sith teachings and knowledge, basically a future equivalent of a book burning. Destroying all Sith teachings,knowledge,holocrons and the like would be virtually impossible. Followers of the Sith ideology and the physical copies of Sith knowledge are scattered throughout the galaxy, not in centralized locations. We're talking about thousands if not tens of thousands or more of known,habitable planets that could have some sort of connection to the Sith or have Sith holocrons on them and I won't even begin to guess what the virtually unexplored Unknown Regions may hold. Now add in things like Sith ghosts and the /facepalm time traveling Lost Tribe of the Sith and there would always be some Sith teachings left behind for some Dark Jedi or power hungry Force Sensitive to find and put them into play. Something will always survive. Sidious gave Vader a page from Darth Malgus' journal as a gift, for example, and that survived thousands of years and either the destruction of TOR's Sith Empire or its absorption into the Republic. Edited July 24, 2012 by Temeluchus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBetty Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Destroying all Sith teachings,knowledge,holocrons and the like would be virtually impossible. Followers of the Sith ideology and the physical copies of Sith knowledge are scattered throughout the galaxy, not in centralized locations. We're talking about thousands if not tens of thousands or more of known,habitable planets that could have some sort of connection to the Sith or have Sith holocrons on them and I won't even begin to guess what the virtually unexplored Unknown Regions may hold. Now add in things like Sith ghosts and the /facepalm time traveling Lost Tribe of the Sith and there would always be some Sith teachings left behind for some Dark Jedi or power hungry Force Sensitive to find and put them into play. Something will always survive. Sidious gave Vader a page from Darth Malgus' journal as a gift, for example, and that survived thousands of years and either the destruction of TOR's Sith Empire or its absorption into the Republic. Good points. The thing is even if Revan's plan was a success. It doesn't take into account the dark side users who don't have Sith ancestry such as Twileks As long as Jedi exist there will always be Sith. Therefore there is only one solution. During the Agent Story line, you become aware of the Star Cabal's plans, to destroy all force sensitives. Giving the galaxy back to normal people. They realise that in order to truly free the galaxy from war and destruction both the Jedi & Sith need to die. For as long as one exists so does the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temeluchus Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 During the Agent Story line, you become aware of the Star Cabal's plans, to destroy all force sensitives. Giving the galaxy back to normal people. They realise that in order to truly free the galaxy from war and destruction both the Jedi & Sith need to die. For as long as one exists so does the other. Which is why I think the group you mention in the spoiler would make for a great 3rd faction if BioWare ever decided to go down that route. At the very least, I'd like to see that group grow out of the IA storyline into a galactic wide questline and Operation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Malish Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Care to explain why do you think that the Sith Empire deserve to be wiped out? What makes them so bad in your eyes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWagner Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 So... Revan eliminating that huge % of Sith Is not as bad as... ...the emperor's goal for galactic genocide, wiping out all life? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Path-x Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 (edited) Therefore there is only one solution. to destroy all force sensitives. You can't destroy force sensitives. As far as I know, the force is not something you would inherit from your parents (we know that it is possible but that is more of an exception than a rule). Force sensitives appear randomly among normal people. Wiping out all current force sensitives would not prevent new force sensitives in the future. Now speaking generally about the topic, the destruction of all Sith and their knowledge would not prevent the evil. There will always be dark side force users who will somehow try to dominate the galaxy and they would just come up with a new ideology. The only difference it would make is that it wouldn't be called "Sith Empire". Edited July 25, 2012 by Path-x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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