Considering Malak states that Revan is much more powerful just before his own death, than Revan ever was as a Dark Lord of the Sith and considering that he had the unified knowledge of both his original mind and the knowledge he gained as his alter-ego, then it's pretty obvious Reborn Revan is much stronger.

This, all female Sith but Lumiya used the Lord title.

I think it might be 50-55.

Beni, would like you to begin the new series soon, I know you said January 1st you'd debut it, but that's too long to wait. I like your series and debates, basically.

They brought him back three times actually, once against Ben Kenobi, once against Vader and another time when he ambushed Skywalker as a hologram, four times if you count his Proxy cameo in TFU.

You mean the Force is actually Illuvitar, the god who created everything.

No Kun would come in the finale, His forces would smash Malgus', Kun's only real fight here would come out of Darth Revan.

Considering Marka Ragnos, the last true and still active Dark Lord of the Sith(spirit) crowned Exar Kun Dark Lord instead of Vitiate or anyone else, I think that makes Kun the greatest claimant here.

Aw Yeah: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKnao1khTmg

1.Kun. 2.Revan. 3.Malgus. 4.Traya. Rayla_Felana, doing coloured fonts before it was cool

Zann, he has what G0-T0 has and more, simple. Darth Revan, Kaan's Sith were stagnant and fairly weak, Darth Revan's had fought one war and won and were in the middle of fighting another war they were still winning, Revan's operatives, his more challenging Sith doctrines and his own genius, out-does everything Kaan has. Darth Malgus, Stealth and a united Sith powerbase trump everything Xizor has IMO. Darth Traya, she has an army of assassins, an excellent genius and if all else fails, she has herself, I think she could outwit the master of life. Exar Kun, the difference between Sadow's opponents here, is the fact that Exar Kun is a tremendously powerful Sith, I do not believe it would be hard at all for him to hone in on Sadow's sphere, given that Kun had a great enough mind and will even before becoming Dark Lord to call out to his former Master, albeit weakly, across the galaxy, even with Nadd blocking his connection. He also used Qel-Droma's strength in the Dark Side to hone in on his location, I believe he could merely mastermind his way to knock Sadow off balance and turn the tide of war instantly. I actually think this comes down to Darth Revan and Exar Kun, thinking about it, if we go elimination style, but I'll save that for the day.

Completely taken aback by your choice given the immense military power differential between the two, but regardless, apparently 'points' win now.

Really? I always assumed that they were like maximum 500, because legacies certainly made it look that way, but I am clearly wrong.

Precisely, but that wasn't my point, the Empire wasn't steam-rolling the Republic contrary to popular belief.

The One Sith were not, they were an organization hidden on Korriban ever since Hett went to train in the ways of the Dark Side so he could kill Vader and the Emperor, once he'd been kicked out of the Sand People by being defeated by Ben Kenobi, he went to Korriban and let his vision guide him, he built an organization out of it, a hidden one that remained for a century and a half, mainly built out of family lines, it was not a big Sith Order, not nearly the size of Kaan's Brotherhood.

Difference there is the Army of Light was massive, it was the whole Jedi Order basically, the One Sith are not nearly as big as that.

Because character statements are canon, simply put, we know as a matter of fact that the Sith war machine had been halted in it's tracks once the Republic got it's act together, they even pushed the Empire right back to Korriban, the Seat of the Empire, it took Malgus and others pulling a pincer movement to force the Republic back a few systems, the Empire got blitzed before the Republic stopped, then eventually the Empire(Revan) made the Sacking of Coruscant and the Treaty happen. The Republic definitely were holding their ground in the mid-rim, the only reason the Empire got all those extra systems is because they'd taken the Republic's capital hostage and 'forced the ink on the paper', to coin the phrase.

Basically it was born out of the Sith-Imperial war against the Alliance, which they won re-soundly, even against the mighty New Jedi Order. The Imperial Remnant became the Fel Empire and then the Sith Empire, under the One Sith. But when it was all said and done, Darth Krayt killed the 'Fel' in the throne that he came across and made himself the new Emperor, the first Sith to assume true control of the galaxy since Darth Sidious, the Council of Moffs agreed to his rule and sided with him entirely.

He ruled the galaxy and even tore down the Jedi Temple on Coruscant and rebuilt it as the Sith Temple, his reign certainly wasn't long, but it was strong and only thwarted by some seriously substantial setbacks that came out of nowhere. We would have to ignore the Fel in Exile stuff, because it makes it far too complicated, etc... but Krayt's Empire was a legitimate one, with the entire high council and the moffs pledging themselves to his new 'singular vision'.

Quite the battle, but IMO Krayt has to have Talon, Nihl, Wyyrlook and others, otherwise there is no One Sith at all. I would actually suggest Lord Hoth's army of Light and the Galactic Republic of the time vs Emperor Krayt and the Imperial Remnant, their respective heights of power.

Emperor Krayt's Second Galactic Empire.

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Hearthfire for Skyrim was named an expansion/DLC and that literally just added building houses and a few adopted kids.

It took Vader and Sidious actively creating the Rebel Alliance through Starkiller and his Jedi Master for them to rise up, hence the Rebellion symbol being the Marek family crest, it's not something that just sprang up, the Empire's leaders actively created the threat in the first place.

The debate was done last month, this is all finished, the OP decided Traya won here, that's that.