V-Serp Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 I`ll vote for a new feature - a one hour ban to enter the WZ to all who quits the WZ. Might as well make it a lifetime ban, because I can guarantee I unsub if they put in any type of deserter buff at all. ESPECIALLY if they insist on dumping me into losing WZs or uneven ones. At least half my games are huge losses already in progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeopardydd Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Might as well make it a lifetime ban, because I can guarantee I unsub if they put in any type of deserter buff at all. ESPECIALLY if they insist on dumping me into losing WZs or uneven ones. At least half my games are huge losses already in progress. haha, yeah. lets see: 1) Dump people into games already losing badly 2) make sure they can't end early when you don't have full teams 3) give people no rewards for staying and losing badly and then 4) stop them from queuing again if they don't stay. yeah, byebye any warzones popping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackAdderBG Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 (edited) deleted. Edited April 13, 2012 by BlackAdderBG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamsmacked Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 (edited) No kidding... The rewards for losing a warzone are *********** laughable. Why stay around and waste your time when you're not even getting a DECENT fair share of credits/coms at least? Stupid as hell, you're better of quitting instead of wasting your time in a bad warzone only to get 14 medals 0 credits and like 50 coms. ROFL. Edited April 13, 2012 by bamsmacked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthMaulUK Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 I joined a match of Huttball at 3-0 down with some time to go, just as I spawned it went to 4-0. I carried out, managed to squeeze in a couple of medals b4 they made it 6-0. And I didnt get a single bean. No Valour, Coms, Money, nothing, nada. All that loading in, playing(for a short time) and coming back out for zero. So as of now, its pointless joining a losing warzone 3/4 way through or even at 3-0 in huttball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altruismo Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Ragequitting because you "gain nothing" is extremely selfish and foolish. On a loss where everyone stays and fights to the end, I'm pulling 50-70 comms and >1500 credits. On a loss where 5-6 people RQ over the course of the match and I'm part of a team that struggles to break 5 members for most of the fight, I'll pull 20-30 comms and <1000 credits. The only reason losses look so bad now, is because people are gimping their team, and crippling the ability of the remaining members to earn commendations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razot Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 I joined a match of Huttball at 3-0 down with some time to go, just as I spawned it went to 4-0. I carried out, managed to squeeze in a couple of medals b4 they made it 6-0. And I didnt get a single bean. No Valour, Coms, Money, nothing, nada. All that loading in, playing(for a short time) and coming back out for zero. So as of now, its pointless joining a losing warzone 3/4 way through or even at 3-0 in huttball x5 for me today.. not cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowantics Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 ull rage quit when ur team has 2 ppl counting you. and the other team has 8 ppl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alcek Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 You can't make people more calm by just saying "be calm". They will rage quit if they find themselves in a hilarious /by BW design!/ situation. They will be less likely to queue again, so in a while few will play with a totally unfair system. No one wants to support UNFAIR system. Overall, as many said, there will be less queues for wzs, and you know what this means and where it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vimm Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 if you feel the need to stay in a losing warzone when you get nothing in return then thats all on you. Not everyone wants to waste 15 minutes for nothing. There is no need to put a deserter debuff in the game, especially with the new changes to warzones. If they added a debuff then pvp would for sure be dead. If you consider that 15 minutes a waste, then why do you PvP? To get PvP gear, so you can PvP? Are you only capable of enjoying the content when your character has absolutely everything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toomywoomy Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 (edited) If you consider that 15 minutes a waste, then why do you PvP? To get PvP gear, so you can PvP? Are you only capable of enjoying the content when your character has absolutely everything? C'mon man we have been over this : it is not fun to get stomped upon by better geared ppl (who have now a bigger expertise advantage btw). And not even getting some kind of reward for taking the beating. Don't get me wrong, I've never left a WZ and never will. But after 1.2 I just can't blame people who do anymore. Can't we get past some points and not read the same things for 20 pages ? (Yeah i know, actually expecting users to read before posting is a longshot) Edited April 13, 2012 by toomywoomy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthOvertone Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 I joined a match of Huttball at 3-0 down with some time to go, just as I spawned it went to 4-0. I carried out, managed to squeeze in a couple of medals b4 they made it 6-0. And I didnt get a single bean. No Valour, Coms, Money, nothing, nada. All that loading in, playing(for a short time) and coming back out for zero. So as of now, its pointless joining a losing warzone 3/4 way through or even at 3-0 in huttball The zero rewards for losing bit seems to only be occurring in Huttball matches where teams don't score. This sounds like a bug to me. I would Bug Report this immediately when it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosphuratu Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 (edited) I`ll vote for a new feature - a one hour ban to enter the WZ to all who quits the WZ. ur a super genious... people just wont que. then enjoy having ur premade in que for hours on end.. Edited April 13, 2012 by Nosphuratu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinlynn Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Last I checked, professional athletes still get paid for a loss. So all you i-peen horde play cow bells can lick boots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crawelc Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 So we can show bioware how smart they are. Done and done sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amerailis Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 And this is why we need a deserter debuff. People too lazy and spoiled to try and WIN on their own, they'd rather QUIT than TRY. You won't get far in life with that attitude, kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VoidJustice Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 FYI entered a match with only 7 republic last night, immediately some guy quits... the rest of the 6 decide to stay and fight as we usually doon my server. There were only 6 imperial also... we won! moral of the story,it's not over, tillit's over. fight every match as hard as you can till it ends, it makes you a stronger player tolearn to overcome adversity. Quitting justmakes people hate you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalaek Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Yep, I agree. Though I'll say it should be 30-minutes so if you do really crash/etc. you're not totally screwed . People need to stop entering to just get easy wins + rewards, and actually fight for their loots & fun. It seems the whole entitlement attitude is strong in this community, Luke.... I mean... yeah. How will this solve the problem. All this will do is make the wait times longer. They should return the rewards to what they were and then re-implement the current 1.2 rewards after they get the RWZs up and running. This is just horribad right now. There is no point in staying in a loosing WZ to be farmed by a pre-made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siega Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 BW just made the problem exponentially worse by only implementing a part of the PVP update. Without ranked WZ's they've really screwed up. Ranking would have been off to a bad start right now, where dps zerging instead of teamwork is the new style to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vimm Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 No thank you. I will continue to queue solo and stay to the end, regardless of the circumstances, and will also continue to enjoy myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalaek Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 (edited) FYI entered a match with only 7 republic last night, immediately some guy quits... the rest of the 6 decide to stay and fight as we usually do on my server. There were only 6 imperial also... we won! moral of the story, it's not over, till it's over. fight every match as hard as you can till it ends, it makes you a stronger player to learn to overcome adversity. Quitting just makes people hate you. I am all about sticking it out if there is "some" reward for doing so, but when I run a WZs and we enter with 6-7 ppl, which seemed to be the norm last night, and we get crushed. Where is the incentive for the players to stay in the zone? Or when you enter a zone that is already a loss. By inacting 1 hour debuff all that will happen is longer Q times which means, YOU will also have to wait that long. They need to put the rewards back and then if they wanted to add a debuff i could support it. But with no rewards or limited rewards i cannot bash people for leaving. Edited April 13, 2012 by Kalaek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CptZeal Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 (edited) Winners never quit, quitters never win. Working as intended. Edited April 13, 2012 by CptZeal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbertt Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 My point is, it is fairly easy for them to please both you and me: To please you, they reward winning. To please me, they used to reward participation. There is no downside for you in that, is there? You get better rewards if you win. I get some rewards if I lose, so I can still gear up, albeit at a slower pace. What is the downside to you? You will fight better geared opponents and have a better time. Or we quit and the servers will be even more dead... but hey, you have your super gear, with no one to show it off for. Answer is pretty simple, people that play to win got fedup of carrying people that play to farm. The rewards for a loss are fine, they just need to put a leavers buff or something, because that is what is causing the unfairness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vimm Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 C'mon man we have been over this : it is not fun to get stomped upon by better geared ppl (who have now a bigger expertise advantage btw). And not even getting some kind of reward for taking the beating. Don't get me wrong, I've never left a WZ and never will. But after 1.2 I just can't blame people who do anymore. Can't we get past some points and not read the same things for 20 pages ? (Yeah i know, actually expecting users to read before posting is a longshot) And again, gear is now easier to get than ever before - in any mmo, for that matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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