Zrodin Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 Get to work on server merges really quick-like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadedsorrow Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 this is a good idea!! PLZ hold back rated WZs til server to server pvp is up and going.. Low pop servers wouldve had a hard time keeping rated and non rated WZs filled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gustehbus Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 I want to know how long BW has known they weren't going to release ranked wz's and how much money they would have lost if they would have announced it NOT the day before the patch. I know they wouldn't have got my $15 for this last month if I had known. I feel like I just got stole from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnipskiller Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 Testing (internally and on the PTS) was part of what led us to the decision we've had to make. We know that it is disappointing that we've had to push the feature back, but we have done testing. We do want everyone to be able to join us in testing on a high-level character on the PTS, but for this testing period, it wouldn't have been as easy as granting characters experience via an NPC. We are continuing to work on improvements to our PTS testing and appreciate your patience. But why do you wait the last 7 hours before the patch to announce this with no ETA at all ? Do you get that a lot of people paid 15 bucks in april just because they thought ranked warzone were coming ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiTMaNSZ Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 what a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghaleon Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 BAHAHAHA 77925 WZ commendations to get full WH assuming you are already full BM. This is some *********** innovating PvP, BW! Seriously? 77925 comms for a full set of WH gear? What genius thought that the 3:1 conversion would be a suitable replacement for the lack of actual Ranked WZs? After being forced to grind out Valor 60 for BM gear I'm not about to get forced into grinding 3x WZs for a single WH piece. Massive fail BW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sogui Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 This really shattered what faith I had left in this game and developer team. This is the ONLY thing I was waiting for in 1.2, now my months of hard work grinding up to BM and getting full BM gear will mean nothing in about a week when even fresh 50's will be able to earn a new BM piece every few warzones... This is an obscene joke to the most dedicated players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dzhokhar Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 Not releasing ranked warzones is not so much the issue as is the poor communication announcing the delay. I don't mind waiting; it just would've been nice for everyone to have received notice far earlier. The people who make these decisions need to be in better communication with your PR department. They probably didn't make the decision until sometime today. They had a ranked-warzone-specific testing event this past weekend. Prior to that, they probably didn't have much data to make any judgement from. Then, the developers probably didn't get any opportunity to parse/collate the data until Monday (at the earliest, with the holiday weekend). Once you factor in a day or more to distribute the data to the analysts, analyze the data, and pass the analysis results up to a decision-maker, it's not really surprising that we would only find out about the change today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VertisReaper Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 War Hero Bags inc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BendakStarkiller Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 Wow..... I'm so impressed how 80% of my guild just unsubscribed over vent just now. We were WAITING for this for 3 months. Im jealous, 100% of my guild did. My 30~ man guild and the last 12 active people are now gone... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordHazanko Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 Give me my money back same here I wants a refund Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchron Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 this is bs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavensTerror Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 Rather have it good then mediocre. Anyway gives me time to work on my gear sets and practicing on the new wz. Sucks, but whatever life goes on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nschlan Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 The issue I have isn't so much not releasing it, I'm sure that, given the track record of this game, it is FAR from ready. The issue I have is the fact that they took it out HOURS BEFORE the patch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painted Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 Seriously? 77925 comms for a full set of WH gear? What genius thought that the 3:1 conversion would be a suitable replacement for the lack of actual Ranked WZs? After being forced to grind out Valor 60 for BM gear I'm not about to get forced into grinding 3x WZs for a single WH piece. Massive fail BW. That had better be a falsehood otherwise pve gear will be 20x easier to get them pvp and all pvp players will get screwed if so you can count my sub cancelled and I will be happy to go find a better game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtth Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 This was pulled because most server populations couldn't handle two separate groups of people pvping. I already see the same 20 or so people. how about they just merge the *********** servers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venrale Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 So BW just curious how does it feel to have both gaming communtys for the two biggest games you have released this year be completly pissed off at you???? SWTOR is pissed and Mass Effect is so pissed the gamers want to freaking SUE you GG BW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupacob Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 announce hours before the patch that there will be no rated warzones, nice. prepare to lose a ton more subs, what a joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillinvillain Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 (edited) I'll preface this by saying I rarely post on the forums. I'm coming out of hiding for this thread, though, because someone needs to represent the viewpoint of the non-casual PvPer. The PvE players will of course line up to say we're the minority- they always do. They'll continue to say we're vocal, and that our impact on a game is minimal, ect. Because, well, somewhere along the line, they got led to believe that all PvPers hate PvEers, and the forum troll wars started where everyone picked a faction and yelled and screamed until it became standard behavior. I don't hate PvE. I am a PvP focused player, but I don't want to change your raids, or the itemization of your gear, or make you PvP to get a BiS belt or a set of bracers to max your stats for raiding. For the most part- I want you guys to have your focus untouched, and not have to do things you hate in order to do the things you enjoy. But on the other hand, the PvPer has been handed the worst development in the game over and over since this game's launch, the worst itemization of stats, forced PvE for BiS/stat itemization, and a completely broken World PvP setup. You made valor changes that made the ranks meaningless, you put in interim systems for commendations that essentially handed out free gear to everyone who put in minimal effort after tons of people had a merciless grind to get both their ranks/gear. It's clear that PvE is the focus of this game. That's fine- most games focus this way, and I get it- but it doesn't give your development teams an excuse to completely half-*** one part of the game, and that's exactly what has happened with PvP. World PvP was terrible from launch, and you've essentially admitted defeat until you can completely re-work it. You changed methods of commendations twice with these "temporary" fixes until more permanent systems could go in, and now, we get no rated warzones, but another temporary way to aquire gear. When does the PvP community get a finished product? How many temporary changes and re-works do we get before we get what the PvEers had at launch- finished content? You made it clear what the focus for 1.2 was in who you invited to test/copy, and that was PvE guilds to test your new T2 raid. No PvP guilds to test your rated warzones? Really. And the day prior to launching the patch, you have to pull the plug on it. You probably had an entire throng of PvEers testing PvP content for one, and for two, just the lack of focus on it overall reflects poorly on your PvP team, and Bioware as a whole. If PvP isn't a major focus, you need to say so, rather than keeping the charade of it mattering, yet proving again and again with shoddy development that it doesn't. post is on page 32: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=400532&page=32 signed. Edited April 11, 2012 by chillinvillain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cupofwater Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 You do not realize how many of my guildies were only coming back because of this. Should of wasted less time on legacy, and used it on actual game play. Two Things that will make this game thrive. (1) Server Merges, or Cross-Server (2) Ranked PVP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Averji Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 start server merges asap because half the game just unsubbed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rippconius Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 i'll preface this by saying i rarely post on the forums. I'm coming out of hiding for this thread, though, because someone needs to represent the viewpoint of the non-casual pvper. The pve players will of course line up to say we're the minority- they always do. They'll continue to say we're vocal, and that our impact on a game is minimal, ect. Because, well, somewhere along the line, they got led to believe that all pvpers hate pveers, and the forum troll wars started where everyone picked a faction and yelled and screamed until it became standard behavior. I don't hate pve. I am a pvp focused player, but i don't want to change your raids, or the itemization of your gear, or make you pvp to get a bis belt or a set of bracers to max your stats for raiding. For the most part- i want you guys to have your focus untouched, and not have to do things you hate in order to do the things you enjoy. But on the other hand, the pvper has been handed the worst development in the game over and over since this game's launch, the worst itemization of stats, forced pve for bis/stat itemization, and a completely broken world pvp setup. You made valor changes that made the ranks meaningless, you put in interim systems for commendations that essentially handed out free gear to everyone who put in minimal effort after tons of people had a merciless grind to get both their ranks/gear. It's clear that pve is the focus of this game. That's fine- most games focus this way, and i get it- but it doesn't give your development teams an excuse to completely half-*** one part of the game, and that's exactly what has happened with pvp. World pvp was terrible from launch, and you've essentially admitted defeat until you can completely re-work it. You changed methods of commendations twice with these "temporary" fixes until more permanent systems could go in, and now, we get no rated warzones, but another temporary way to aquire gear. When does the pvp community get a finished product? How many temporary changes and re-works do we get before we get what the pveers had at launch- finished content? You made it clear what the focus for 1.2 was in who you invited to test/copy, and that was pve guilds to test your new t2 raid. No pvp guilds to test your rated warzones? Really. And the day prior to launching the patch, you have to pull the plug on it. You probably had an entire throng of pveers testing pvp content for one, and for two, just the lack of focus on it overall reflects poorly on your pvp team, and bioware as a whole. If pvp isn't a major focus, you need to say so, rather than keeping the charade of it mattering, yet proving again and again with shoddy development that it doesn't. qft!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitigated Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 Testing (internally and on the PTS) was part of what led us to the decision we've had to make. We know that it is disappointing that we've had to push the feature back, but we have done testing. We do want everyone to be able to join us in testing on a high-level character on the PTS, but for this testing period, it wouldn't have been as easy as granting characters experience via an NPC. We are continuing to work on improvements to our PTS testing and appreciate your patience. Just admit what you did, the smart people see it... You wanted Sub numbers up, ranked WZ's got that, and now you are trying to string people along for another sub period. Yeah, its really that obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fonil Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 Testing (internally and on the PTS) was part of what led us to the decision we've had to make. We know that it is disappointing that we've had to push the feature back, but we have done testing. We do want everyone to be able to join us in testing on a high-level character on the PTS, but for this testing period, it wouldn't have been as easy as granting characters experience via an NPC. We are continuing to work on improvements to our PTS testing and appreciate your patience. Thats kinda weird that's the same crap you told us in Beta when we were trying to test endgame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dudeo Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 First World Problems... you guys have them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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