Ravand Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 I would like to apologize for bioware... they seem to have mixed up the inquisitor pvp and pve armor sets with the sets designed for the army of joker in DC universe online armor sets http://dulfy.net/2012/03/17/1-2-new-armor-models/ Key master clown costume ( sorc PVP set ) was originally designed for the riddle minions but later on changed to fit the clown of death minion type costume Both the Key master clown costume and the smiling death mask costume was posted by mistake as the next SWTOR inquisitor tier 4 armor sets... Please forgive bioware.... Please... let it be true.... i know its a mistake... i trust bioware.... they are the best... they would not design armors for starwars that have no relation to anything reminding us of a tech sorcerer wielding the force in some high tech setting... would they... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miaxi Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 (edited) We don't know what we want and can only provide SWTOR promotional art as example for what gear should look like but we know that we don't want that newfangled stuff from the same designers! Edited March 25, 2012 by Miaxi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NasherUK Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 (edited) Why do they keep designing armour that looks it belongs in wow? Just because it's end-game gear doesn't mean it has to look ridiculus and totally out of place. If you really want to stick with designs like this, you might as well just give us a box full mods and skip on the armour itself. At least I won't have to pay to strip them out (which I will, instantly). Edited March 26, 2012 by NasherUK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDucheMagnifico Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 (edited) edit: link was removed Edited March 26, 2012 by LDucheMagnifico Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalifaxAg Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 signed. for better future. /signed ...it's truly awful and looks not a wink like anything Star Wars... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDucheMagnifico Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Sorry for the double post. New link requesting a challenge for designing armor; community vs the art team. http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=3618684#post3618684 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zachajariah Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Sorry for the double post. New link requesting a challenge for designing armor; community vs the art team. http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=3618684#post3618684 +1 Very good idea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSair Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 This is...maddening. Why...are they all so ugly... BioWare. I don't want to unsub. But 1.2 is making it reeeeaally hard not to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravand Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Gentlemen! Could we start summing up the general notion and address our mutual request to the developers? Here we go: - BioWare, please have it noted that the general gaming public finds your efforts unsatisfactory in what concerns design of endgame armor for patch 1.2 for these main reasons: 1. All armor designs are questionable lore-wise and are taking the spirit of Star Wars even further away from the game, which the majority of us have no reasons to justify; 2. Basically, no given class has received an armor design which fits into it characteristically, which defines it gameplay role and style. This is true for all force-users and the Smuggler/Agent classes, with BH/Trooper being a possible exception. We thus request that emergency measures be taken to change the said designs completely before patch 1.2 gets released. More importantly, we strongly suggest that in feature designs the general public's expectations on Star Wars atmosphere definition should be prioritized over individual designers' concepts who seem to work off existing trends in other MMOs (like World of Warcraft). Thank you for understanig. this... do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nezyrworks Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 I have to add my 5 cents here. Please add my comment as a ps bellow your mature coment. All u have to do is see the star wars movie series in the first place, and stop playing WOW. PS Not only current pvp sets (centurion/champion/battlemaster) are ugly and unfitting to star wars saga as possible, you had also designed new sets which are even worse. After soo many years of excellent projects made for Lucas Arts, West End Games (starwars rpg), hell even for D20 Star Wars, you had ruined it, by adding Blizzards 'splendor' onto them. Additional rocket launchers on heads, shoulders and butts, wings on shoulderpads, disfigued helmets looking like happy hippo toys from kinder surprise... Let the community see what you are up to sometimes... maybe they have additional comments on the armors... But right now, tier 1 and 2 endrgame armours are just ugly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanderzz Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 (edited) Well Ms Moderator.. if you think so: Mr Zoeller, From all your vids, i always see your vision, of a Star Wars MMO, that "lasts for years", the biggest coolest Star Wars Game ever. Your vision + the fact i love iconic Star Wars brought me to buy this game. Please, have a look at this and tell me. do you envision, in your dream a JEDI KNIGHT, even in a debatable-canon, alternate universe look like this: http://dulfy.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/coloredvariationsknight.jpg For comparison: http://www.google.de/search?q=jedi+knight&hl=de&prmd=imvns&source=lnms&tbm=isch&ei=Ir5sT7Qjh5860tLx8QU&sa=X&oi=mode_link&ct=mode&cd=2&ved=0CBwQ_AUoAQ&biw=1119&bih=897 Seeing those designs i rather feel remembered to: http://www.google.de/search?q=wow+armor&hl=de&prmd=imvns&source=lnms&tbm=isch&ei=J79sT6CkOYWDOrHHmYMG&sa=X&oi=mode_link&ct=mode&cd=2&ved=0CBAQ_AUoAQ&biw=1119&bih=897 Really. Other classes are debatably worse, and i dont even play a knight. I think a lot of people here would really like to see a step back, and if you have to, delay the Patch 1.2... but bring us Armours that look like Star Wars. Or at least: Make prying out mods free. These armors, are in game, and IMO these are what Jedi Knights should be wearing. http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc517/vander89/Screenshot_2012-03-25_19_19_07_865677.jpg http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc517/vander89/Screenshot_2012-03-25_19_19_02_146350.jpg http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc517/vander89/Screenshot_2012-03-25_19_18_57_870106.jpg As a sentinel, I frown upon the White rakata armor and the ORANGE columi. Seriously.. This armor is for a Jedi Sentinel NPC on Correlia, Axial Park zoo. THIS IS WHAT I WANT FOR MY SENTINEL TO WEAR http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc517/vander89/Screenshot_2012-03-26_00_08_11_104026.jpg http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc517/vander89/Screenshot_2012-03-26_00_08_29_722091.jpg http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc517/vander89/Screenshot_2012-03-26_00_08_21_717633.jpg http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc517/vander89/Screenshot_2012-03-26_00_08_37_457533.jpg Why they already made it in game, but not let us wear it? come on, seriously Bioware, even in the cinematics, does any of the jedis wear orange armor? http://media-titanium.cursecdn.com/attachments/39/870/weaponmaster_jk.jpg *edit: The only armor I am looking forward to is The Exalted armors. http://dulfy.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/sentinelexatled1.jpg Thanks to Dulfy for posting the pics (Usefull ideas for their artist goes here : http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=3626651#post3626651 ) Edited March 26, 2012 by Vanderzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djkalman Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Gentlemen! Could we start summing up the general notion and address our mutual request to the developers? Here we go: - BioWare, please have it noted that the general gaming public finds your efforts unsatisfactory in what concerns design of endgame armor for patch 1.2 for these main reasons: 1. All armor designs are questionable lore-wise and are taking the spirit of Star Wars even further away from the game, which the majority of us have no reasons to justify; 2. Basically, no given class has received an armor design which fits into it characteristically, which defines it gameplay role and style. This is true for all force-users and the Smuggler/Agent classes, with BH/Trooper being a possible exception. We thus request that emergency measures be taken to change the said designs completely before patch 1.2 gets released. More importantly, we strongly suggest that in feature designs the general public's expectations on Star Wars atmosphere definition should be prioritized over individual designers' concepts who seem to work off existing trends in other MMOs (like World of Warcraft). Thank you for understanig. /signed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djkalman Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 I would love to hear back from BW regarding this... please let us hear your opinion and plans regarding this huge amount of people complaining about this gear - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SillyTurtle Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 (edited) Don't turn this into a petition, keep this a discussion or you will never get an answer. I'm sure they noted this thread and perhaps (or not) they will add a reply if they feel they need/want to. Otherwise, bumping only stating "/signed" is only going to hurt the thread and have it closed. I'd only advise we all keep it going as a discussion. Edited March 26, 2012 by SillyTurtle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostyDroid Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Sorry for the double post. New link requesting a challenge for designing armor; community vs the art team. http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=3618684#post3618684 It's worth noting that City of Heroes have already done joint developer/community costume design projects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOGFelix Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Gentlemen! Could we start summing up the general notion and address our mutual request to the developers? Here we go: - BioWare, please have it noted that the general gaming public finds your efforts unsatisfactory in what concerns design of endgame armor for patch 1.2 for these main reasons: 1. All armor designs are questionable lore-wise and are taking the spirit of Star Wars even further away from the game, which the majority of us have no reasons to justify; 2. Basically, no given class has received an armor design which fits into it characteristically, which defines it gameplay role and style. This is true for all force-users and the Smuggler/Agent classes, with BH/Trooper being a possible exception. We thus request that emergency measures be taken to change the said designs completely before patch 1.2 gets released. More importantly, we strongly suggest that in feature designs the general public's expectations on Star Wars atmosphere definition should be prioritized over individual designers' concepts who seem to work off existing trends in other MMOs (like World of Warcraft). Thank you for understanig. With 64+ pages, 640+ posts, & over 47,737k views.... there should be some Dev feedback by now. Where oh where is Georg Zoeller, or Will Wallace? To quote the venerable Chevy Chase "Come on guys" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VicSkimmr Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 What kind of dev feedback are you looking to get? "We spent hundreds of hours designing these sets, but since some people don't like them we'll scrap it all and go back to the drawing board." ?? They can't make everyone happy, and they know what they're doing. When was the last time you saw the new tier of WoW raid gear and thought, damn I can't wait to get that? With the mod system update in 1.2 this whole issue is alleviated. I think if you actually took an objective look at the T2 armors you'd find a few pieces on each set that would look great when combined with other pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Karsk Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 (edited) What kind of dev feedback are you looking to get? "We spent hundreds of hours designing these sets, but since some people don't like them we'll scrap it all and go back to the drawing board." ?? They can't make everyone happy, and they know what they're doing. When was the last time you saw the new tier of WoW raid gear and thought, damn I can't wait to get that? With the mod system update in 1.2 this whole issue is alleviated. I think if you actually took an objective look at the T2 armors you'd find a few pieces on each set that would look great when combined with other pieces. Your funny. All the 20+ people in my guild have said they look like crap and hate the end game gears in this game. And i'm pretty sure it's the same in most guilds.What people like you fails to understand this is not wow. Says star wars on the game box.And guess what, players want to look like they belong in the star wars universe. The end game gear in this game look like garbage, face the facts. Edited March 26, 2012 by Lord_Karsk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOGFelix Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 What kind of dev feedback are you looking to get? "We spent hundreds of hours designing these sets, but since some people don't like them we'll scrap it all and go back to the drawing board." ?? They can't make everyone happy, and they know what they're doing. When was the last time you saw the new tier of WoW raid gear and thought, damn I can't wait to get that? With the mod system update in 1.2 this whole issue is alleviated. I think if you actually took an objective look at the T2 armors you'd find a few pieces on each set that would look great when combined with other pieces. a) Something along those lines, yes. b) Never played wow... for a reason. This is Star Wars, not Star Wow. more pew pew, less pandas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pangwl Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 your costume designer for the republic side needs to be fired, or at least needs a wake up call? Give us his/ her twitter account, and we can surely help you send the msg to him/her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djkalman Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 What kind of dev feedback are you looking to get? "We spent hundreds of hours designing these sets, but since some people don't like them we'll scrap it all and go back to the drawing board." ?? They can't make everyone happy, and they know what they're doing. When was the last time you saw the new tier of WoW raid gear and thought, damn I can't wait to get that? With the mod system update in 1.2 this whole issue is alleviated. I think if you actually took an objective look at the T2 armors you'd find a few pieces on each set that would look great when combined with other pieces. Epic facepalm.... seems your are not a Star Wars fan.... ur just a wow fan... this is not wow, WoW has not done movies, nor the amount of toys, video games, books, collectibles, etc... SW is a universe, we like to feel we are in that universe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cailen Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 With the mod system update in 1.2 this whole issue is alleviated. alleviated my ***, I wear it for set bonuses. If we were to take out mods and put it in other gear I won't get the same bonuses... if set bonuses were transferable then yes it would be alleviated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synystar Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 (edited) So this is what i think: -Knights like scuba diving in the 50s? -Trooper is advanced maybe... couple thousand years, but other than that, looking like you came directly out of clone wars. -Smugglers when did you get a sand person to design your outfit? -Sage, lol, when are you going to get on your knees for me? -Agent, Actually not bad other than you look like your advertising cheerios. -Warrior, Meh, better than the current but still, looks like a set i've seen from wow.... -Sorcerer, Looks like a set out of a familiar game...D3? -Bh not bad Sorry, only one looks like its out of star wars, and that would be trooper, clone wars to be exact. I don't wanna play Star wow. I wan't Star wars. Nuff said, certain that this theme-park ticket is one i wish i never bought, think i'm going to leave before the clowns come. Edited March 26, 2012 by Synystar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tattum Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 alleviated my ***, I wear it for set bonuses. If we were to take out mods and put it in other gear I won't get the same bonuses... if set bonuses were transferable then yes it would be alleviated. they are. along with the armoring.. but people expect to see some epix epix gear for the end game.. not something they were leveling up with... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOGFelix Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 they are. along with the armoring.. but people expect to see some epix epix gear for the end game.. not something they were leveling up with... Make sure you add the part behind the big azz * Only for the NEW armor sets, NOT for the old sets in the game now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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