EliteSeraph Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Its the sorcs/sages. Its well known that the hybrid spec allows them unprecedented flexibility, durability, and damage potential. And its pretty clear that bioware has no intention of changing them. Every day I see more and more of them in pvp, and I can't really blame people for rerolling. I'm disgusted. I'm a very solid PVPer with my Vanguard. I often top the charts in damage done, objectives, and protection values. I do so because I understand my class and other classes, as well as being a team player. But I can not count how many matches have been decided by who had more sorcs/sages. I've seen what that class can do in the hands of a skilled player. Making full use of terrain, LOS, their heals, CC, bubble, and damage. My Vanguard has a lot of tools, but those guys make me look and feel like I'm playing with one hand tied behind my back. Yes this is a QQ post. I don't care if you want to come in here and troll me or not. That class is broken and I can't stand it anymore. GW2 can't come soon enough. Had high hopes for this game, both in PVP and all the rest, but it just falls short. No, I won't be responding to this message. Bioware/EA, you lost my business. A drop in a bucket in the middle of a desert, so I know you don't care. But every little bit counts. /disgusted/endrant/unsubbed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KekoSplit Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 ... My Vanguard has a lot of tools, but those guys make me look and feel like I'm playing with one hand tied behind my back. ... /disgusted /endrant /unsubbed It's more like both hands tied behind your back, your legs chopped off, knocked down on the ground, whimpering. Tbh same thing against Jedi Guardians and Sentinels... Beeing CCed for the 75% of the time fighting someone who also straight outdamages you is...retarded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tryllerik Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Every class is OP in the right hands... Sick of these OP threads!!! If you pug you die get used to it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drachdhar Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Sentinels? Dont they have the same CC as Marauders, whcih would be close to none compared to every other class in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrotanaThrall Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Its the sorcs/sages. Its well known that the hybrid spec allows them unprecedented flexibility, durability, and damage potential. And its pretty clear that bioware has no intention of changing them. Every day I see more and more of them in pvp, and I can't really blame people for rerolling. I'm disgusted. I'm a very solid PVPer with my Vanguard. I often top the charts in damage done, objectives, and protection values. I do so because I understand my class and other classes, as well as being a team player. But I can not count how many matches have been decided by who had more sorcs/sages. I've seen what that class can do in the hands of a skilled player. Making full use of terrain, LOS, their heals, CC, bubble, and damage. My Vanguard has a lot of tools, but those guys make me look and feel like I'm playing with one hand tied behind my back. Yes this is a QQ post. I don't care if you want to come in here and troll me or not. That class is broken and I can't stand it anymore. GW2 can't come soon enough. Had high hopes for this game, both in PVP and all the rest, but it just falls short. No, I won't be responding to this message. Bioware/EA, you lost my business. A drop in a bucket in the middle of a desert, so I know you don't care. But every little bit counts. /disgusted /endrant /unsubbed I hear alot of Crying. I kill Sages and Sorcs ALL DAY LONG. I tear them apart over and over and over again in every WZ I play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmuerto Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 I feel your pain..however since lvl 40 and learning how to play a bit my scoundrel (see scoundrels are utter rubbish and should be buffed/not played .25 page thread recently) does just fine, he don't top the damage charts often because he doesn't run around spamming pointless and healed aoe damage, but he's up there in the top 3 more often than not. I know the scoundrel for what it is and enjoy the playstyle. Sorcs are early bloomers and appear to be doing great easily but that's from pretty much people not co-ordinating and letting them run riot. Its frustrating but every class should be played differently, when you know what that way is, things don't seem so drastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beyou Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Balancing is arround open world pvp not warzones.Enough said. /closethread Ps: you should start a new qq thread about huttball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moosimoo Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 I often top the charts in damage done, objectives, and protection values. Everyone seems to be top of all charts except me. Am I speshul? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidpop Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 PvP blows hard in this game, but what can you expect then they hire the people they did to do the pvp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manigma Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Okay, well I enjoy PVP in this game, I admit it needs some more variety in maps and group sizes but otherwise still fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finreal Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 get used to it! Or stop playing, like 50% of x-fire users have. Your demands are powerless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finreal Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Balancing is arround open world pvp not warzones. Enough said. /closethread /re-open thread BioWare have just announced that Open World PvP has been suspended as of 1.2. Time to temp re-balance the classes, I'm afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NevesNET Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Another nerf this, QQ, I unsubbed post... how refreshing! Can I have you stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerobounds Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 There are way too many of these threads. He's basically right though, we played 5 pre made matches last night, win on voidstar, win on huttball 5-1 and then got stuck vs a premade sorc group with various specs.... It was very stupid. It wasn't a stomp fest where we got killed non stop but it was basically impossible to get the ball and score and we lost 3 in a row vs the same premade group. The majority of us on the team had BM gear. It's just so frustrating to basically be up against the same class x6 all spec'd different and have absolutely zero need for any other class support. Just sorcs. Rolling. All day. With good players its noticeably harder to play vs a pack of sorcs than it is against a mixed class team. It doesn't seem to be much of a problem in Voidstar / Alderaan but they're like mutant cyborg tactical locusts in huttball with bubble, sprint, roots, stuns and everything. If you're not getting maimed by the lightning ball stuns and dps then you're getting rooted and out sprinted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Karsk Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 (edited) BioWare favorite class will never be nerft. Me i find it harder to play agains assassins but thats just me. And yeah OP will see you in GW2 Edited March 2, 2012 by Lord_Karsk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexdaphnis Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 There are way too many of these threads. He's basically right though, we played 5 pre made matches last night, win on voidstar, win on huttball 5-1 and then got stuck vs a premade sorc group with various specs.... It was very stupid. It wasn't a stomp fest where we got killed non stop but it was basically impossible to get the ball and score and we lost 3 in a row vs the same premade group. The majority of us on the team had BM gear. It's just so frustrating to basically be up against the same class x6 all spec'd different and have absolutely zero need for any other class support. Just sorcs. Rolling. All day. With good players its noticeably harder to play vs a pack of sorcs than it is against a mixed class team. It doesn't seem to be much of a problem in Voidstar / Alderaan but they're like mutant cyborg tactical locusts in huttball with bubble, sprint, roots, stuns and everything. If you're not getting maimed by the lightning ball stuns and dps then you're getting rooted and out sprinted. yep +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aishiki Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Vanguards/powertech are so OP Mara/sentinel are so OP Juggs/guardian are so OP NERF THEM!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbonated Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 (edited) I'm a valor 51 marauder. I wear pve gear. I chop sorcs/sages to bits. I honestly have no problems with sorcs. Edited March 2, 2012 by Carbonated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faeldawn Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 I'm a valor 51 marauder. I wear pve gear. I chop sorcs/sages to bits. I honestly have no problems with sorcs. Then your either fighting badly specced, badly played or badly geared sorcs/sages. A good sorc/sage will simply outlast your ungeared damage and kill you 1v1, there really isn't much you can do about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirosusan Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Love the GW2 mentions everywhere, that game is gonna suck with all the whines aboard lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhealThar Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Love the GW2 mentions everywhere, that game is gonna suck with all the whines aboard lol Yeah, I was kind of hoping players like this would stick clear of GW2. Gonna suck for the OP when he can't just steamroll people based on gear and he'll actually realize he isn't good at pvp at all. lol @ sorcs being overpowered, please. It's even more hilarious that he unsubbed because of it LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobkeen Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Sorcs/sages individually are not a problem. Any decent dps should be able to take them down, tanks may find they are simply outlasted. The problem, if anything is the sheer number of them and the utility they bring. Huttball yesterday, 4 scoundrels on our side, 4 sorcs on theirs, lost 6-0. It getting to the point that you can tell whether or not you'll win depending on the number of sorcs/sages on each team. Warzones are often won by the balance of classes on each team and i'm seeing more and more teams of 4-6 sorcs everyday, if nothing else, it's getting a bit boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raansu Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 (edited) It's more like both hands tied behind your back, your legs chopped off, knocked down on the ground, whimpering. Tbh same thing against Jedi Guardians and Sentinels... Beeing CCed for the 75% of the time fighting someone who also straight outdamages you is...retarded. hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha *catches breath and wipes tears from eyes* Dude...we have force stasis thats channeled for 4 seconds (casted by tank spec guardians) and Awe thats a 6 second stun that breaks on hit...And force leap which only prevents movement for a whopping 2 seconds... We cannot chain CC anyone. Chances are you were being stunned by multiple people. Edited March 2, 2012 by Raansu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drekel Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 I play both a Vanguard(shield spec) & a sorcerer(hybrid), all i do is pvp with them. The vanguard has just as much utility and 100% more surviveability than the sorcerer. You complain about all the stuff the Sorcerer has but if they didnt they would just be 5 sec free kills, once any melee class is on them and they dont have any cool downs their as good as dead. So yes they have to pop a bubble (which isnt as op as you all think, their not paladin bubbles), stun and run away, any noob sorc that stands and fights any melee in melee range will be cut to shreads. When im on my vanguard i see Sorcerers as a mild annoyance nothing more, if one of them is stupid enough to get close then they die. Rather than moan just learn how to counter them, if they pop their cds and run off ignore them and focus on objectives or kill some one else. QQ is for lazy people who cba to work out how to beat another class without asking them to be nerfed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expostar Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Every class is OP in the right hands... Sick of these OP threads!!! If you pug you die get used to it! Absolutely true! Need more pew pew and less QQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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