vimm Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Veela is less populated already than SWG servers were after eight and a half years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agemnon Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Between the excellent stealth detection mobs have, the need to keep track of too many keybinds, and being knocked off my mount too easily I felt like quitting many times too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FXHell Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 I felt like quitting many times too. Yes, exactly this. This game gives me so many reasons where i think i should quit like no other game ever before. I've already been unsubscribed for more than 30 days. Have to mention that the main reason for this are the extremely performance problems i have in warzones and my main reason to play this game was PVP. But also many other problems i'm tired of talking about. The game for itself is not that bad. I like it, but it simply offers nothing special. When i heard the news about TOR the last 2-3 years i thought this game will be fantastic and innovative and a mmo revolution. But it's just not the game i have awaited... if anything better comes out, i'll switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niconogood Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 (edited) Of course the population is dropping (contrary to what the 2008/2009 fanbois will tell you), and when gw2/tera/secret world/d3/etc are out and it will plummet even further. you'd have to be brain dead to not notice the population decreasing: - server queues are gone - most servers are light/std now instead of full/very heavy - fleets are <150 players now instead of 230+ - wz queues taking longer to pop - fp groups harder to find - less items on markets - most friends in the friends list are "offline" - where have all out guildies gone? - etc If they actually had 2 million subscribers just after launch when all the servers had queues and we had 230+ on the fleet in prime times i'd say it's pretty obvious we've already lost at least 1/3 of those 2 million subscribers, probably closer to half. the ea quarterly shareholder statement in may will reveal the truth, they can't lie in that. On what server do fleet have 150 players? We have about 15-20 on average. Game dying.. Yes. When newer titles appear the subscriptionloss will be unrecoverable. All that will remain is a fanboi hardcore. Storyline through leveling not too bad. Endgame and PvP, not given ANY thought. Ilum is the single worst PvP experience I have had in any game to date. Edited March 16, 2012 by Niconogood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaipyr Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 That's because they would have included all of it at launch. Most fictional statement in this thread. Bravo. EVERY MMO LAUNCHES HALF FINISHED. WAR? Missing crap (endgame especially) AoC? Missing crap (endgame especially) Aion AT LAUNCH? buggy mess of a korean grinder missing 80% of the content Etc etc. Sorry, but you're just comparing this whether conciously or subconciously to an MMO that has been out 7+ years rather than how it was AT LAUNCH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneheartway Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 (edited) "EVERY MMO LAUNCHES HALF FINISHED." Rift was the best launch of an MMO I have seen EVER. Hard to say it is Half finished. SWTOR is dying. It is on life support. But someone needs to be considering pulling the plug. Unsubbed and not planning on looking back. Edited March 18, 2012 by oneheartway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsubodia Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 its still far to early in the games life to say. just rolled a rep on my server and no tyhon alone there is 54 online right now. and the imperial fleet on friday night had two instances runnning there was that many online. maybee time bioware looked at consolidating servers (sorry for spelling errors. cba correcting them as im on phone) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealAeiouy Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Of course the population is dropping (contrary to what the 2008/2009 fanbois will tell you), and when gw2/tera/secret world/d3/etc are out and it will plummet even further. you'd have to be brain dead to not notice the population decreasing: - server queues are gone - most servers are light/std now instead of full/very heavy - fleets are <150 players now instead of 230+ - wz queues taking longer to pop - fp groups harder to find - less items on markets - most friends in the friends list are "offline" - where have all out guildies gone? - etc If they actually had 2 million subscribers just after launch when all the servers had queues and we had 230+ on the fleet in prime times i'd say it's pretty obvious we've already lost at least 1/3 of those 2 million subscribers, probably closer to half. the ea quarterly shareholder statement in may will reveal the truth, they can't lie in that. Actually the population is large and steady. When a game launches or a new expansion comes out people play a lot more. For a new game this means 2-3x as much over the first month or so. This means even if the player base didn't lose a single player it would seek like half the players left. This has been proven throughout the history of mmogs. Also 1.2 is one of the best early patches for any mmog I have seen and I think it will kick up the average playtime. Swtor had the most successful mmog launch in north American history and continues to break the records for second month and third month populations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dego_Locc Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 (edited) Yes the game does seem less active, on most servers, seems every week the fleet numbers drop, hell on my server, I'm lucky to see 60 ppl on the fleet, on fri, or sat night prime time, eastern time. They might have 1.7 million subs, or w/e, but it doesn't seem like anyone is really logged in or playing. Edited March 18, 2012 by Dego_Locc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesmcalli Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Actually the population is large and steady. When a game launches or a new expansion comes out people play a lot more. For a new game this means 2-3x as much over the first month or so. This means even if the player base didn't lose a single player it would seek like half the players left. This has been proven throughout the history of mmogs. Also 1.2 is one of the best early patches for any mmog I have seen and I think it will kick up the average playtime. Swtor had the most successful mmog launch in north American history and continues to break the records for second month and third month populations. The only reason this game has done as well as it has thus far is because it's Star Wars. If it was "Random Sci-Fi MMO Number 23415 by Bioware" it would have tanked already. As far as totally new games, I'd agree with previous posters and say Rift had a much better showing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardNoggin Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 I play on a PvP realm and figured everyone was waiting on 1.2 or was leveling. The reason I say there waiting for 1.2 is because of the new gear set ect. The other thing is they might be leveling alts to try to get as many to 50 as they can. From what I read they are selling chamion equivalant pvp gear for credits in 1.2 to help people bridge the gear gap better. BM gear is only a little bit better than Champion so I didnt feel like it was worth the time investment to farm the BM gear till patch and since Champion is being sold for credits in 1.2 that will be a waste of time to farm also. So if you PvP your time is probably best spent till patch lvling alts so you can gear em out when champ equivalant gear comes. Once rated WZ's come and some of this other stuff I think we will see people come back or appear from their alts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dego_Locc Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 The only reason this game has done as well as it has thus far is because it's Star Wars. If it was "Random Sci-Fi MMO Number 23415 by Bioware" it would have tanked already. As far as totally new games, I'd agree with previous posters and say Rift had a much better showing. Agreed, and I love star wars, but this game is lacking content, even for an MMO vanilla launch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bionamaster Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Anyone else look at the european server status? Most are standard, some are heavy, only one is light. The game is probably getting a lot of transfers right now. The game is making money off various places. Doesn't mean it's losing money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pogmahone Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 There are way to many us servers. The server we are on went from 100 players on fleet down to 30 on average. I went on other planets at peak times to see if they were populated and nope. A few good guilds have already left our server to go to something more populated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trooperzslash Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 My server never drops below standard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badlander Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 I think part of the problem is people are just plain burnt out on mmo's period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rzrknight Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 It's certainly not growing.... Hum well i agree to this. My server population only goes down and ic less and less of the old players on. This game never had the need for the amount of servers it created , the player base is not going to grown so much , they just should begin the damm server merges and it would get ... less apparent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anaz Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 If a game like STO can do okay for 2 years on a pay to play model with a much smaller dev company behind it, (30 employees) and much less money backing it then TOR has nothing to worry about. Not to mention, SWTOR is almost superior in every conceivable way to STO even in its current form. STO has a significant lack of content on the federation side and feels very much like a grind even with the large decrease in XP to level. The Klingons are still only half built as a faction even after 2 years of development and are still very grindy and both factions are suffering from a lack of end game content. I think a very understated problem with SWTOR is the lack of a trial. They say when running a store getting them in the front door is half the battle. BW are currently charging people 40-50 euro just for people to TRY to see if they like the game, which I think is a significant deterrent in getting new players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aspectsofwar Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 yes it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricktur Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 merge servers fix ilum add more wz's, 3 maps is pathetic by anyone's standards. ok im going to go ahead and say that i am a bioware and SW FANBOI out the wazooh. BUT the above quote is the TRUTH. think about multi player games, there is at least 8 multi player maps at launch, AT LEAST EIGHT. we got three, that got boring in beta. merge servers! yes please and idk whats wrong with ilum but Eyuke seems to know what he's talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonJW Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 (edited) At the longest, I may stick around til Fall when next Lotro expansion is released. But that's a stretch, I see myself leaving swtor a lot sooner. Edited March 24, 2012 by JonJW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warkat Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 they need server mergers there was no need for 100 servers...never is.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
celebrei Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 they need server mergers there was no need for 100 servers...never is.. In their arrogance they thought they could fill all the servers with players and now when they were proven wrong their pride wont let them admit it. faith in their game misplaced maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nategray Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 Yes it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
celebrei Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 Yes it is. Twilight is upon this game. Eternal sleep yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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