MuNieK Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 (edited) Are you testing players patience? How long it might take to fix freaking camera in game? 1. turn off camera auto-follow which makes us loose controll of what we see and what we want to see. It basically steals controll from player for absolutely no freaking reason, renders mouseovering/targetting on the move anything that is not in front of us impossible, missplace mice on mousepads and succesfully disorient players for a brief moment. 2. disable camera movement smoothing. This stuff is like implementing hotbar auto-hide feature... It might look nice, but its a horrid idea in practise. Camera movement smoothing puts a barrier between player controll and the game. There is a reason why old school, great players will call mouse smoothing a sacrilege, Bioware... >.< I thought to be a game developer you should be player aswell - seems i have been wrong. + this camera smoothing causing wierd, awkward, camera bug , which randomly change its facing for no reason to some random point also succesfully disorienting players and make the struggle for camera controll continue... Controll over camera should be solid, comfortable, simple. Stop reinventing the wheel cause it doesnt ends well. And if you feel creative and cant resist, then fix the stif animations like inquisitor's lighting strike casting animation or sith warrior's channel hatred animation... And if you will feel the energy still bursting out of you, then double check if your voiceovers are properly placed, cause i have seen a male Zabrak on the Empire Fleet that have female voice... Thank you. edit: new bug reproduction video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIeQchs3UFU Edited March 4, 2012 by MuNieK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnholliday Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Agree. I flat hate the auto camera back to front. If I could turn it off I would've already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoxiousAlby Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Are you testing players patience? How long it might take to fix freaking camera in game? 1. turn off camera auto-follow which makes us loose controll of what we see and what we want to see. It basically steals controll from player for absolutely no freaking reason, renders mouseovering/targetting on the move anything that is not in front of us impossible, missplace mice on mousepads and succesfully disorient players for a brief moment. 2. disable camera movement smoothing. This stuff is like implementing hotbar auto-hide feature... It might look nice, but its a horrid idea in practise. Camera movement smoothing puts a barrier between player controll and the game. There is a reason why old school, great players will call mouse smoothing a sacrilege, Bioware... >.< I thought to be a game developer you should be player aswell - seems i have been wrong. + this camera smoothing causing wierd, awkward camera bugging, which randomly change its facing for no reason to some random point also succesfully disorienting players and make the struggle for camera controll continue... Controll over camera should be solid, comfortable, simple. Stop reinventing the wheel cause it doesnt ends well. And if you feel creative and cant resist, then fix the stif animations like inquisitor's lighting strike casting animation or sith warrior's channel hatred animation... Thank you. Please substitute "we" with "I" and for me it is hardly game breaking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jizazi Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 This is actually an issue I would like to see reworked. The max zoom out key is getting worn down and the auto front face seems unnecessary for users. Please substitute "we" with "I" and for me it is hardly game breaking Well thought out contribution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlindWitness Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 agreed the camera can be annoying, too often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaphik Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Who's this "we" you're talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hung_H Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Have you guys tried to make the camera zoom out further?? mines at about 35%. It looks so much nicer. Sometimes it screws up though and a little roll of the mouse wheel fixes it. IT makes you feel like your watching an actual battle rather than clicking something in first person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoxiousAlby Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Oh just stop trolling. I may as well write about me and my alter ego. If you are nto included in "we" stop begging for attention. I dont care who loves the bugged, broken, idiotic features. Im more than sure every decent player finds them disturbing. People like you might even play first person shooters on laptops' touchpads and call it hardly gamebreaking for them. Your opinion however is really irrelevant in that case. There you go again, "every decent player", "bugged, broken, idiotic feature" Actually my opinion is as relevant as yours, truth is if this is the greatest complaint you have in the game then BW must be doing a pretty good job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazzello Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 (edited) Totally agree with the OP. Most noticeable annoyances every time i log in. Edited February 8, 2012 by Azazzello Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baracca Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 lol like the alien in the VIP area with the British accent? it just doesn't fit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuNieK Posted February 8, 2012 Author Share Posted February 8, 2012 (edited) NoxiousAlby, since you really fail to understund, and my reply was taken as "rude" even tho imo you failed to provoke me to be rude i will explain it to you differently. Cant expect everyone to simply understund simple sentences, can I? Here i go: "We" in this thread applies to everyone who is being disturbed by those awkward features. Is it more clear for you now? Can you comprehend? Even if you still dont comprehend, no - i will not change "we" for "I" just cause its to hard lecture for you. There you go again, "every decent player", "bugged, broken, idiotic feature" Actually my opinion is as relevant as yours, truth is if this is the greatest complaint you have in the game then BW must be doing a pretty good job. No, its just feature that can be fixed quickest and with least effort, due to just removing unneccesary, problematic code (auto-follow and smoothing). I didnt expect you to comprehend that so you can just move along to some other thread in search of something easier to understund. Sorry. Edited February 8, 2012 by MuNieK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharagonIGN Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 (edited) Who's this "we" you're talking about? That's everybody with a lick of gosh darn sense. Actually my opinion is as relevant as yours, I assure you, it isn't. truth is if this is the greatest complaint you have in the game then BW must be doing a pretty good job. I assure you, it isn't. Edited February 8, 2012 by CharagonIGN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcander Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Agree with OP. Major problems with these issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valeena Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Agree. I flat hate the auto camera back to front. If I could turn it off I would've already This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gulthaw Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 I though it was my mouse, I discovered then it is the game. I play almost 90% with right click pressed, I even move the character as if I was playing a FPS! But sometimes (too many) the game goes nuts and all of a sudden I'm looking at the ground or I turned around or... ¬¬U Died too many times cause of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haberman Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 (edited) I Despise the camera auto-rotate. Need ... free ... camera ... It breaks how I play these games. Edited February 8, 2012 by haberman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeoHTime Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 2. disable camera movement smoothing. Yea that mouse smoothing is obnoxious, very first thing i noticed the first second i took control of my character at the launch of the game "*** is up with this camera". Can we add to those 2 issues, zoomed out camera with pivot enabled frequently gets stuck in mid air looking at the horizon about 20 meters above your character, and zoomed out camera without pivot enabled stubbornly refuses to zoom back out to the selected distance every time terrain forces it to pull in. The camera zoom in/out function should set a fixed distance in game units that the camera should continually return to, quickly, whenever it has to move in for whatever reason. While we're at it, why on earth is the sensitivity of camera movement tied to your framerate? Which genius thought that up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nabrass Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 (edited) Please substitute "we" with "I" and for me it is hardly game breaking Besides yourself there is only 1 other person in this thread that see this as a non-issue while everyone else hates it, "we" works. Edited February 8, 2012 by nabrass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFieryBalrog Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Actually my opinion is as relevant as yours Actually, it isn't. His is an educated, informed opinion. Yours appears to be anything but. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFieryBalrog Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 I also want to add that turning off auto-follow is next to no work and makes the game 100% more playable for many of us. The fact that it's been a month and a half- and that many, many people reported this in beta- and the issue is still not fixed just displays a monumental cluelessness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areto Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 II was fine with it until I started healing wz's , omg so annoying. The tab targeting could use a bit of work too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeacefulViolence Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Bioware needs to step their game up, even if it means taking down servers more than once a week we gotta get these damn bug fixes out ASAP do not let this become WARHAMMER or AoC or something like that Bioware, i know your team has mythic members on it, ask them this: Have you learned from your mistakes with Warhammer? Lets hope they answer yes to that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harleyz Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Please substitute "we" with "I" and for me it is hardly game breaking And i bet youre terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuNieK Posted February 8, 2012 Author Share Posted February 8, 2012 ...i know your team has mythic members on it, ask them this: Have you learned from your mistakes with Warhammer? Lets hope they answer yes to that one. Im really worried about that answer too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJMadcat Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Who's this "we" you're talking about? I am part of that "we" and so are many others, apart from unable to cofigure a proper UI and combat logs, this camera thing is very high on my hate list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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