Sparklehorse Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Seems if we agree with the OP's logic, the vast majority of user scores on other sites is 8 or above so therefore... game is great! Thanks for the positive post OP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartanik Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Here is a more accurate review guys: Maybe that will give you an idea of just how bad this game is. LOl you know i play the game i dont need to wacth video to know if the game is bad or good.... besides is subjective good? bad? what gives if im having fun i woulndt care. Has i dont realy care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maestrodomus Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 I'm guessing you don't know **** about statistics, but there's nothing random or reliable about 1,500 people on that site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparklehorse Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 No, but it gives me an idea about who's doing the raging. Hahaha. Spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nvoid Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 There is a real theorem that a random variable will reflect its underlying probability over a very large sample. In this case, we're using Metacritic's user rating of 5.9: http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/star-wars-the-old-republic/user-reviews Putting 1500 random gamers to the test with SWTOR for a month and have them rate it on a scale of 1-10. You will very likely come up with an accurate measure of the game's worth based on that many reviews. That is what we have here and that is why user reviews are far more powerful and accurate than the skewed 'paid' reviews you'll see from sites like IGN, Gamespot, etc. Swtor's real score (I think its a bit high): 5.9 You can always enjoy this visual representation of the above score as well: I think it's a bit high as well. Overall it shoulda got a 2/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roysten Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Would have thought all this silly doom stuff would have stopped by now it normaly does on forums after the resub. mark is passed. I suppose it could be a measure of success that folks are still desperately trying to convince me that liking the game is uncool. Oh well back to the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VicSkimmr Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Would have thought all this silly doom stuff would have stopped by now it normaly does on forums after the resub. mark is passed. I suppose it could be a measure of success that folks are still desperately trying to convince me that liking the game is uncool. Oh well back to the game. Probably due to people buying 3 month subs and needing to find a place to vent. Or they're just masochists. Or they're just stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarjarloves Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 and the several hundred thousend who stopped playing, unsubbed and never voted. not according to the 1.7 million active subscribers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobnobb Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 I have created a thread which discusses this in more detail with actual empirical evidence behind it. http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=259406 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimudthesecond Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 u know they talked about this a few weeks back and its so low because lots of people put 1... I'd personally say 7.5 Just me though. Maybe like 8 with expansions,ect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balrizangor Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 I like the game and thats all that matters. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drallbait Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 LOL, this is a great example of the Cowboy statistical "analysis" our society is enamored with these days. I'm sure you could prove the World is Flat with metacritic as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malefactor Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 not according to the 1.7 million active subscribers. ^This. How's that crow tasting OP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blotter Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 (edited) There is a real theorem that a random variable will reflect its underlying probability over a very large sample. In this case, we're using Metacritic's user rating of 5.9: http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/star-wars-the-old-republic/user-reviews Putting 1500 random gamers to the test with SWTOR for a month and have them rate it on a scale of 1-10. You will very likely come up with an accurate measure of the game's worth based on that many reviews. That is what we have here and that is why user reviews are far more powerful and accurate than the skewed 'paid' reviews you'll see from sites like IGN, Gamespot, etc. Swtor's real score (I think its a bit high): 5.9 You can always enjoy this visual representation of the above score as well: That's a RANDOM variable and ASSUMES people are being honest. As to both, people very clearly go to Metacritic with an agenda and this includes trolls who are fanboys for other games and trolls who are there to try to create good and.or bad press about specific games for their employer. Gamespot has 2375 user reviews with an average of 8.6. Gonna tell me why Metacritic is more reliable than that despite the much much larger SAMPLE SIZE at Gamespot? How about you tell us why we should believe Metacritic, which is posting an obvious OUTLIER when you look at the 8-8.5 average the game is getting across the board on game review sites (both from the editorial reviewer and from reader votes). Pro tip: Don't pretend to throw around statistics knowledge while ignoring the basics of statistics and cherry picking your stats. Edited February 2, 2012 by Blotter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTijger Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 (edited) Whatever, WoW Cataclysm is listed at 5.2 and how many millions did that sell again? Exactly. If you look closely at the review scores you'll also notice that the number of positive reviews are much higher, roughly 50%, than the negative. Edited February 2, 2012 by MrTijger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotalKitty Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 I like the game and thats all that matters. Yet your forum signature indicates otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naktagala Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 not according to the 1.7 million active subscribers. 2+ million sold(+ how many exactly). 1.7 million active, where are the 300 000+ Come and look at this number, 1.7 million, in 6 months time, sadly I think it will be much smaller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTijger Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 2+ million sold(+ how many exactly). 1.7 million active, where are the 300 000+ Come and look at this number, 1.7 million, in 6 months time, sadly I think it will be much smaller. Why is that an issue? 500.000 would be profitable, a million would be better than any Western MMO out there besides WoW. I honestly dont see the issue here, also, if the game doesnt progress as I like I'll move on, its just a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asuka Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Metacritic is useless. This^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediMasterRyanW Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 I went and took all the data from the rating compilation thread here http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=2419752#post2419752 and took a weighted average. The final tally was 7.9/10, from over 6400 reviewers on 17 sites. For those of you who care about/want to discuss what other people think of the game, this is a more accurate number to work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larko- Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Good job op. Finding a random website in the bowels of the internet that reflects your opinion must have taken some time out of your busy troll schedule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarjarloves Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 2+ million sold(+ how many exactly). 1.7 million active, where are the 300 000+ Come and look at this number, 1.7 million, in 6 months time, sadly I think it will be much smaller. 300k for first month loss. ie 15% only left after the first month? That is amazing. WAR AoC, and DCUO had something like almost a 50% drop of players in the first month. Mark my words though Feburary will see another drop but March will be an increase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatEski Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Lies, damned lies, and statistics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanscholo Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Yes but sampling isnt random at all is it. Thats the point that has been made MANY times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadlyjackal Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 1400 randoms vs 1.7 million active subscribers from 2 million copies sold. Sorry your dodgy poll website is a poor reflection indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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