arteous Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Seriously. I would really wish there was a ranking system for huttball teams kind of like soccer or american football leauges. I think the devs knew there would be some kind of population imbalance (even wow suffers from it for the past 7 years) and this was a great solution so people could still get pvp matches in without having to sit in ques endlessly. It might need a few tweaks here and there *dropping ball on certain circumstances* but in the end it's fun. The only time i've found it aggravating is when the entire team or most of it is sorcerors and they can litteraly chain speedball it across the room. hence dropping when getting some run buff. but other than that i'm having a blast with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sykologist Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Seriously. I would really wish there was a ranking system for huttball teams kind of like soccer or american football leauges. I think the devs knew there would be some kind of population imbalance (even wow suffers from it for the past 7 years) and this was a great solution so people could still get pvp matches in without having to sit in ques endlessly. It might need a few tweaks here and there *dropping ball on certain circumstances* but in the end it's fun. The only time i've found it aggravating is when the entire team or most of it is sorcerors and they can litteraly chain speedball it across the room. hence dropping when getting some run buff. but other than that i'm having a blast with it. Agreed. I'm always happy when Huttball pops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ealthan Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 yeah its awesome when your team tries and it would be even more awesome if you got objective points for playing the game, i.e scoring a goal, I've been in a game where I've scored three times made numerous passes, intercepts and killed the enemy ball carrier a few times yet only received 300 or so objective points, that's fubar in my honest opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arteous Posted January 27, 2012 Author Share Posted January 27, 2012 yeah its awesome when your team tries and it would be even more awesome if you got objective points for playing the game, i.e scoring a goal, I've been in a game where I've scored three times made numerous passes, intercepts and killed the enemy ball carrier a few times yet only received 300 or so objective points, that's fubar in my honest opinion. giving bonuses for scoring really would end up detracting from the game because the honor whores will refuse to pass the ball and would rather die with the ball because "they want to score". you do get defender points for protecting the ball carrier and i think you get objective points for killing ball carriers. (you should anyways) and healing your ball carrier should count aslo for that. Course that can turn into another minigame in huttabll me and my premades play. 1. pick enemy player 2. pass him the ball on purpose 3. kill the ball carrier. 4. ??? 5. profit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lJustAlexl Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 (edited) Hear, hear. Edited January 27, 2012 by lJustAlexl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salamanderx Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I didnt like the idea of it at first but now I've come to love it. Its quite innovative. Its like bloodbowl with ramps and hazards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarimRune Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I didnt like the idea of it at first but now I've come to love it. Its quite innovative. Its like bloodbowl with ramps and hazards. This. And now that I understand how you throw...I'm sure I'll do even better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarkahorus Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 It is the single most innovative pvp minigame since a long time in MMo's. The best thing is that there are very many combinations + huge luck factor that may determine victory or loosing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mltdwn Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 giving bonuses for scoring really would end up detracting from the game because the honor whores will refuse to pass the ball and would rather die with the ball because "they want to score". you do get defender points for protecting the ball carrier and i think you get objective points for killing ball carriers. (you should anyways) and healing your ball carrier should count aslo for that. Course that can turn into another minigame in huttabll me and my premades play. 1. pick enemy player 2. pass him the ball on purpose 3. kill the ball carrier. 4. ??? 5. profit! Well the problem is that once you become the ball carrier you become the objective and thus lose the ability to gain any "objective" points. They do need to fix that. it is more beneficial to guard/slaughter the ball carrier than it is to be the ball carrier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrunchyGremlin Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Yeah some rewards tinkering or forget that and add a ladder system with teams and drafts. make a complete game out of it. but its fun as it is and that is all that really counts. I have made 3 goals so far and passed directly for 2. At least i think. Having those stats would be nice. Love to see a list of top hutball objective point earners outside of the instance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iridor Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Well the problem is that once you become the ball carrier you become the objective and thus lose the ability to gain any "objective" points. They do need to fix that. it is more beneficial to guard/slaughter the ball carrier than it is to be the ball carrier. Actually this is fine. The point of Huttball isn't to hold the ball, it's to pass the ball. So encouraging people to pass it would be a good thing... encouraging people to hold on to the ball because they want the points for being ball carrier probably isn't a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tourne Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Huttball is well thought out for competition...I think it is THE best map ever for Premmies to really show teamwork. However, it SUCKS to have no other option when you just aren't in the mood...I love cake- but I'm not going to eat it for breakfast, lunch and dinner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabbathius Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Huttball, like everything else, is good when taken in moderation. It also depends on the class you play. When I queue on my Marauder and Huttball pops, I cry because much like the ball I will be punted all over the playing field. But when it pops and I'm on my Sorcerer, I just know it'll be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthxRage Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 +1 BEST WAZRZONE EVER I hope they plan to give us more huttball maps and the ability to observe so pro gamers can take this awesome new esport and run with it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitaant Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Well the problem is that once you become the ball carrier you become the objective and thus lose the ability to gain any "objective" points. They do need to fix that. it is more beneficial to guard/slaughter the ball carrier than it is to be the ball carrier. Yeah. I feel like the fat kid who got thrown the football and has no idea what to do with it while the whole team comes charging in for a takedown. I prefer supporting the ball handlers or killing the guys trying to kill my ball handler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreadspectre Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I actually look forward to Huttball now. It's the only map where melee can be a real advatange. Civil wars is 2nd, Voidstar is the worst map ever. I hate it with a passion and it favors range way too much. It is so easy to defend with ranged especiall with sorcs/sages spamming instant cast dots. Attacking can also be easier as you pick off anyone at the door(like myself) because I only have 2 ranged abilities to actually stop a door cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClydeBaneheart Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Passing, scoring, killing the carrier, killing bad guys around the carrier, healing the carrier, etc, should all give points. Passing and scoring should be 'equal.' Though, to prevent farming, you can't get points for passing constantly. Say, 15 second cooldown on the points? Or more if someone else can get better math involved. That way passback fakeouts and such can still be useful. They need to encourage teamwork, because just as often as I get a premade that works as a group and passes with some sort of coordination, I get a gaggle of pubs that think they're all heroes and can solo the team themselves, and then die, while the other team capitalizes on our noobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bnol Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Actually this is fine. The point of Huttball isn't to hold the ball, it's to pass the ball. So encouraging people to pass it would be a good thing... encouraging people to hold on to the ball because they want the points for being ball carrier probably isn't a good idea. Except if you are a Jug/Guard (or even tank assasin) as they are a quality ball carrier. Also, good passes take you out of range of getting the objective points. The reward system should account for assists (with diminishing returns and penalties for interceptions) as well as scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ealthan Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I like the team ladder idea, would be hard to regulate though different people with different play times, some teams might never play each other so how can rankings truely be worked out. There is a lot of scope with it though and a lot could be done with it, its a refreshing take on capture the flag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jezzikah Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 The one thing i would like to see added is a bonus for winning a match with x amount of time left,more time left bigger the bonus. I think this would help a little with premades VS randoms were it's 5-0 and 9+ min of farming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bnol Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 (edited) The one thing i would like to see added is a bonus for winning a match with x amount of time left,more time left bigger the bonus. I think this would help a little with premades VS randoms were it's 5-0 and 9+ min of farming. This, it would help with the afk problem as well, as the premade that is stomping will be encouraged to do a quick win and the pug can just stay in, get whatever medals they can and get some commendations/valor in a quick game. Edited January 27, 2012 by Bnol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrunchyGremlin Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 This, it would help with the afk problem as well, as the premade that is stomping will be encouraged to do a quick win and the pug can just stay in, get whatever medals they can and get some commendations/valor in a quick game. Regressive awards. Not so much good. could add a timer to the amount of time there is with no goal and kill everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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