Biogood Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 http://www.swtorarena.com/statistics/ If this chart is correct, this game is already down 200k active users. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quip Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I'll just wait to see what happens. Analytics this early are going to be flaky at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papazooki Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 (edited) You mean to tell me people played more during winter break / holidays than they do when they have to work / go to school?! MADNESS, MADNESS I SAY! Here's a little clarification from the creator of those charts (it's on the 3rd page): oh, i wanted to give a quick info on this (as I'm the developer of that tool), the generated charts DOES NOT represent users subscriptions. Instead the tool reads http://www.swtor.com/server-status and generate charts for server-loads based on given population field on the page. So basically a total value of 800 (in y axis) for a total of 215 server means = 800 / 215 = 3.7 = ~ Heavy population in average. Where as a value of 600 (in y axis) for a total of 215 server means = 800 / 215 = 2.7 = Standard population. 0 -> offline1 - 2 -> light2 - 3-> standard3 - 4 -> heavy4 - 5 -> very heavy5+ -> full So yet again, the game did not lost active subscribers last two weeks but instead average population of servers dropped down - which is a good thing (meaning less queues if any). In MMO launches, heavy populations are always expected and over time they normalize - which is already the case for SWTOR -- and those charts actually represent that. Update: Can anybody with a post in first page of the thread can paste this explanation? So people can get an understanding of the charts before commenting on the OP's erroneous interpretation of them. Edited January 9, 2012 by Papazooki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erosith Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 good let the cry babies leave in the end there will be less complainers i usualy dont read forums but i got no time to play before my coursesso if there are 200k complainers that left then good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daeborn Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 You do realize that data does not say that right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DNA_Cowboy Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Analytics this early are going to be flaky at best. Couldn't agree more. It's bit early for arm-windmilling and gnashing of teeth, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
talligan Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 (edited) Edit: The author of the tool linked to in the OP posted this explanation a page or two into the discussion. Read this before commenting. oh, i wanted to give a quick info on this (as I'm the developer of that tool), the generated charts DOES NOT represent users subscriptions. Instead the tool reads http://www.swtor.com/server-status and generate charts for server-loads based on given population field on the page. So basically a total value of 800 (in y axis) for a total of 215 server means = 800 / 215 = 3.7 = ~ Heavy population in average. Where as a value of 600 (in y axis) for a total of 215 server means = 800 / 215 = 2.7 = Standard population. 0 -> offline 1 - 2 -> light 2 - 3-> standard 3 - 4 -> heavy 4 - 5 -> very heavy 5+ -> full So yet again, the game did not lost active subscribers last two weeks but instead average population of servers dropped down - which is a good thing (meaning less queues if any). In MMO launches, heavy populations are always expected and over time they normalize - which is already the case for SWTOR -- and those charts actually represent that. Edited January 9, 2012 by talligan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradewindNQ Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 You mean to tell me people played more during winter break / holidays than they do when they have to work / go to school?! MADNESS, MADNESS I SAY! This. It's a measurement of population, not subscriptions. People go to work/school etc. on Mondays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichLather Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 good let the cry babies leave in the end there will be less complainers i usualy dont read forums but i got no time to play before my courses so if there are 200k complainers that left then good You look at them as complainers, Bioware looks at them as paying customers that were let down by there work. You shrug it off as if its a good thing, when in reality sub losses this early are very very bad for the product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimer_Lins Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Why is it the least surprising that total people playing would be down in the first week of January vs the last week of December? They haven't lost 200K subs. A good number of people had to go back to work and have less time to play now that the holidays are over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theborch Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I see that usage dropped during certain times and days but where does it list subscriptions lost? This whole website just shows server pops and say nothing about subscriptions. Trolololol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daeborn Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Couldn't agree more. It's bit early for arm-windmilling and gnashing of teeth, anyway. I could care less either if whiners left but that data the OP linked does not illustrate cancellations of accounts. It just shows most people are back to work/school and server caps are possibly increased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theborch Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 (edited) If you look at the yearly graph the overall graph goes from 550 to 450. So even if that was subscription (Not server population like it really is) the OP is still wrong. Edited January 9, 2012 by theborch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Crueak Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I'm sure the OP isn't so stupid to think that those graphs actually means lost subs? No where does it say that, just show that activity has been down from launch week to now and that is to be expected as it was a holiday season, the game was new now that everyone is back to school, work, life activity is bound to drop. Not everyone spends their life in a mmo from morning to night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dianoia Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 You do realize that data does not say that right? I thought I was the only one who noticed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_MartY Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 What a ridiculous thread. We have to work, dude. In fact, many of us are at work right now. Why do you think we're here instead of playing the game? Come on people, use your reasoning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nytak Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Why is it the least surprising that total people playing would be down in the first week of January vs the last week of December? They haven't lost 200K subs. A good number of people had to go back to work and have less time to play now that the holidays are over. I know... Work sucks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blynks Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I would recommend you take a class in statistics. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sun-Runner Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 http://www.swtorarena.com/statistics/ If this chart is correct, this game is already down 200k active users. Neat. Bookmarked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nautius Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 http://www.swtorarena.com/statistics/ If this chart is correct, this game is already down 200k active users. No, it shows down a net 100K POPULATION. Not subs. Not to mention there is nothing stating what the source data is. I can make graphs from arbitrary data all day. Doesn't make it true. I would make the same argument whether the numbers were going up or down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaurentiusX Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 wow, a WoWite being wrong, unable to comprehend basic statistics, what a shock. (Sarcasm off) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raistlinthewiz Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 (edited) oh, i wanted to give a quick info on this (as I'm the developer of that tool), the generated charts DOES NOT represent users subscriptions. Instead the tool reads http://www.swtor.com/server-status and generate charts for server-loads based on given population field on the page. So basically a total value of 800 (in y axis) for a total of 215 server means = 800 / 215 = 3.7 = ~ Heavy population in average. Where as a value of 600 (in y axis) for a total of 215 server means = 800 / 215 = 2.7 = Standard population. 0 -> offline1 - 2 -> light2 - 3-> standard3 - 4 -> heavy4 - 5 -> very heavy5+ -> full So yet again, the game did not lost active subscribers last two weeks but instead average population of servers dropped down - which is a good thing (meaning less queues if any). In MMO launches, heavy populations are always expected and over time they normalize - which is already the case for SWTOR -- and those charts actually represent that. Update: Can anybody with a post in first page of the thread can paste this explanation? So people can get an understanding of the charts before commenting on the OP's erroneous interpretation of them. Edited January 9, 2012 by raistlinthewiz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theborch Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 oh, i wanted to give a quick info on this (as I'm the developer of that tool), the generated charts DOES NOT represent users subscriptions. Instead the tool reads http://www.swtor.com/server-status and generate charts for server-loads based on given population field on the page. So basically a total value of 800 (in y axis) for a total of 215 server means = 800 / 215 = 3.7 = ~ Heavy population in average. Where as a value of 600 (in y axis) for a total of 215 server means = 800 / 215 = 2.7 = Standard population. 0 -> offline1 - 2 -> light2 - 3-> standard3 - 4 -> heavy4 - 5 -> very heavy5+ -> full So yet again, the game did not lost active subscribers last two weeks but instead average population of servers dropped down - which is a good thing (meaning less queues if any). In MMO launches, heavy populations are always expected and over time they normalize - which is already the case for SWTOR -- and those charts actually represent that. /thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
talligan Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 oh, i wanted to give a quick info on this (as I'm the developer of that tool), the generated charts DOES NOT represent users subscriptions. Instead the tool reads http://www.swtor.com/server-status and generate charts for server-loads based on given population field on the page. So basically a total value of 800 (in y axis) for a total of 215 server means = 800 / 215 = 3.7 = ~ Heavy population in average. Where as a value of 600 (in y axis) for a total of 215 server means = 800 / 215 = 2.7 = Standard population. 0 -> offline1 - 2 -> light2 - 3-> standard3 - 4 -> heavy4 - 5 -> very heavy5+ -> full So yet again, the game did not lost active subscribers last two weeks but instead average population of servers dropped down - which is a good thing (meaning less queues if any). In MMO launches, heavy populations are always expected and over time they normalize - which is already the case for SWTOR -- and those charts actually represent that. Ahhh that makes sense. Thanks for the clarification! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makade Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 http://www.swtorarena.com/statistics/ If this chart is correct, this game is already down 200k active users. The game has been out a few weeks. Just stop this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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